IF they made a AGP version ,would you buy it ??? Do you think its time or just to late.,,for so much AGP power ??? Do you think your AGP rig could handle 8800 power ??? This is just a dream ,, But is this what we want / need ??? Tell the world (NVIDIA) what you want ,, they are listening !!!!
Please. Nvidia would never make an 8800GTX AGP card. It would prove entirely too costly for production of such a card with a now limited market. They MIGHT offer one more great midrange card to finally help close the AGP chapter, but the last thing I would expect would be a high end AGP card offered again. They didn't even offer this with the 7 series, and almost didn't make an AGP 7600GT, yet Leadtek (and a couple others I think finally did the same) decided to make an AGP 7600GT. All of this and 95% of AGP systems would bottleneck a G80 anyway. Let alone I believe the AGP bus width might not support the full bandwidth the G80 is capable of.
Bottleneck it may ,, BUT it would still be the best !! Everything would run faster and score higher X10 ,don't forget about that too... Overall it would be great... I wish I could buy one NOW...
There's no question whether there would be bottlenecks or not. It's rather simple as its eminent. And I'm assuming you mean an 8800GTX would the best for an AGP system? In theory I suppose it would be, but its almost pointless to even dream of such a configuration. It simply won't exist.
I personally think there wouldn't be a bottleneck, the AGP lane might not have enough bandwith, but it would run fine. There are core2 duo mobos with AGP slots (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131029), pointless it may sound but an 8800GTX on an AGP interface doesn't sound unreal. And because something cant possibly come to being, is it not okay to at least dream that it could happen? You dont need to be so critical of this idea, its merly a thought and it helps spark discussion. Wheter or not you want to make the discussion positive or not is up to you.
ATI pushed out a crapy AGP x1950pro to make $$$ Now its NVIDIA's turn to blow ATI away with a AGP 8800 Its just good sports-man-ship
Also the whole deal about the AGP8x crippling the 8800GTX is not 100%. You start turning on those image quality features like high res and high aa/af and you wont notice it.
You can't base your findings of the X1950 on your system. You were obviously bottlenecking the card. It simply couldn't stretch its legs. Show me a conroe with an X1950 Pro AGP and then you can talk the X1950 Pro down.
it is 100% , what does turning the res and AA/AF have to do with data bandwidth between the card and slot , nothing ??? the slot wouldnt provide enough bandwidth for the card to get all its data through , its like puting a 8800GTX in a pci-express X4 slot , it wont physically work , have you seen how many people have complained about compatability issues with pci-express X8 slots and bad performance because of bandwidth , it wont happen , but you can dream if you want
Not sure what the strange loyalty to AGP is with some peeps. IF, they did make it, it would be insanely expensive, and to buy one would just be dumb, considering for the amount of money you would spend on it you could no doubt upgrade your entire system to very decent pci-e rig. which would then open up your options for the future when buying new GPU's. Also i think you should look towards others companies to hear your cries and not Nvidia themselves (ie. Gainward etc etc). But of course, it is possible, we shall see.
Copey, where do you see this? And how much of a hit is it? I cant imagine it being more than a 10% hit. Turning the res and aa/af up would decrease the difference between the hit of the bandwith of the agp8x and the pci-e 16. Thats where I'm getting at. The difference wouldn't be as noticeable as the quality settings increased. In example (theory): Agp 8x 1024x768: say you get 50 fps in oblivion outside, maxed out, no aa/af. Pci-E 16 1024x768: say you get 60 fps in oblivion outside, maxed out, no aa/af. Marginal difference, 10 fps Agp 8x 2560x1200: 25 fps in oblivion maxed out, 16xaf pcie-e 2560x1200: 30 fps in oblivion maxed out, 16xaf marginal difference 5fps *****Note, the above is a theory and not proven to be true. Numbers above may not be true for a what is actually true of the 8800GTX's performance at the resolution, nor am I sure if that resolution is correct.
guruboy u seem very desperate for an 8800 ?! and AGP is old news, the money you would spend on an 8800 agp u could get urself a nice new pci-e mobo and maybe even cpu =/
The lower FPS (AGP vs PCI X) is not the point !! Its the FPS GAINED from the AGP 8800 upgrade !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!