Which NVidia AGP card [£100]?

Morlock

I am looking to upgrade, my FX5200 is getting a bit tired!

I am looking to spend around £100[UK] or a tad more and usually buy from Microdirect. They have quite limited choice as everything seems to be PCI-E.

I mostly play BFV/BF2 and the POE/POE2 mods and do some video editing.

So, of the two that seem to fit my budget, which is the better card?:

XFX GeForce 7300GT 256MB, DDR2, VGA + DVI Retail

BFG GeForce 7600GS OC 512MB DDR2 AGP 8x Dual DVI

http://www.microdirect.co.uk/product...x?GroupID=1263

Is it worth paying an extra bit for the BFG? Are BFG rubbish/good, I really am out of the loop on this one, or are there any other cards that folks recommend for around £100?

Spoton is also a possibility to buy from:

http://www.spotonuk.com/shop~Cat~Vid...hics+Cards.htm

Thanks all.

vidra · 11-11-2006, 15:15 | posts: 1,764 | Location: Novi Sad, Serbia | User is Offline

The 7600 is a great value for cash card. If you can afford it, though, you should seriously consider the 7600GT as it is a far cry from the GS. You should not even consider anything with a 7300 prefix.

Ankit kukreti · 11-11-2006, 19:04 | posts: 1,503 | Location: India | User is Offline

Well. 7600GS would be nice upgrade from fx 5200

. Not sure of prices but any geforce 7 would be BIG.

FlawleZ · 11-11-2006, 21:34 | posts: 3,797 | Location: San Antonio | User is Offline

Quote:

Originally Posted by vidra

The 7600 is a great value for cash card. If you can afford it, though, you should seriously consider the 7600GT as it is a far cry from the GS. You should not even consider anything with a 7300 prefix.

False. The 7300GT DDR3 is a very fast card for the money. In fact, its a great card to pit against the 7600GT.

FlawleZ · 11-11-2006, 21:35 | posts: 3,797 | Location: San Antonio | User is Offline

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morlock

I am looking to upgrade, my FX5200 is getting a bit tired!

I am looking to spend around £100[UK] or a tad more and usually buy from Microdirect. They have quite limited choice as everything seems to be PCI-E.

I mostly play BFV/BF2 and the POE/POE2 mods and do some video editing.

So, of the two that seem to fit my budget, which is the better card?:

XFX GeForce 7300GT 256MB, DDR2, VGA + DVI Retail

BFG GeForce 7600GS OC 512MB DDR2 AGP 8x Dual DVI

http://www.microdirect.co.uk/product...x?GroupID=1263

Is it worth paying an extra bit for the BFG? Are BFG rubbish/good, I really am out of the loop on this one, or are there any other cards that folks recommend for around £100?

Spoton is also a possibility to buy from:

http://www.spotonuk.com/shop~Cat~Vid...hics+Cards.htm

Thanks all.

Whatever you can afford in the 7 series will crush anything your 5200 ever even thought of putting out. There will be no comparison.

irfdude · 11-11-2006, 21:40 | posts: 250 | Location: Stevange, UK | User is Offline

i would agree avoid the 73xx, have a look here for more AGP choice and slightly cheaper prices
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...=452&OrderBy=4

they have a lot more choice and are very good, personally used them a couple of times as their prices seem to beat a lot of other sites
I would recommend looking at fleabay. Thats where I picked up a 6800gs for only 45 quid a real bargain and worth at least twice that

smnoamls · **Memory**: 4gb OCZ 4-4-4-12

"False. The 7300GT DDR3 is a very fast card for the money. In fact, its a great card to pit against the 7600GT"

So so true

look at these benchmarks
http://www.trustedreviews.com/articl...ge=7225&head=0

The 7300 gt is probably the best value performer out there. it blows most 6800 out the the waters, and thats saying something.

If you cant spare a bob or two more, get a good ddr3 7300gt and you'll have an excellent bf2 experience. Dont go for the biggest and baddest automatically.

Ankit kukreti · 11-11-2006, 22:50 | posts: 1,503 | Location: India | User is Offline

WOW

I din't know 7300GT was that good. But it is not in agp I think

.

Infested Nexus · 11-12-2006, 01:31 | posts: 4,782 | Location: 909 | User is Offline

256MB Palit 7600GS, AGP, Mem 800MHz, GPU 400MHz, 12 Pipes, D-Sub/Dual Link DVI-I/S-Video - £77.27 Inc VAT
Connect3d X850 Pro 256MB GDDR3 DVI VIVO AGP - £108.90 Inc VAT (X850 Pro MOD to X850XT/XT PE)
Club3D GeForce 7600GT 256MB, GDDR3, AGP, DVI/Tv-Out, Retail - £110.00 Inc VAT

patatdrolleke83 · 11-12-2006, 01:42 | posts: 4 | User is Offline

that's weird
so 7300 DDR3 is faster than the 7600 DDR2?
Why?
Just because of the DDR3?

chispy

In my opinion go for the bfg 7600 as they have a lifetime warranty. Any of the 7xxx series card will do beter than your current gpu like the guys posting before me. Good luck bro ;-)

FlawleZ · 11-12-2006, 08:26 | posts: 3,797 | Location: San Antonio | User is Offline

Quote:

Originally Posted by patatdrolleke83

that's weird
so 7300 DDR3 is faster than the 7600 DDR2?
Why?
Just because of the DDR3?

In a lot of cases, yes the 7300GT DDR3 will be faster than the 7600 GS DDR2. The difference will close at higher resolutions, but the 7300GT DDR3 will be faster in almost every case.

Willy Boy · 11-14-2006, 05:26 | posts: 363 | Location: UK | User is Offline

Hi m8 see your in Uk (£100) the range of EVGA gr /crds sold in uk are up to 10 yrs warranty "should be long enuff " see link

http://www.beast-pc.com/cat_geforce_nvidia_76007300.cfm

They seem to get good write ups in mags etc ...

John Dolan · *Last edited by John Dolan; 11-14-2006 at 05:41.*

Im in the uk also i get my gear from here http://www.overclockers.co.uk/produc...d=56&subid=411 they have a 7600gt there for not much more than your budget.As for the 7300 this is what toms hardware think http://tomshardware.co.uk/2006/07/17..._uk/page2.html

Solinari · 11-14-2006, 05:50 | posts: 2,862 | User is Offline

I have a BFG card and they are a good brand, however i think eVGA are better. They allow you to overclock the card without voiding the warranty, as well as changing the cooler if you wish. I believe the European warranty differs from the US warranty, but i am sure it still covers overclocking, as long as there is no physical damage caused as a result.

I see you have a socket A CPU, otherwise i would of recommended you upgrade your motherboard and get a PCI-e video card. If at all possible, save up another £100 and get an Athlon 64 939 3700 (OEM) and something like an Asus A8N-SLI SE, that would cost just over £100 i think. You could even go for a cheaper Athlon 64 3000 and upgrade it later. I think this way your PC would last at least 18 months and probably more. The reason i say this is because DX 10 is here, Vista and DX 10 games will soon follow and i seriously doubt there will be reasonably price DX 10 AGP cards if at all.

You could probably go down the AM2 route for the same price as 939, however this will require DDR2 RAM which will cost even more. Besides, from all the reviews i have seen DDR2 and AM2 doesn't offer a great performance boost compared to 939, that being said i am sure this will change in time.

getsuga12 · 11-14-2006, 06:53 | posts: 3,118 | User is Offline

there are no 7300GT DDR3 models for AGP yet... Morlock's best option is either a 7600GS or a 7600GT.

Estima8tor · 11-14-2006, 07:03 | posts: 2,251 | Location: Virginia, USA | User is Offline

Quote:

Originally Posted by getsuga12

there are no 7300GT DDR3 models for AGP yet... Morlock's best option is either a 7600GS or a 7600GT.

Thats what I thought to but here it is -

http://www.beast-pc.com/pd_256mb_xfx_7300gt.cfm

It has the DDR2 memory though.

Any of those cards that Willy Boy linked to should be a huge improvement over the 5200.

I can't believe Morlock was even able to play BF2 on a 5200.

getsuga12 · 11-14-2006, 07:12 | posts: 3,118 | User is Offline

like i said, "no DDR3 for AGP yet".

And if anybody says "Getsuga, why do you have a 7300GT? It sux!" like a n00b, all i gotta say is "stfu"

optimo · *Last edited by optimo; 11-15-2006 at 10:05.*

Hi Guys,

Which is faster more pipes?

Leadtek GeForce 7800 GS 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/DVI (AGP) - Retail Leadtek GeForce 7800 GS 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/DVI (AGP) - Retail
375MHz Core, 256MB 1200MHz GDDR3 Memory, 16 Pixel Pipelines, 2yr Warranty

or faster clock speeds?

Leadtek GeForce 7600 GT 256MB GDDR3 HDTV/DVI (AGP) - Retail
560MHz Core, 256MB 1400MHz GDDR3 Memory, 12 Pixel Pipelines, 2yr Warranty.

Thanks

Morlock · 11-17-2006, 21:55 | posts: 41 | Location: UK | User is Offline

Quote:

Originally Posted by vidra

If you can afford it, though, you should seriously consider the 7600GT as it is a far cry from the GS.

What is the difference between GS and GT, is the GT really that much better?

Morlock · 11-17-2006, 21:59 | posts: 41 | Location: UK | User is Offline

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estima8tor

I can't believe Morlock was even able to play BF2 on a 5200.

Yep! All settings at low, quite smooth too, but difficult to tell who is friendly or foe as at a slight distance all 3D models look black.

FlawleZ · 11-17-2006, 22:06 | posts: 3,797 | Location: San Antonio | User is Offline

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morlock

What is the difference between GS and GT, is the GT really that much better?

The GT is MUCH faster. Even than the DDR2 256MB 7600GS. An overclocked 7600GT rivals 7800GS and beats them in most cases.

Except for the uber rare Gainward 7800GS+, the 7600GT is really the best card you can get for AGP.

Willy Boy · 11-18-2006, 07:16 | posts: 363 | Location: UK | User is Offline

Here's an excellent review of a 7600GS agp card

http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=a...ead&arc_id=116

chrismeyer · 11-18-2006, 08:47 | posts: 1,145 | Location: TR N.J | User is Offline

and the nice thing about the 7300's is that u can get into sli cheap too. a friend of mine has 2 7300gt's in sli both with 256 gddr3 and it runs almost every game maxed out. and he paid like $180 total for both u cant beat that

Willy Boy · 11-18-2006, 09:12 | posts: 363 | Location: UK | User is Offline

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrismeyer

and the nice thing about the 7300's is that u can get into sli cheap too. a friend of mine has 2 7300gt's in sli both with 256 gddr3 and it runs almost every game maxed out. and he paid like $180 total for both u cant beat that

ERM! he has a ABit KD-7 AGP type mobo m8 pretty tricky slotting those 2 7300gts into that agp slot ?