AGP tab instead of NVStrap

In my low level system tweaks menu I have two tabs: 'Overclocking', and 'AGP'.

I read the FAQ and it says that my configuration may not allow the use of the NVStrap driver if it doesn't appear, but it doesn't say what to do otherwise. Can I still softquadro? Can I install it manually?

My config is pretty standard:

Windows XP Pro
Geforce 4 Ti 4400 AGP (softquadro target)
NVidia Riva TNT PCI (boots to, not sure why though)


Just a little confused

[Unwinder]

Originally posted by scott212
In my low level system tweaks menu I have two tabs: 'Overclocking', and 'AGP'.

I read the FAQ and it says that my configuration may not allow the use of the NVStrap driver if it doesn't appear, but it doesn't say what to do otherwise. Can I still softquadro? Can I install it manually?

My config is pretty standard:

Windows XP Pro
Geforce 4 Ti 4400 AGP (softquadro target)
NVidia Riva TNT PCI (boots to, not sure why though)


Just a little confused

Quote from RivaTuner's documentation, known issues:

NVStrap driver supports the primary NVIDIA display adapters only.

Quote from RivaTuner's documentation, FAQ:

Q: I cannot find the 'NVStrap driver' tab in the 'Low level system tweaks' dialog. Any clues?

A: RivaTuner hides this tab if the NVStrap.sys driver cannot be used on your system. The 'NVStrap driver' tab presence depends on the following conditions:



1. NVStrap.sys file must exist in RivaTuner's Tools\NVStrap folder.

2. The primary NVIDIA GeForce256 or higher display adapter must be selected as a tweak target in the main RivaTuner's tab. NVStrap driver configures your VGA adapter before loading OS kernel and at that time only the primary VGA adapter is programmable. You will not be able to use the NVStrap driver if your system boots on non-NVIDIA VGA adapter.

Yeah man - I read that, I even quoted it in my entry. Obviously since my Geforce 4 is an AGP card it IS the primary. Even if it's not, the other card would fit the specs anyways. It should work regardless.

And oh yeah, thanks for quoting the FAQ. That didn't tell me anything I didn't already mention. If you can't use the NVStrap driver, CAN YOU STILL SOFTQUADRO? Your precious FAQ doesn't answer that. Is this combination out of luck?

I really do appreciate what you've done with this site and I'm sure your tired of people asking questions about it, but don't put up a support forum if your just going to be sarcastic. Maybe you should stop offering help if you don't enjoy doing it anymore.

Thanks Anyways,

Scott

Where is this FAQ..?

Jenny..

[boogieman]

You can find this info in RT's built-in documentation (Features section). It's located in RT's folder in .\Doc\ReadMe.html

THX..

Jenny..

[Kakaru2]

Originally posted by scott212

Windows XP Pro
Geforce 4 Ti 4400 AGP (softquadro target)
NVidia Riva TNT PCI (boots to, not sure why though)

Yeah man - I read that, I even quoted it in my entry. Obviously since my Geforce 4 is an AGP card it IS the primary. Even if it's not, the other card would fit the specs anyways. It should work regardless.
Scott

First, read again.

1. NVStrap.sys file must exist in RivaTuner's Tools\NVStrap folder.
2. The primary NVIDIA GeForce256 or higher display adapter must be selected.

RivaTNT is nv4, GF2 is nv 10.

Second, let me tell you why it boots to Riva TNT - because in BIOS you have set the folowing option to first use PCI, instead of AGP.

from http://www.rojakpot.com
Init Display First

Common Options : AGP, PCI

Details

Although the AGP bus was designed exclusively for the graphics subsystem, some users still have to use PCI graphics cards for multi-monitor support. This is because there can be only one AGP port! So, if you want to use multiple monitors. you must either get an AGP card that provides multi-monitor support or use PCI graphics cards.

For those who upgraded from a PCI graphics card to an AGP one, it's certainly enticing to use the old PCI graphics card to support a second monitor. The PCI card would certainly do the job just fine as it merely sends display data to the second monitor. You don't need a powerful graphics card to run the second monitor as Microsoft Windows 2000/XP does not support 3D graphics acceleration on the second monitor.

In such cases of an AGP graphics card working in tandem with a PCI graphics card, the BIOS has to determine which graphics card is the primary graphics card. Naturally, the default would be the AGP graphics card since in most cases, it would be the faster card.

However, a BIOS switch that allows you to manually select the graphics card to boot the system with is required. This is particularly important if you have AGP and PCI graphics cards but only one monitor. There's where the Init Display First feature comes in. It allows you to select whether to boot the system using the AGP graphics card or the PCI graphics card.

If you are only using a single graphics card, then the BIOS will detect it as such and boot it up, irrespective of what you set the feature to. However, there may be a slight reduction in initialization time if you set this feature to its proper setting. For example, if you only use an AGP graphics card, then setting Init Display First to AGP may speed up your system's booting-up process.

Therefore, if you are only using a single graphics card, it is recommended that you set the Init Display First feature to the proper setting for your system (AGP for a single AGP card and PCI for a single PCI card). But if you are using multiple graphics cards, it's up to you which card you want to use as your primary display card. It is recommended that you select the fastest graphics card as the primary display card.

And third, if you made it so far with the reading: Calm down. The irritating people on this forum are not the people that ask questions but those that know sh*t but they pretend to know everything.
And sadly, you are a brave exponent of this category.