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Review: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X
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Thumbs up Review: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X - 08-10-2017, 13:58 | posts: 29,510 | Location: Guru3D testlab

In this article we review the sixteen core and 32 threaded Ryzen Threadripper 1950X. It is the flagship processor and product that will get a 3.4 GHz base frequency with the ability to precision boost...

Review: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X
   
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Default 08-10-2017, 14:04 | posts: 151 | Location: Nederlanden

Hurray !
Now that I've posted in the forum... time to read the article as well ^.^

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HOLY F*** !!

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I think the GPU have bottleneck the system. It should be use three GTX 1080 TI in SLI
   
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Default 08-10-2017, 14:18 | posts: 717 | Location: Norway

Excellent review as always HH!

That 1950x looks tasty, but i'm not that into content creation so might be a bit overkill for me. Will wait for the 1900x review which i think is more suitable for me.
   
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Default 08-10-2017, 14:19 | posts: 7,370 | Location: Wolverhampton/United Kingdom

intel offices right now....

   
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intel offices right now....

LOOOOOOOOL Exactly that !!
   
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Default 08-10-2017, 14:22 | posts: 58

Most powerful desktop processor on the planet....3 years ago, who would have thought AMD would launch it in 2017??? Certainly not Intel!!
   
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Rip intel


   
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Default 08-10-2017, 14:32 | posts: 8,417 | Location: FLA,USA

Well gaming is same as AM4 so increased bandwidth did not help with that slight bottleneck. Still phenomenal CPU. RIP Intel HEDT.
   
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Default 08-10-2017, 14:41 | posts: 101 | Location: Somewhere on this planet

very impressive even the single core performance i thought it will be lower than intel competitive but @ 4Ghz it's matching with every intel CPU single core performance .
AMD done it right this time
   
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Default 08-10-2017, 14:44 | posts: 10,992 | Location: Terra Firma

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Well gaming is same as AM4 so increased bandwidth did not help with that slight bottleneck. Still phenomenal CPU. RIP Intel HEDT.
What's weird is Anandtech's Rocket League results:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11697/...920x-review/17

It's nearly double Ryzen. This is a game a lot of Ryzen w/Nvidia card owners have a problem with too - my friend constantly complains about stuttering/weirdness. I think the issue is with Nvidia's drivers but it's weird that it only effects Ryzen and not Threadripper, even when Threadripper is running in UMA mode.

Overall AMD seems to hit it out of the park here.
   
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So, basically, for $1000, if you go AMD instead of Intel, you can get a much, much faster processor, or for $200 less, you can still get a decently faster processor then going Intel.

Yup.

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What's weird is Anandtech's Rocket League results:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11697/...920x-review/17

It's nearly double Ryzen. This is a game a lot of Ryzen w/Nvidia card owners have a problem with too - my friend constantly complains about stuttering/weirdness. I think the issue is with Nvidia's drivers but it's weird that it only effects Ryzen and not Threadripper, even when Threadripper is running in UMA mode.

Overall AMD seems to hit it out of the park here.
So you're saying your friend has an nvidia GPU and ryzen CPU and is getting stuttering? I'd wager it has nothing to do with either of them, at least by themselves. Maybe the specific GPU he is using, possibly. I state this, simply because i play rocket league, and have never had stuttering...

As to anandtech, i'd more wonder if rocket league had an update between their tests of the Ryzen and Threadripper.

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Wow, its glorious

Great review HH
   
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Awesome performer, such great news. Thanks for the review Hilbert! As always.
   
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What's weird is Anandtech's Rocket League results:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11697/...920x-review/17

It's nearly double Ryzen. This is a game a lot of Ryzen w/Nvidia card owners have a problem with too - my friend constantly complains about stuttering/weirdness. I think the issue is with Nvidia's drivers but it's weird that it only effects Ryzen and not Threadripper, even when Threadripper is running in UMA mode.

Overall AMD seems to hit it out of the park here.
The real funny thing in that bench in the Fiji and Polaris results. AMD is sabotaging AMD with their drivers!!!!!!! Break out the pitchforks.
   
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Default 08-10-2017, 14:52 | posts: 265

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So, basically, for $1000, if you go AMD instead of Intel, you can get a much, much faster processor, or for $200 less, you can still get a decently faster processor then going Intel.

Yup.



So you're saying your friend has an nvidia GPU and ryzen CPU and is getting stuttering? I'd wager it has nothing to do with either of them, at least by themselves. Maybe the specific GPU he is using, possibly. I state this, simply because i play rocket league, and have never had stuttering...

As to anandtech, i'd more wonder if rocket league had an update between their tests of the Ryzen and Threadripper.
Yeah super weird, it's probably him, probably totally unrelated to these:

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph11697/89857.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph11697/89859.png

If the average FPS is 132 and it dips down to 70, what's that gonna feel like?
   
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Yeah super weird, it's probably him, probably totally unrelated to these:

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph11697/89857.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph11697/89859.png

If the average FPS is 132 and it dips down to 70, what's that gonna feel like?
Not a whole lot.

Though i'm confused where you came up with specifically 132 and 70.

Again, as i said, i'd wonder if rocket league had an update since them, or nvidia drivers.

If it was a universal issue, again: I'd feel the issue, i play rocket league, and i notice stuttering, as it's possibly the most annoying thing ever.

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So you're saying your friend has an nvidia GPU and ryzen CPU and is getting stuttering? I'd wager it has nothing to do with either of them, at least by themselves. Maybe the specific GPU he is using, possibly. I state this, simply because i play rocket league, and have never had stuttering...

As to anandtech, i'd more wonder if rocket league had an update between their tests of the Ryzen and Threadripper.
He has a 1080 and 1700x. I know his BIOS is updated, I don't know how Anandtech tested, if they retested Ryzen with newer BIOS's or whatnot. But I know the issue is fairly widespread, I'm subbed to the rocketleague sub and I see people post about it every now in then looking for solutions - most people recommend turning off Nvidia's threaded optimization.

Rocket League in general seems to have some weird issues related to FPS though, especially on 144hz monitors it would seem. The netcode rate is supposedly tied to your framerate - so large swings in framerate cause more excessive stuttering then in other games where that isn't the case.
   
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most people recommend turning off Nvidia's threaded optimization.
I wonder if i have that disabled...

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especially on 144hz monitors it would seem.
I do have that, but i also have gsync, who knows if its that's a factor either.
   
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Default 08-10-2017, 15:01 | posts: 6,348 | Location: Romania

Awesome review and awesome platform. Hats down to AMD, if I were to make a build now it would be X399 TR no doubt!
   
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I'm a little confused - despite that the latency SHOULD be worse than AM4 CPUs (more cores, more CCXs, more memory channels, bigger cache, etc resulting in slower synchronization) somehow, TR manages to outpace AM4 in latency-sensitive tasks like games. And then there are the lower core voltages. Not sure what AMD did but somehow they managed to squeeze a noteworthy amount of performance out of the same architecture.

I wonder if the power tables can be modified to help improve idle power consumption. I agree that ~100W is pretty high for idle.

I also appreciate Hilbert stressing who the target demographic is. Should hopefully be a good reality check for some people.

It's a bit weird seeing an AMD product get the "Top Pick" award.

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Text is repeated on the Vegas page:
"We added a new software title to the benchmark suit, Magix Vegas Pro. This professional video editing software Vegas Pro is a video editing software package for non-linear editing. Originally developed as an audio editor, it eventually developed into an NLE for video and audio from version 2.0. Originally developed as an audio editor, it eventually developed into an NLE for video and audio from version 2.0."

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I'm a little confused - despite that the latency SHOULD be worse than AM4 CPUs (more cores, more CCXs, more memory channels, bigger cache, etc resulting in slower synchronization) somehow, TR manages to outpace AM4 in latency-sensitive tasks like games. And then there are the lower core voltages. Not sure what AMD did but somehow they managed to squeeze a noteworthy amount of performance out of effectively the same architecture.

I wonder if the power tables can be modified to help improve idle power consumption. I agree that ~100W is pretty high for idle.

I also appreciate Hilbert stressing who the target demographic is. Should hopefully be a good reality check for some people.

It's a bit weird seeing an AMD product get the "Top Pick" award.
Better silicon? I believe AMD said that Epyc and TR were getting the best of it.
   
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Default 08-10-2017, 15:08 | posts: 335 | Location: Portugal

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intel offices right now....

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Best thing I've seen today Then I saw the benchmarks
RIP Intel 1968-2017

PS: I loved the new IPC/Single thread test at 3.5Ghz HH, thanks for your hard work!

Late Edit: I'd love to see what people have to say now about crap Tomb Raider performance...

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Am i crazy, or am i not able to see the results of thermals? what page are they on?
   
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Am i crazy, or am i not able to see the results of thermals? what page are they on?
It's merged with power consumption:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages..._review,8.html
   
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