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Ryzen 3 1300X $129, 1200 $109 Exc VAT
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Default Ryzen 3 1300X $129, 1200 $109 Exc VAT - 07-14-2017, 07:42 | posts: 29,282 | Location: Guru3D testlab

In the aftermath of yesterdays Threadripper news, you'd almost forget that AMD also announced its budget Ryzen 3 series processors. Quad-core procs now become entry level folks! One thing has been mi...

Ryzen 3 1300X $129, 1200 $109 Exc VAT
   
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Default 07-14-2017, 07:58 | posts: 2,817 | Location: Ibaraki, Japan

I would love to see benchmark of these.


   
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Great for office PC
   
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Yep, good little chips for budget OEM machines but anyone buying one for a gaming rig would be wasting their time really, as without the benefit of SMT, Ryzens are a very mediocre performing CPU.
   
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Default 07-14-2017, 08:47 | posts: 2,817 | Location: Ibaraki, Japan

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Yep, good little chips for budget OEM machines but anyone buying one for a gaming rig would be wasting their time really, as without the benefit of SMT, Ryzens are a very mediocre performing CPU.
4 + 0 > 2 + 2

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Yep, good little chips for budget OEM machines but anyone buying one for a gaming rig would be wasting their time really, as without the benefit of SMT, Ryzens are a very mediocre performing CPU.
Didn't some people find that with SMT off sometimes ryzen actually ran better in some games... unless that got fixed/changed
   
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Default 07-14-2017, 09:23 | posts: 80

Unfortunately the budget crown still belongs to Intel:
G4560 2 core 4 thread 3.5GHz, Lower TDP, Integrated GPU (really important for every office or budget PC) and 40-50$ cheaper.
   
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Default 07-14-2017, 09:42 | posts: 61 | Location: Netherlands

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Yep, good little chips for budget OEM machines but anyone buying one for a gaming rig would be wasting their time really, as without the benefit of SMT, Ryzens are a very mediocre performing CPU.
What? This is perfect for a budget and even midrange gaming PC.
This is a lot better choice than any of Intel's i5 chips for a midrange PC considering it costs about half of those chips. Only for highend PC's would the i5-7600k be worth considering if you don't want to pay ~$100 extra for the i7-7700k.

And, as was said before: 4C/4T is a lot better than 2C/4T, so I'd take this over an i3 any time. It's priced similarly and will have much better performance overall, while having similar performance in games (for those who use it for that).
   
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Imagine how bad i3 willl look like vs R3
   
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Default 07-14-2017, 09:48 | posts: 156 | Location: Greece

yes i would take 4c 4t always over a 2c 4t cpu
   
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Imagine how bad i3 willl look like vs R3
I think there were news of Intel reducing production of Pentium CPUs to raise demand for i3.

Not gonna happen with R3. Intel actually have to boost Pentium production not to lose customers to R3.


   
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2C desktop CPU is an obsolete idea already. It's a miracle Intel has been able to drag that horse skeleton along for so long.
   
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2C desktop CPU is an obsolete idea already. It's a miracle Intel has been able to drag that horse skeleton along for so long.
And here I am sitting in my office with Pentium G620.
I'd say 2 cores is enough to write some code, send emails and use some office tools.

Even with 2 cores, my PC hangs up cause of slow HDD reads/write and I rarely see CPU being 100% utilized.
Maybe once ALL PCs ditch HDD and switch to SSD, we will see more bottlenecks on 2 cores CPU.

edit: And it's not Intel who dragging it, it's always consumers. Consumers with low need, it is.



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Default 07-14-2017, 11:09 | posts: 309 | Location: Portugal

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And here I am sitting in my office with Pentium G620.
I'd say 2 cores is enough to write some code, send emails and use some office tools.

Even with 2 cores, my PC hangs up cause of slow HDD reads/write and I rarely see CPU being 100% utilized.
Maybe once ALL PCs ditch HDD and switch to SSD, we will see more bottlenecks on 2 cores CPU.

edit: And it's not Intel who dragging it, it's always consumers. Consumers with low budget, it is.
Fixed that for you.
   
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I wonder if the 1300X @ $129 is faster than my 2600?
   
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Default 07-14-2017, 12:08 | posts: 2,817 | Location: Ibaraki, Japan

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Fixed that for you.
wrong, with more demand for power the budget will raise.

Dont narrow your brain to gamers and content producers.


   
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Default 07-14-2017, 12:10 | posts: 92

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> "Ryzen 3 1300X to cost $129 and the 1200 just $109 (Exc VAT)"

Article
> "Over ar reddit a user has obtained the pricing info and for Ryzen 3"
> "The reddit post however is unconfirmed"

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to modern journalism
   
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Default 07-14-2017, 12:11 | posts: 2,817 | Location: Ibaraki, Japan

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I wonder if the 1300X @ $129 is faster than my 2600?
2600k is a bit faster than ryzen 1400


   
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Default 07-14-2017, 12:29 | posts: 6,147 | Location: USA

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Unfortunately the budget crown still belongs to Intel:
G4560 2 core 4 thread 3.5GHz, Lower TDP, Integrated GPU (really important for every office or budget PC) and 40-50$ cheaper.
....2 cores, and the IPC of that processor is much lower then the IPC of the i5/i7 variants.

And you're comparing an APU, to a CPU. If you're going to compare an APU, then you'll need to wait for AMDs Ryzen APUs.
   
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And here I am sitting in my office with Pentium G620.
I'd say 2 cores is enough to write some code, send emails and use some office tools.

Even with 2 cores, my PC hangs up cause of slow HDD reads/write and I rarely see CPU being 100% utilized.
Maybe once ALL PCs ditch HDD and switch to SSD, we will see more bottlenecks on 2 cores CPU.

edit: And it's not Intel who dragging it, it's always consumers. Consumers with low need, it is.
I use modern vPro 2C/4T with SSD. Doing analysis is nightmare. Starting 2 qemu-kvm virtuals is suicide.

Time when intel offered 4C/8T was much better. I mean, work notebook costs $2000 and I consider it trash.
   
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Great for office PC
They would be great if they had a iGPU, without they are almost useless because OEMs have to add a dGPU that adds to the total cost. So until AMD releases their Ryzen APUs, offices will continue to rely solely on Intel CPUs...

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2C desktop CPU is an obsolete idea already. It's a miracle Intel has been able to drag that horse skeleton along for so long.
CPUs with 2 cores are more than enough for the average user. Unless people are into some serious gaming or some powerfull professional software there´s no need for more than 2 cores.
   
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They would be great if they had a iGPU, without they are almost useless because OEMs have to add a dGPU that adds to the total cost. So until AMD releases their Ryzen APUs, offices will continue to rely solely on Intel CPUs...



CPUs with 2 cores are more than enough for the average user. Unless people are into some serious gaming or some powerfull professional software there´s no need for more than 2 cores.
It would be true in time before even web browsers got threaded tabs.
Now, you can have CPU demanding stuff on multiple tabs and choke 2C without even trying.

And yes, no iGP, no fun for basic workstations.
   
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Ryzen 3 1300X vs FX 8120???
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Default Ryzen 3 1300X vs FX 8120??? - 07-14-2017, 14:15 | posts: 3 | Location: Waterford, MI, USA

Ryzen 3 1300X vs FX 8120??? Which would be better for a mix of gaming and light video editing? (I currently have an FX 8120)

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CPUs with 2 cores are more than enough for the average user. Unless people are into some serious gaming or some powerfull professional software there´s no need for more than 2 cores.
I'm sorry but i don't understand why people state this.

The most COMMON issue among people who know NOTHING about computers is: Their computer, brand new, is slow, takes forever to load items, and hangs, even when they have an SSD.

My wifes laptop has a relatively new, i7, dual-core processor in it. It has an SSD in it as well, and 8GB of DDR3 ram. It boots up slow, applies patches to the OS slow, runs programs slow, hangs whenever a program decides it needs a whole core for a few seconds, etc. - It's not a horrible experience, but it's not a fluid uninterrupted experience, and my wife, who is by far not into technology (likes to use them, hates when they don't do what she expects them to do, and doesn't understand why it is that happens, etc.) hates it and wants a new laptop, because her computer, with a ryzen 1600 in it and a regular HDD (no SSD), does not have any of those issues. And her laptop has a clean OS on it (not the one provided by the manufacturer, no bloated BS)

So does she NEED 6 cores? does she NEED more then 2 cores? Technically, none of us NEED any of it. The better question is would she get USE out of more then 2 cores, even though she's not a heavy PC user? The answer to that is yes, and it seems people use "need" for "would get use out of", and if that's what you're using "need" as, then i don't get it.

There is just WAY too many processes in a modern computer, even just opening up your web browser with everything else your computer is doing, to say more then 2 cores is not beneficial to ANYONES experience.
   
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Which would be better for a mix of gaming and light video editing?
Ryzen 1600. And if you meant those 2 here, then it falls to question of you willing to OC. As they'll OC to +-100MHz same target.
   
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