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Intel Core X series processor family and X299 chipset Announced at Computex May 30th
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Default Intel Core X series processor family and X299 chipset Announced at Computex May 30th - 04-21-2017, 13:36 | posts: 28,667 | Location: Guru3D testlab

It looks like Intel is pushing forward their X299 Chipset release with alongside it Core X processors. The announcement would beÂ*May 30th with availability June 26th opposed to a release in August....

Intel Core X series processor family and X299 chipset Announced at Computex May 30th
   
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12 core extreme....
   
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Do we have an ETA for the 12- and 16-core Ryzen CPUs?
   
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Panic reaction? Please, they don't just produce a new 12-core die within a few weeks/months out of "panic", this takes planning for years.

What I'm more interested in are the rumors about Coffee Lake 6 cores coming this summer already on the 370 platform.
   
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12 core extreme....
Can you imagine the price on that thing?
   
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Default 04-21-2017, 14:15 | posts: 28,667 | Location: Guru3D testlab

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Panic reaction? Please, they don't just produce a new 12-core die within a few weeks/months out of "panic", this takes planning for years.

What I'm more interested in are the rumors about Coffee Lake 6 cores coming this summer already on the 370 platform.
This CPU/Chipset series was originally planned for the Q4 Christmas 2017 season. Ryzen launched and it already got moved to August. Rumors of 12/16 core Ryzen parts appeared and all of the sudden Intel makes a move to Computex and invested reportedly spent over US$100 million to accelerate its pace of manufacturing.

Yes panic reaction, these parts might have been designed ready, but where not ready for fabbing this soon already.


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Can you imagine the price on that thing?
Well the 10-core Core i7-6950X is like 1825 bucks. So for the 12 core part that is 182.5 x 12 = 2190 Euro. Lets call it an even 2K CPU.

The Ryzen 7 8-core 1800X is like 525 Euro is 66 Euro per core. So their 12-core part would cost just under 800 bucks.

With Ryzen available, honestly I cannot see them increasing prices at all and they might even be lowering their pricing structure, like they have to.


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Well the 10-core Core i7-6950X is like 1825 bucks. So for the 12 core part that is 182.5 x 12 = 2190 Euro. Lets call it an even 2K CPU.

The Ryzen 7 8-core 1800X is like 525 Euro is 66 Euro per core. So their 12-core part would cost just under 800 bucks.

With Ryzen available, honestly I cannot see them increasing prices at all and they might even be lowering their pricing structure, like they have to.
I would hope they lower the prices. They really have to or they will not sell this new HEDT platform to anyone but their devoted fanbois.

That said if the entry level 8 core product comes in around r7 1800x price they could be viable options.

How I would price these.

7740k (KLX) 16 lanes 4.2-4.5 $280
7800k 6/12 28 lanes 3.8-4.0 $350
7850k 6/12 44 lanes 3.8-4.1 $415
7900k 8/16 44 lanes 3.7-3.9 $550
7950k 10/20 44 lanes 3.6-3.9 $800
7990k 12/24 44 lanes 3.5-3.9 $1200
This is not based on any facts just my fantasy.

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Panic reaction? Please, they don't just produce a new 12-core die within a few weeks/months out of "panic", this takes planning for years.

What I'm more interested in are the rumors about Coffee Lake 6 cores coming this summer already on the 370 platform.
The release date is panic not the chip itself, this thing was made to come in 4 months not two and this give merit to the amd x399 hedt platform.. it will be fun
   
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I see very few people buying a 12 core at an even greater price than their current top of the range 10 core chip.

As long as AMD can match the features such as quad channel etc, Intel will have to keep responding.

Great news for us consumers in the long run, but for right now anything you buy might be surpassed far quicker than normal.
   
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I would hope they lower the prices. They really have to or they will not sell this new HEDT platform to anyone but their devoted fanbois.
This^^ Intel´s high end pricing structure was broken by Ryzen and the only way to change the situation is lower the prices of their cpus to reasonable terms. I wonder if Intel still remembers what reasonable prices look like...

In my opinion Intel would be better cutting the prices of their current high end cpus than releasing newer ones but that´s me.
   
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Default 04-21-2017, 14:42 | posts: 1,084 | Location: Into the light

The question is:
Who will buy this Skylake-X(or X299) when CoffeLake(and 300 series chipset),or whatever name will be,will coming Soon™.

Indeed panic and Milking the market is already usual at Intel.

Hey Intel board: Fire that old fart CEO and put someone with vision of future.Dammit
   
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The question is:
Who will buy this Skylake-X(or X299) when CoffeLake(and 300 series chipset),or whatever name will be,will coming Soon™.

Indeed panic and Milking the market is already usual at Intel.

Hey Intel board: Fire that old fart CEO and put someone with vision of future.Dammit
The same people that bought X99? The same people that bought Ryzen?

It's arguably easier to do with CPU's because generation -> generation changes are like nothing. Like look at the list of coffeelake enhancements. I don't care about any of those.
   
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The same people that bought X99? The same people that bought Ryzen?

It's arguably easier to do with CPU's because generation -> generation changes are like nothing. Like look at the list of coffeelake enhancements. I don't care about any of those.
If the x399 from amd comes at the same time and it has 64 pci-e lanes, prftt i am switching to amd hedt with a 12 core day one
   
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Need to sell my 5960X sooner than I thought! Need that 12 core and that 4 core
   
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If the x399 from amd comes at the same time and it has 64 pci-e lanes, prftt i am switching to amd hedt with a 12 core day one
Idk, I'm definitely going to end up either Skylake-X or Snowy Owl or w/e AMD is calling their HEDT stuff. My worry is that AMD can bring the core count but the clock speed will be limited.

Guess we'll see.

I do like Ryzen though. I built a 1700 system for a friend of mine (he does mostly video editing type work) and he hasn't stopped telling me how good the performance is, especially for encoding. I also ran a few games on it, he doesn't game but I made him get a RX480 because everyone should game - system played everything extremely well and total cost was about $1200. An Intel system with the same level of encoding/game performance would probably cost a lot more. I felt like his use case was perfect for Ryzen though.
   
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Idk, I'm definitely going to end up either Skylake-X or Snowy Owl or w/e AMD is calling their HEDT stuff. My worry is that AMD can bring the core count but the clock speed will be limited.

Guess we'll see.

I do like Ryzen though. I built a 1700 system for a friend of mine (he does mostly video editing type work) and he hasn't stopped telling me how good the performance is, especially for encoding. I also ran a few games on it, he doesn't game but I made him get a RX480 because everyone should game - system played everything extremely well and total cost was about $1200. An Intel system with the same level of encoding/game performance would probably cost a lot more. I felt like his use case was perfect for Ryzen though.
Dont expect a 12 core SLX to bring 5.0 ghz or something like that, kaby lake X is garbage anyhow a four core on a hedt with dual memory channel support only..

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Oh crap I just finished building my new system. Oh well here we go again!
You don't have to upgrade, 4 cores Is more than enough for the next 5 years, at least for gaming.
   
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Idk, I'm definitely going to end up either Skylake-X or Snowy Owl or w/e AMD is calling their HEDT stuff. My worry is that AMD can bring the core count but the clock speed will be limited.

Guess we'll see.

I do like Ryzen though. I built a 1700 system for a friend of mine (he does mostly video editing type work) and he hasn't stopped telling me how good the performance is, especially for encoding. I also ran a few games on it, he doesn't game but I made him get a RX480 because everyone should game - system played everything extremely well and total cost was about $1200. An Intel system with the same level of encoding/game performance would probably cost a lot more. I felt like his use case was perfect for Ryzen though.
I do think amds 12 and 16 cores could very well be 4ghz if thermals allow it. Else not.
   
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Dont expect a 12 core SLX to bring 5.0 ghz or something like that, kaby lake X is garbage anyhow a four core on a hedt with dual memory channel support only..

intel being mediocre as usual
We may see 4.7-4.8 on the regular though. On KLX if priced right it will have its market. If it comes in under $300 (probably won't though). Also I would not be surprised if Intel stops production on 7700k when 7740k hits shelves, as to force people on to their HEDT platform if they want to overclock.
   
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You don't have to upgrade, 4 cores Is more than enough for the next 5 years, at least for gaming.
4-cores are lacking even today. I've seen Watch Dogs 2 get 100% usage on all 8 threads on your 7700k.

In 5 years it will be long obsolete.
   
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We may see 4.7-4.8 on the regular though. On KLX if priced right it will have its market. If it comes in under $300 (probably won't though). Also I would not be surprised if Intel stops production on 7700k when 7740k hits shelves, as to force people on to their HEDT platform if they want to overclock.
On all cores?? Not even close to that number
   
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On all cores?? Not even close to that number
On the 6 and 8 cores I don't see an issue getting those frequencies. We were seeing 4.7 with the IB-E 6 cores.
   
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Dont expect a 12 core SLX to bring 5.0 ghz or something like that, kaby lake X is garbage anyhow a four core on a hedt with dual memory channel support only..

intel being mediocre as usual
I don't expect 5ghz, but I do think Skylake-X will be able to hit 4.5/4.6. Skylake also has a ~5% IPC gain over Broadwell. So I think there is going to be a pretty decent uplift in performance from Intel's current HEDT platform.

I also think Intel is going to revise it's pricing with the launch.

AMD might be better at price/perf - but I'm not that concerned with pricing. I'm budgeting roughly $1000 for a new mobo/cpu. Whatever I can get that's faster within that budget is what I'm going to get.
   
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