Ryzen & intel 3D Xpoint Optane Dimms.

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  1. vestibule

    vestibule Ancient Guru

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    Hi guys just a bit of chat here, what say you?
    We have all seen how Ryzen performs better with faster Ram. But or however
    what if Ryzen with a mobo bios update could support 3D Xpoint Optane dims.
    Could Ryzen then take the performance crown from intel? :stewpid:
     
  2. jura11

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    Hi there

    I just don't think AMD will support 3D Xpoint Optane and I would rather suggest get M.2 or NVMe disk or wait on Optane PCI_E version

    Hope this helps

    Thanks, Jura
     
  3. uKER

    uKER Master Guru

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    Your whole reasoning is invalid.
    Ryzen benefits from RAM speed, yes.
    3D Xpoint Optane memory is used to accelerate storage.
    It's not RAM. It's nowhere even near the speed of run of the mill DDR4 RAM.
    Using it on a Ryzen system would do nothing special.

    3D Xpoint RAM DIMMs are planned at some point, but for the time being it's nothing but a plan.
     
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  4. thatguy91

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    I don't know why platforms haven't been developed to make use of extra memory. You have you main RAM, DDR4-3200 or whatever, I'm talking about a separate RAM solution that is low powered and slower, maybe something fitting in a single connector. It could have 64 GB of volatile RAM and act like a disk cache, but also as a RAM overflow.

    RAM overflow you may ask? Say you have 16 GB, and you do something once every couple of months that requires say, 32 GB for best performance. The cache drive (say, connected via PCI 3.0x4) can act as additional memory instead of thrashing the SSD/NVME drive with pagefile hits. Yes, it will be slower than 32 GB, but can you justify spending money on 32 GB when you might use it once or twice?

    If you're playing a game, basically once any assets are loaded it probably won't need to be loaded again whilst playing. The important good thing about this is that the RAM can be written to like system RAM, you don't have the write cycle worries that comes with non-volatile RAM. The other important thing would be OS support and drivers, it would probably be better as a standard rather than some proprietory thing.
     

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    uKER Master Guru

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  6. ragesaq

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    There are many forms optane can take, right now what we are seeing is the SSD level competition. RAM class optane won't be faster than RAM, but it will be faster than SSD and much more spacious than RAM.
    So far imo its a bit of a fizzle but future generations of the tech should be a lot better as the scaling capacity of it is a lot better than traditional NAND types. At least thats what intel claims.
     

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