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32-core Intel Xeon results surface in Geekbench
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Default 32-core Intel Xeon results surface in Geekbench - 03-20-2017, 16:34 | posts: 28,005 | Location: Guru3D testlab

The first results of a 32-core Intel Xeon processor have surfaced in Geekbench.Ā*Presumably this would beĀ*Skylake-EP from the pending Purley-platform. Intel earlier on indicated that this platform wo...

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4000 single core score for 2300mhz?
Even if that's base with a turbo of 2900~ that is seriously impressive considering single core 7700k gets 4400~ with 4500mhz
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 16:58 | posts: 80 | Location: Brantford, Ontario, Canada

I'm a little confused... i haven't used "geekbench" before but i have a question about the scores. I know when i use Cinebench that it also gives "single" and "multi" threaded scores. And those scores scale fairly evenly with the addition of extra cores (like 125 single threaded and 790 for a 4 core 8 threaded CPU. So roughly 7-8x the single threaded score for a 8 thread CPU.). Why then with a 64 threaded CPU is the "multi thread" score only around 13x higher then the "single threaded" score on Geekbench? I admit tjis may be viewed as a "noob" like question but i don't really care. Can somone explain it to me? Thanks.
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 17:05 | posts: 28,005 | Location: Guru3D testlab

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4000 single core score for 2300mhz?
Even if that's base with a turbo of 2900~ that is seriously impressive considering single core 7700k gets 4400~ with 4500mhz
It is impressive indeed. However if you take a Ryzen 7 1800X it scores 5000 points SC and anywhere close-to 30000 points with just 8 cores / 16 threads at 3775 MHz.

https://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/c...00x&sort=score


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Default 03-20-2017, 17:10 | posts: 9,227 | Location: Serbia, NS

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It is impressive indeed. However if you take a Ryzen 7 1800X it scores 5000 points SC and anywhere close-to 30000 points with just 8 cores / 16 threads at 3775 MHz.

https://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/c...00x&sort=score
Now that is even more impressive.
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 17:20 | posts: 1,382 | Location: MA, USA

I'm guessing this will cost a bare minimum of $5000. Many of Intel's 22-core parts are around $4000.
   
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I'm guessing this will cost a bare minimum of $5000. Many of Intel's 22-core parts are around $4000.
Actually the 24-core part is ... well look for yourself.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/int...-8898-usd.html


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Default 03-20-2017, 17:56 | posts: 8,961 | Location: USA

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It is impressive indeed. However if you take a Ryzen 7 1800X it scores 5000 points SC and anywhere close-to 30000 points with just 8 cores / 16 threads at 3775 MHz.

https://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/c...00x&sort=score
It must be a measurement of combination of things since 7700k and 1800x @ same clock speed, 7700k gets a little better single score in cinebench.

I have no idea what though, I don't use geekbench
   
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The SiSandra improvement from BWE was insane.

Waiting to see what Xeons exist on LGA2066, if any.
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 18:04 | posts: 171 | Location: Dominican Republic

I don“t care about geekbench scores, they are so bad optimized, much cache based, lastest intel generation based, and the scores can be edited by webmasters
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 18:08 | posts: 1,382 | Location: MA, USA

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Actually the 24-core part is ... well look for yourself.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/int...-8898-usd.html
Touche. But to be fair, there are also 18-cores worth $12,500:
https://www.serversupply.com/product...iZUaAvrR8P8HAQ
And then 22 cores worth $4000:
https://www.serversupply.com/product...eO8aAkiu8P8HAQ

So uh... I guess we can safely say these 32-core CPUs could range anywhere between $5000-$20,000.

In other words, my first comment was pretty much pointless hahahaha.
   
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Yes, no one is going to be buying these monsters (AMD's or Intel's) for their home desktops, for an absolute certainty...
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 18:24 | posts: 1,100 | Location: Toronto

Or one could have picked up an ES V3, of that proc, which is Haswell Xeon, and exploit the turbo bug forcing 3.6ghz on all 18 cores but with a 135W TDP limit.

My 18 core was only "503.16 US Dollar".
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 18:27 | posts: 364 | Location: Mars

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It must be a measurement of combination of things since 7700k and 1800x @ same clock speed, 7700k gets a little better single score in cinebench.

I have no idea what though, I don't use geekbench
Synthetic benchmarks, like any other software, are not absolutes. Much not only depends on compiler and code optimization, but on how *well* the benchmark code itself is written--to the point of whether what is being measured by a particular benchmark is even relevant to the user's software environment ...
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 18:30 | posts: 80 | Location: Portugal

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It is impressive indeed. However if you take a Ryzen 7 1800X it scores 5000 points SC and anywhere close-to 30000 points with just 8 cores / 16 threads at 3775 MHz.

https://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/c...00x&sort=score
I'm curious about the Ryzen server performance, it's so awesome we finally have competition driving development again!

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Actually the 24-core part is ... well look for yourself.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/int...-8898-usd.html
Jesus Christ Intel wtf? (To be expected without competition...).

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Yes, no one is going to be buying these monsters (AMD's or Intel's) for their home desktops, for an absolute certainty...
But it's interesting to see what could be on our desktops in 10 years time, plus what's powering gaming servers and the internet in general.
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 19:21 | posts: 485 | Location: Moscow, Russia

Nice. Shows Intel has a lot in the pupeline.
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In your face, all those Intel-is-doomed sayers!
   
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Nice. Shows Intel has a lot in the pupeline.
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In your face, all those Intel-is-doomed sayers!
Not really, it actually shows Intel is just trying to make sure they're not out-cored by AMD.

Though Intel is definitely nowhere close to being doomed, even if they were, this CPU would not by any stretch of the imagination be their savior.

This CPU's existence is for nothing more than bragging rights. Unless they charge less than $5000 for this, it's value will be abysmal. Companies try to cut corners wherever they can, and you can save a lot more money without really losing much performance by taking a different route.

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Default 03-20-2017, 19:36 | posts: 7,618 | Location: FLA,USA

Still waiting on concrete info on Skylake e/x and x299.
   
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Yes, no one is going to be buying these monsters (AMD's or Intel's) for their home desktops, for an absolute certainty...
There is always someone willing to spend their disposable income on these crazy expensive parts. Someone here a couple years ago had a dual xeon machine where each CPU cost almost $5k a piece.
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 20:33 | posts: 59 | Location: Nederlanden

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Not really, it actually shows Intel is just trying to make sure they're not out-cored by AMD.
I wonder if AMD can glue 8 of those 8-core Zen dies together in a massive MCM to make a 64 core, 16-channel mega-monster for "mainframe" like servers.

They are already doing it with 2 CPU's... it's just a matter of finding a way to route all those signals in a tighter space...
   
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I wonder if AMD can glue 8 of those 8-core Zen dies together in a massive MCM to make a 64 core, 16-channel mega-monster for "mainframe" like servers.

They are already doing it with 2 CPU's... it's just a matter of finding a way to route all those signals in a tighter space...
Maybe on 10nm or 7nm, Zen 4
   
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Default 03-21-2017, 00:08 | posts: 6,180

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It must be a measurement of combination of things since 7700k and 1800x @ same clock speed, 7700k gets a little better single score in cinebench.

I have no idea what though, I don't use geekbench
It probably means that since the load is single threaded, a single core can have access to a huge amount of L3 with very little contention.
   
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It is impressive indeed. However if you take a Ryzen 7 1800X it scores 5000 points SC and anywhere close-to 30000 points with just 8 cores / 16 threads at 3775 MHz.

https://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/c...00x&sort=score
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php...+1700X&id=2969

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php...+1800X&id=2966

I go by what this place says when comes to STP and that place says there not really on par with intel as far as STP goes.
   
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Default 03-21-2017, 00:29 | posts: 5,463

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It is impressive indeed. However if you take a Ryzen 7 1800X it scores 5000 points SC and anywhere close-to 30000 points with just 8 cores / 16 threads at 3775 MHz.

https://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/c...00x&sort=score
Those are very top R7 1800X scores.
Typically they hit 4,000 single and 20,000 in multi.

https://browser.primatelabs.com/processor-benchmarks


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Nice. Shows Intel has a lot in the pupeline.
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In your face, all those Intel-is-doomed sayers!
Following Ryzen release, Intel prices have not budged!

So instead of "GAME OVER",
it's more like "just another day in the office"
   
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