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Radeon RX 500 Will be fabbed using 14nm LLP
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Default Radeon RX 500 Will be fabbed using 14nm LLP - 03-20-2017, 14:15 | posts: 28,338 | Location: Guru3D testlab

We talked about the upcoming respin from AMD quite a bit already. It seems that the GPUs however might get a slight advantage as AMD seems to be moving towards a newer LLP (low power plus) fabrication process at Global Foundries....

Radeon RX 500 Will be fabbed using 14nm LLP
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 14:22 | posts: 6,354

Hm, maybe they aren't simple rebadges then. This should be interesting.
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 14:32 | posts: 115 | Location: Finland

This is very interesting as I'm looking for a card(s) to drive FreeSync on my monitor without doing some extreme downgrading. Maybe AMD will offer something to replace this heat oven of a 980Ti SLI.
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 14:45 | posts: 5,135 | Location: EU, CZ, Brno

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This is very interesting as I'm looking for a card(s) to drive FreeSync on my monitor without doing some extreme downgrading. Maybe AMD will offer something to replace this heat oven of a 980Ti SLI.
Probably not RX 580. But Vega should be pretty cool (hot) on 14LPP.
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 14:47 | posts: 2,879 | Location: mostar(BIH)

I figured that the 400 series used lpp and not lpe
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 15:06 | posts: 3 | Location: Greece

The official clock for the RX580 will be 1340Mhz.
At the previous RX480 was 1266Mhz.

My Gigabyte G1 RX480 easy and stable at 1380Mhz at 185W. Preatty good.

I really look forwared for the new version. TDP propably 125W.
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 15:08 | posts: 16 | Location: Washington St.

If it has any where near the same performance as the 480 their would be riots in the streets!!! It would be the biggest mistake in the history of AMD!, excluding the last decade.
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 15:15 | posts: 6,354

Lol.
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 15:15 | posts: 6,279 | Location: Australia

Hopefully it got some of the Vega architecture improvements.
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 15:28 | posts: 2 | Location: Norway

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The official clock for the RX580 will be 1340Mhz.
At the previous RX480 was 1266Mhz.

My Gigabyte G1 RX480 easy and stable at 1380Mhz at 185W. Preatty good.

I really look forwared for the new version. TDP propably 125W.
The RX 480 needs water

EK Supreme "Hwbot ed." holds the RX silent under 40`c and with 1400mhz core and stock voltage on my Sapphire RX480 Nitro+ 8GB.

Maybe the new fab will make a slightly higher clock, energy eff will pro be lower aswell
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 15:33 | posts: 312 | Location: Aarhus, Denmark

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The official clock for the RX580 will be 1340Mhz.
At the previous RX480 was 1266Mhz.

My Gigabyte G1 RX480 easy and stable at 1380Mhz at 185W. Preatty good.

I really look forwared for the new version. TDP propably 125W.
My Sapphire Nitro+ sits at 1350mhz and 2100mhz RAM - eats around 150W according to GPU-Z.

I hope for a bit more performance in the 500 series - could be a good upgrade path for many.

And it makes sense. The RX480 was tarnished by being "OMG NOT AS GOOD AS 1080" and being slightly powerhungry (despite consuming not much more and no less than the competing performance products (1060, 970, 980, actually outperforming the 970 and 80 in pr/w)).

Rebranding with a bit of tweaks to the 500 series and giving them better performance, with possibly the same powerdraw as previously, but with a 8 pin connector and none of the "OMG IT MIGHT BREAK MY 10 YEAR OLD MOBO" phantom scares, is a good strategy from AMD.
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 15:47 | posts: 192 | Location: Portugal

I putt my gpu buy on hold last year and admit: I'd be very pissed if they just renamed the card because I really want one. Better power efficiency and slightly more performance is what will make me buy one. Probably a 570. My freesync monitor needs it and I'm tired of playing at 60hz (****s my eyes good).
   
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Exclamation 03-20-2017, 16:37 | posts: 200 | Location: Dominican Republic

That sounds well, try add HBM to some RX470/480 "rebrands" to get better performance per clock

offtopic, interesting data in AIDA64 beta
https://www.aida64.com/downloads/ZTAzZDlhYjk=

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Default 03-20-2017, 16:49 | posts: 610 | Location: Kosovo/Pristina

So realistic overclock range would be 1450-1600?
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 18:13 | posts: 560 | Location: southern California, U.S.

Sadly I only see the top tier GPU's being the ones with the new fab process. If they bring back the fury/fury x or make 590 and 590x versions, and the rest being re-brands. I hope I am wrong.

Last edited by red6joker; 03-20-2017 at 18:17.
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 20:48 | posts: 5,874 | Location: USA

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Hm, maybe they aren't simple rebadges then. This should be interesting.
Whenever nvidia has done this, lowered the fab, increased the hz, but overall been the same "technical" GPU, people have claimed it was a rebadge. I don't expect anything different with this one.
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 20:53 | posts: 5,533

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My Sapphire Nitro+ sits at 1350mhz and 2100mhz RAM - eats around 150W according to GPU-Z.
For core alone
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 22:14 | posts: 724 | Location: Earth

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My Sapphire Nitro+ sits at 1350mhz and 2100mhz RAM - eats around 150W according to GPU-Z.

I hope for a bit more performance in the 500 series - could be a good upgrade path for many.

And it makes sense. The RX480 was tarnished by being "OMG NOT AS GOOD AS 1080" and being slightly powerhungry (despite consuming not much more and no less than the competing performance products (1060, 970, 980, actually outperforming the 970 and 80 in pr/w)).

Rebranding with a bit of tweaks to the 500 series and giving them better performance, with possibly the same powerdraw as previously, but with a 8 pin connector and none of the "OMG IT MIGHT BREAK MY 10 YEAR OLD MOBO" phantom scares, is a good strategy from AMD.
XFX GTR RX 480@1400 MHz max 120 W . Normally eating up 100-110 W @1400 MHz.

Stock(1288) @70-100 W.
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 22:17 | posts: 1,125 | Location: Toronto

AFAIK, XFX paid to have the best silicon. They are the 480s to get.
   
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Default 03-21-2017, 00:27 | posts: 572

Actually the xfx card only measure gpu usage and not as a whole including vram so tdp seems lower
   
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Default 03-21-2017, 00:33 | posts: 601 | Location: Ontario Canada

Would be nice to see something around 2500 shaders and a slight clock increase to somewhat close the gap between the gtx 1070, if it is just a slight clock increase then there's not really much to see here though I am a fan of price decreases.
   
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Default 03-21-2017, 05:46 | posts: 84 | Location: Poland

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XFX GTR RX 480@1400 MHz max 120 W . Normally eating up 100-110 W @1400 MHz.

Stock(1288) @70-100 W.
XFX cards counting only GPU power. Other cards like MSI, Sapphire etc masseur not only GPU but also Vram and other PCB parts.
At the end there is no difference in overall power consumption between XFX and other manufacturers
   
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Default 03-21-2017, 08:07 | posts: 134 | Location: South Africa

I'm so curious as to see if there will be a difference between the RX 480 @ 1340Mhz and the RX 580 @ 1340Mhz.
   
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