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Default Why should I care about 8 core processors? - 02-12-2017, 21:37 | posts: 234 | Location: Chicago,IL-I want Google wire

As a gamer, most games four cores. Why should I care about Ryzens 8 core processors?

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Default 02-12-2017, 21:45 | posts: 2,147 | Location: Tennessee

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As a gamer, most games four cores. Why should I care about Ryzens 8 core processors?

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Actually alot of new games are using more then 6 cores/threads.

Quite a few load up my 12 threads on my 3930k. The whole games only use 4 cores was really back for me 2010 ish era.

Bad Company 2 was the first real game to utilize Hyperthreading with 8 threads properly.

Dirt 1 was able to use 8 threads but did not run correctly on hyperthreading. But used 4 cores rather well.

Personally, I would not even use 4 cores anymore, even as a game. Especially if you play any Battlefield games or frostbite games online or even many online games. Unless you play e sports "crap".

I have an i5 2400 rig 4 threads @ 3.4ghz, Phenom X6 1055t @ 3.5ghz, Xeon X5670 12 threads @ 3.6ghz, and my 3930k 12 threads @ 4.6ghz that I test many things on.
   
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Default 02-12-2017, 22:03 | posts: 1,537 | Location: Australia, QLD

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As a gamer, most games four cores. Why should I care about Ryzens 8 core processors?

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Short answer is, you shouldn't care for it personally, at least not for a few years yet. Unless you are looking for a new PC, then it wouldn't be a bad idea to consider it.

For the industry though, its great, as it may help the price of Intel 8 cores drop as it competes with them performance wise.
   
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Default 02-12-2017, 22:49 | posts: 10,019 | Location: UK

Of those games that can use more than 6 threads, most dont need to with a fast enough CPU.
4 cores with HT (or equiv) with high IPC that clock high still rule almost everything.
6 or 8 cores with HT dont clock as well so are less capable for gamers.
   
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Default 02-12-2017, 23:04 | posts: 17,521 | Location: Glasgow

If you have just bought a 4 core CPU, then no i would worry about it that much.
If you are looking for a new CPU and want it to last for many years then it's definitely something to consider.

Most games nowadays started development many years ago, and/or were aimed at lower specced hardware.

If AMD can make 8 core CPU's affordable then developers will be more inclined to take advantage, then there are console that favour core count over clock speed.

Many games/engines could be built around having more than 4 cores, and unlike graphics settings that can easily be scaled down if you have an older GPU, there might just no way of making that game playable.
   
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Default 02-12-2017, 23:45 | posts: 6,935 | Location: Washington DC

If gaming is all you do, then no you shouldn't care too much. Buy the fastest quad core you can afford and call it a day.
If you do any video/photo editing then it would be beneficial now.
   
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Default 02-13-2017, 00:00 | posts: 6,228 | Location: Australia

Don't forget Project Scorpio. It's so close to being a PC that games released on it and PC would likely be essentially the same (not ports). There may be some improvements etc. The game engine though would basically be the same, and Scorpio is 8 core, probably 16 thread. For future games therefore, 8 cores would be advantageous.
   
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Default 02-13-2017, 00:23 | posts: 139 | Location: PA

If all you do is game, they will still have their future uses. For those that do more things with their pc such as rendering etc, they are a godsend. I with they were going to release the 16 core version for home use.
   
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Default 02-13-2017, 04:45 | posts: 3,127 | Location: Pennsylvania

Yeah if gaming is all you do than a quad i7 or i5 should be fine for a while to come. But if you do video rendering then a hex or 8 core Cpu will be better and faster for that. With me gaming with a little bit of video rendering a quad i7 is more than enough to fit my needs no problem.
   
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Default 02-13-2017, 07:56 | posts: 6,534 | Location: Austria (no kangaroos here)

Got a hexacore, was hoping to see it make some sense, won't happen soon though. Making use of more than four cores in games is still somewhat a rarity...
   
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Default 02-13-2017, 14:17 | posts: 3,127 | Location: Pennsylvania

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Got a hexacore, was hoping to see it make some sense, won't happen soon though. Making use of more than four cores in games is still somewhat a rarity...
Yeah same here with holding on to my current rig for many years to come because it will take some time for programs (other than video editing software) and games to use more than 4 cores. Plus if anyone that has a hex core or a 8 core currently and they decide if they want to live stream the extra cores will help alot.
   
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Default 02-13-2017, 18:49 | posts: 500 | Location: Milton Keynes,England

I'm using 70% of my 8 core cpu playing bf1 ,I assume that would be 100% for a 4 core.
   
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Default 02-13-2017, 19:01 | posts: 13,532 | Location: Proxima \/82

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AMD FX has higher cpu usage in general.



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future proofing? I was gonna get me a 8core 3yers ago, but back then there was no Haswell 8core yet, ok 1 yr later and only X variant for 1000 - no tnx.
   
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Default 02-14-2017, 14:29 | posts: 202 | Location: Norway

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I'm using 70% of my 8 core cpu playing bf1 ,I assume that would be 100% for a 4 core.
That's not how it works.
   
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Default 02-14-2017, 16:16 | posts: 665 | Location: United Kingdom

I would still pick my crappy 4c/4t cpu over any 8 core cpu with lower IPC.

   
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Default 02-14-2017, 20:32 | posts: 3,127 | Location: Pennsylvania

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I'm using 70% of my 8 core cpu playing bf1 ,I assume that would be 100% for a 4 core.
Plus the FX 8 core is much different than the RyZen 8 core and the Intel 8 core.

Also it would depend on BF1 and what part of BF1 you are playing.
   
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Default 02-16-2017, 08:38 | posts: 56 | Location: Finland

Well DX12/Vulcan really start to benefit from threads. I wouldn't go with 4 cores anymore. Future proofing!
   
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Default 02-16-2017, 14:31 | posts: 13

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I would still pick my crappy 4c/4t cpu over any 8 core cpu with lower IPC.

I would never choose your crappy 4/4 cpu. Ryzen will be the new king!
   
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Default 02-16-2017, 21:48 | posts: 17,521 | Location: Glasgow

It won't be king, but it will likely get close enough that only the PC Master Race people will care.
   
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haha future proofing all the way
   
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Default 02-24-2017, 13:51 | posts: 28,006 | Location: Guru3D testlab

Let me add a comment to op.

If the majority of end-users have a two core processor, your games will be optimized for that. When four core processors arrived, everybody screamed .. why do we need four core processors - nothing supports four cores. So once more and more people will get 8-core processors and thus they get mainstream/high-end (but not 1200 USD enthusiast) (and AMD will with these prices), there WILL be more support for heavily threaded games. Its technology evolving, software always follows.

At these prices and IPC I would pick up an 8-core CPU over an 4-core one without hesitation. Mate, it is a no-brainer as these puppies are going to last you a long time.


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Default 02-24-2017, 14:05 | posts: 10,019 | Location: UK

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haha future proofing all the way
Theres no proof of that
   
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Default 02-24-2017, 14:29 | posts: 140 | Location: Belgium

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Let me add a comment to op.

If the majority of end-users have a two core processor, your games will be optimized for that. When four core processors arrived, everybody screamed .. why do we need four core processors - nothing supports four cores. So once more and more people will get 8-core processors and thus they get mainstream/high-end (but not 1200 USD enthusiast) (and AMD will with these prices), there WILL be more support for heavily threaded games. Its technology evolving, software always follows.

At these prices and IPC I would pick up an 8-core CPU over an 4-core one without hesitation. Mate, it is a no-brainer as these puppies are going to last you a long time.
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