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Windows 10 KB3213986 Update can cripple multi-monitor gaming
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Default Windows 10 KB3213986 Update can cripple multi-monitor gaming - 01-11-2017, 12:38 | posts: 28,953 | Location: Guru3D testlab

There is an advisory issued by Microsoft that a certain Windows 10 Update can cripple¬*multi-monitor gaming. Microsoft tags this problem as "known issues" and hopefully is working on a fi...

Windows 10 KB3213986 Update can cripple multi-monitor gaming
   
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Default 01-11-2017, 12:46 | posts: 2,739 | Location: Ibaraki, Japan

the gift that just keep on giving.


   
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Default 01-11-2017, 13:04 | posts: 396 | Location: Slovakia

Ok and the problems with anniversary update are fixed? Like wiped partitions etc?
   
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Default 01-11-2017, 13:06 | posts: 38 | Location: Netherlands

I got the same problem, I use 1 monitor that's Dell UP2414Q 4k but it uses something like dual transport with display port connector. So, since the latest update I've some issues with or my left side or my right side of the screen will be black.

From another forum I'm member of, I found this:

"In administrative CMD prompt:

wusa /uninstall /kb:3213986 /norestart"

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Default 01-11-2017, 13:19 | posts: 17,546 | Location: 127.0.0.1

Not sure if uninstalling this update will return you to the previous one (14393.5xx), or right back to 14393 RTM, with them being cumulative, each update replaces the previous one
   
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Default 01-11-2017, 17:05 | posts: 9,937 | Location: Republic of Kekistan

If they want to force cumulative updates, the least they could do is make sure bugs like these don't exist. They probably thought their uwp **** games run in fullscreen windowed mode anyway and released it without a care. I hope a fix is released before Sunday.

Updates were better in the past, the only cumulative updates were rollups of previously validated updates. On top of that is the 3.99TB bug which seriously slows down windows update install and clean up even on an SSD. Then we'll have to deal with the "Creator's Update"'s teething issues in April. Ugh. PITA O/S.
   
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Default 01-11-2017, 17:08 | posts: 13,089 | Location: Sweden

It will bring you back to the previous update, assuming you didn't DISM it out entirely via the /resetbase parameter, though usually you wouldn't do that.

Would be DISM.exe /online /cleanup-image /startcomponentcleanup <- Compresses any previous superseded update whereas the same but with /resetbase added at the end removes the superseded updates entirely though it does prevent you from uninstalling the current one too. (Disk clean up utility should be about the same as the first command, takes a bit more time to compress instead of delete but it's safer.)
   
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Default 01-11-2017, 17:41 | posts: 4,681 | Location: Wolverhampton, UK

Murphy's law in action.

   
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Default 01-11-2017, 18:26 | posts: 4,978 | Location: 0.0.0.0

Don't you just love not being in control of windows update.
   
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Default 01-11-2017, 19:02 | posts: 13,089 | Location: Sweden

Yeah at least you can reign it in a bit with the "pro" edition of Win10 (And GPEdit or knowing a bit about regedit.) but for full access you actually need the "enterprise" edition or some of the GPEdit policies will have no effect.

They're improving that a bit with the upcoming RS2 / "Creator" update that should hit RTM in a few months.
(For example by being able to more clearly disable WU from also "correcting" driver installations by downloading some old-ass GPU driver from the dark domains of the Microsoft Update servers. )

(It has it's uses of course but not when the driver currently installed is more than a year newer than the driver Windows is currently fighting you over and forcibly trying to install. )
   
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Default 01-11-2017, 22:36 | posts: 558 | Location: MK

How do you turn off auto updates? I leave my PC on over night to compile and every frigging time it's restarted for an update mid way through and error'd out. The way the program works means it's very difficult to start over as it corrupts everything and I have to go into the registry and multiple hidden folders to delete files.

Windows 10 is such crap, I want to go back to 7 as it was perfect.
   
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Default 01-11-2017, 22:52 | posts: 17,546 | Location: 127.0.0.1

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How do you turn off auto updates? I leave my PC on over night to compile and every frigging time it's restarted for an update mid way through and error'd out. The way the program works means it's very difficult to start over as it corrupts everything and I have to go into the registry and multiple hidden folders to delete files.

Windows 10 is such crap, I want to go back to 7 as it was perfect.
Either disable the Windows update service, or

Start > Run: gpedit.msc

Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows update



EDIT - Updated correct location

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Default 01-11-2017, 23:12 | posts: 8,516 | Location: GTA, Canada

For ****'s sake. How many times has MS screwed up with Win 10 updates like this now? 7? 8 times? This is why forced updates shouldn't be legal.
   
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Default 01-11-2017, 23:18 | posts: 828 | Location: Old England

Unfortunately MS will always run in to issues due to the infinite amount of PC configurations and WaaS. However, nothing has been ground-breaking as of yet to be quite frank.
   
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Default 01-11-2017, 23:21 | posts: 7,350 | Location: USA

I dont have one them monitors I dont even have AU on my pc.
   
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Default 01-12-2017, 00:34 | posts: 297 | Location: norfolk england

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How do you turn off auto updates? I leave my PC on over night to compile and every frigging time it's restarted for an update mid way through and error'd out. The way the program works means it's very difficult to start over as it corrupts everything and I have to go into the registry and multiple hidden folders to delete files.

Windows 10 is such crap, I want to go back to 7 as it was perfect.
basically you have to have win 10 updates on because they are updating it and changing as time goes by evolving it as they see fit so its always gonna be buggy as hell and annoying updating itself all the time, i use win 7 i install all the redists i need the net framework i need and direct x then turn upadtes off for good in registry, services ,current control set 1 and 2 and current user all off make sure its 4 in all, if you disable updates off in services control panel microsoft turn it back on , only registry u can stop it , but win 10 it may not work because if you edit registry it starts to blue screen and fail you need do fresh install its a disaster of an operating system
   
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Default 01-12-2017, 02:40 | posts: 358 | Location: United States

good thing I always disable windows updates and have no issues....
   
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Default 01-12-2017, 03:28 | posts: 66 | Location: Sydney

No problems with Enterprise yet and nothing has yet to be turned back on by any updates.
Telemetry is still disabled too, according to that O&O app.
I always do a system back-up anyway, before installing anything, even with Linux!
   
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Default 01-12-2017, 08:38 | posts: 327

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For ****'s sake. How many times has MS screwed up with Win 10 updates like this now? 7? 8 times? This is why forced updates shouldn't be legal.
in windows update setting you can enable "defer updates" that basically delay or postpone latest updates
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...-in-windows-10


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good thing I always disable windows updates and have no issues....
in windows10 user setting basically not preventing windows update, it just delay

well you can disable in services and group policy, to disable it completely
but again, regarding windows updates its "love and hate"

disabling it make you prone to security holes, aside windows security patch, daily windows defender (if you use it) database also updated with windows update

and there no perfect build, there should some bug/issue with the build you use either it can be a problem to user or not
   
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Rise Bill Gates Rise

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Default 01-12-2017, 12:40 | posts: 225 | Location: Australia

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Don't you just love not being in control of windows update.
I sure do. You don't know how to control it? It's not rocket science. It's as simple as turning off two services. Windows Update and BITS.

Some people...
   
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Default 01-12-2017, 12:41 | posts: 225 | Location: Australia

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basically you have to have win 10 updates on
Nope
Incorrect You do not and never have.

It might be advisable to have the updates occasionally but mostly it's not necessary AT all.
   
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Default 01-12-2017, 12:42 | posts: 253 | Location: Earth

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in windows update setting you can enable "defer updates" that basically delay or postpone latest updates
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...-in-windows-10
that option is for deferring OS upgrades, not updates.

personally i use windows update minitool for updates on windows 10.

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Default 01-12-2017, 12:43 | posts: 225 | Location: Australia

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Either disable the Windows update service, or

Start > Run: gpedit.msc

Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > System > Windows update

I have win10 pro and there exists no such setting. But I already have the services off, is that why it's not showing in gpedit? I wouldn't have thought so.


Never mind, it's in Windows components, not system
   
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Default 01-12-2017, 13:23 | posts: 6,768

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We miss Win9x too, amirite guyz?
   
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