1080p vs 1440p

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  1. mykemyk2006

    mykemyk2006 Master Guru

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    Is there a really big visual difference between a monitor that has a 1920x1200 resolution 60hz vs a 1440p monitor 144hz? OR is just a mild improvement in picture? Would it WOW me ?
     
  2. sverek

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    144hz will "wow" you more than 1440p itself. Even 96hz will "wow" you comparing to 60hz.

    Nvidia is keeping DVI for next gen Nvidia cards, so it might be worth to get Korean monitor and OC it.
    I love mine 96Hz 1440p Crossover 2795. Got it for 260$ on amazon :banana:

    Problem with 1440p 144hz monitors are GPUs not being able to keep stable 144 fps in games. So having Freesync or G-Sync instead of V-Sync, improves smoothness a lot.
     
  3. 0blivious

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    4K (2160p) has a clear and decisive wow factor over 1080p.
    1440p is a nice improvement over 1080p. Not quite wow, but well worth it.

    As mentioned, the framerate jump would be more impressive. :)
     
  4. pimpernell

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    Yes and no.

    Depend of the type of game/work you do.
    If you do phothos/strategy games/mmo's/mobas/rpg going 2560x1440 IPS 60 would be amazing.
    On the other hand if you mostly play fps/third person shooters and other 3d games 144Hz is very nice, but you need the gpu power to drive it.

    If you have loads of money, buy something like gtx1080 and asus rog pg278q.
    https://www.asus.com/Monitors/ROG_SWIFT_PG278Q/

    If you want a good middle ground , buy a decent ips 60Hz that you can overclock to 75Hz (i do on my asus pb278q,and its half the price of the PG. Had it for years).

    970 sli/one 980ti is good enough to get all games over 75Hz maxed.
    (970's and 980's/ti is going to be piled up on the used marked now, grab one or two when the needys are switching to 1080. Haggle the price down to bare bone or look for the next seller).

    4k (3840 x 2160) on the other hand is awful in my experience.
    Not only would you need 2xgtx1080 to drive it, but no games is scaled to the size. You need eagle eyes to read any text in games, so forget about rpg's and strategy games if you use glasses.
     
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  5. mykemyk2006

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    My plan was to at least get a gtx 1070. I never thought about the text being so small on 4k on top of all that power. I think that makes 4k out of the question. I dont want to over clock monitors etc. I have no idea what that even means lol. Maybe I should just save $500 and keeep my monitor and only get the 1070... unless a 1440p 144 hz is a must have. Blah
     
  6. Xuanzang

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    I had a 24" 1920x1200 5ms 60Hz monitor for almost 8 years straight and then switched to a 24" 1920x1080 1ms 144Hz G-sync. Needless to say that the difference in smoothness was like night and day.

    Then i replaced that one with a 27" 2560x1440 4ms IPS 165Hz G-Sync. The biggest "wow" factor for me was going from 60 to 144Hz and to experience G-Sync which is fantastic. Personally going from 1080p to 1440p didn't give me THAT kind of "wow" factor, but moving to a bigger panel was nice.

    Also, going from 1080p to 1440p will result in quite a big fps drop in games unless you have a good GPU. But once you go 1440p, you never go back to 1080p.
     
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    You will WOW about bigger hz for sure.

    Worth it if you play anything else than minesweeper or pokemon.
     
  8. mykemyk2006

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    Keep in mind I am from Canada so any decent 1440p 144hz monitor will cost me about $600 minimum. I also need to buy a gtx 1070 still which will cost about $800 here. So that is why I am asking about the monitor. I am happy with the monitor I have now the Samsung T240 but ive had it for like 9 years now and would love to wow my self without breaking my bank.
     
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    In that case i would go for a good 1080p monitor with 144Hz and G-Sync, get the 1070 and crank the graphics to max on every game and enjoy the ride. Like mentioned, there is more to the wow factor when it comes to 60Hz vs 144Hz, than it is with 1080p vs 1440p.
     
  10. vbetts

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    Resolution wise maybe not so much, but that Hz though.

    Way smoother if you have the hardware for it. :D
     

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    You need less AA with 1440p, I often only use 2x instead of 4x which compensates in GPU performance over the higher amount of pixels rendered.

    The biggest WOW factor was 60-144Hz, it's so incredibly smooth when you're at 144 and makes you cringe when you play a game that only supports 60Hz.

    I went from 24" to 27" and that is a WOW factor itself though short lived one.

    The downside of 1440p/144Hz is the increased demand of GPU power. You need some serious stuff to play at that resolution but luckily 1080 and especially 1080Ti will do well in that department. But to see all games ever run at 144fps will probably take more than that (Volta).
     
  12. mykemyk2006

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    IS having G Sync with 144hz monitor really going to be that needed with a GTX1070? IT seems like inding a good Gysnc monitor with 144 hz is much more expensive than a freesync monitor with 144 hz. Also, IPS vs TN for games?
     
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    It's not needed for any GPU. Operating the desktop UI on a $50 card, the benefit of high Hz still matters. Gsync will always matter on any GPU if you play any 3D games.

    Gsync is more expensive, but it's also slightly superior in how it deals with very low FPS and FPS above the refresh rate. In the end, it comes down to what GPU you get, if you get NVidia you get Gsync, if you get AMD you get FreeSync.

    If you can afford IPS get IPS.

    Ultimately it boils down to what features matter to you, and what your budget is.

    For example, I heavily desired Gsync and 144hz so I got a XB240H. This monitor is 1080 and is TN. But at $400, the cheapest Gsync monitor I could find.
    I was willing to suffer worse colors and a meager 1080 res for smoothness and less input lag.

    Some people can't stand TN and would never make that purchase. Others yet can't stand 1080p. In light of 144hz and Gsync, I was willing to. $400 was already a bit too much.
    Size is another thing to consider, how close are you to your monitor? Do you want larger? Is 24 inches enough? Is 27 to large? Do you value pixel density over size?

    Really, once you understand what the different tech, specs, and features are, it just comes down to common sense. What do YOU want out of your monitor.
     
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    TN is better for competetive fast paced gaming (cs:go, quake, etc...) and there less problem with gamma (dark games can be really hardly visible with some IPS panels).
    Still, I recommend IPS. Pretty image and better viewing angles are hard to give up.

    GSync will provide smoother image if your GPU can't match frames with your panel refresh rate (144 fps / 144 hz)

    VSync will cause stutter, but prevent screen tearing.

    Not using any sync, will provide smooth image, but screen tearing will happen whenever your fps not matching panel refresh rate.
     
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    Imo there is only 3 choices:

    Cheap 1080p, 144hz, TN for 300€
    Cheapish(?) 1440p+, 60hz, ips for 200-400€ maybe
    Expensive but best imo 1440p, 144hz, ips for 600€+
     

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    Would people rather running 1440p with 144mhz at a constant 130 fps or would they rather run 4k 60hz at a constant 70-80 fps? Imagine that the 70 fps is the minimum. So power isnt an issue
     
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    Of course 1440p 144Hz.
     
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    Between 1440p and 1080p is not huge in my opnion, but if u do a get 1080p screen get a 120 or 144 hertz one.
     
  20. mykemyk2006

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    Sorry guys forgive me for beign confused here. I just dont understand why people would choose 144 frames at 1440p over a much higher resolution 4k and a solid 60 fps? Wouldnt the 4k look far more crisp and "lush"
     

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