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Recent Nvidia Drivers are the cause of your hitching/stuttering in games.
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Default Recent Nvidia Drivers are the cause of your hitching/stuttering in games. - 09-14-2015, 08:49 | posts: 220

Including the latest release 355.82.

You can disable Speedstep, C states, raise voltage, disable link power management, set high performance and everything else. Nothing will stop it from hitching.

This happened many times before and documented here

https://forums.geforce.com/default/t...ring-pause-/1/

Being fixed in 347.25 and reintroduced with the later drivers. If you're stuttering in many games, downclock. 347.25 works with the phantom pain and doesnt stutter or hitch unless its the game steaming its assets, but the witcher 3 plays horrible with 347.

If the new drivers are giving you a hard time just downgrade to a version you remembered worked perfectly. I havent tested and monitored all.

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Default 09-14-2015, 08:51 | posts: 220

Peppercute i can't send you a pm as yet but the link to the MEI 11.0.0.144 is here

http://download.biostar.com.tw/uploa...1d5M_Win10.exe

I just extracted the file and install. Im using a ASUS MAXIMUS Hero vii
   
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Default 09-14-2015, 10:27 | posts: 4,836 | Location: Sweden

ManuelG - Care to comment?
   
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Default 09-14-2015, 10:30 | posts: 865 | Location: France

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Peppercute i can't send you a pm as yet but the link to the MEI 11.0.0.144 is here

http://download.biostar.com.tw/uploa...1d5M_Win10.exe

I just extracted the file and install. Im using a ASUS MAXIMUS Hero vii
Hi snight01,
Is there any reason that you recommend that old version (1144) versus the latest one (1163)?
   
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Default 09-14-2015, 10:55 | posts: 880 | Location: Stockholm, Sweden

Thank you for the advice!
   
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Default 09-14-2015, 11:02 | posts: 1,210 | Location: Batu Pahat, Johor, Malaysia

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ManuelG - Care to comment?
he's busy fixing the driver..
   
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Default 09-14-2015, 12:42 | posts: 4,836 | Location: Sweden

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he's busy fixing the driver..
Hope that's true...
   
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Default 09-14-2015, 12:57 | posts: 2,766 | Location: UK

I've been getting hitching in games, I've reinstalled Win8.1, Win10, reset bios, removed overclocks etc and I've just started the process to RMA my card as I thought it was faulty, if it's just a driver issue that would be crazy. My issue is I can play for maybe 2 - 3 hours with no issue, then any game will start to hitch and drop frames constantly, is this the problem caused by the drivers? And Witcher III is the game giving me most issues with the stuttering. I'm on Win10 though so this solution isn't for me :/

This is a video I made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eo7sEukl6E

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Default 09-14-2015, 13:19 | posts: 719

I haven't been getting hitching in the recent games I've played, including Mad Max and Witcher 3 with any of the Windows 10 driversets and Win10 Insider builds, even with a very high overclock on my 980 (1,540Mhz). What exactly is happening with your guys' GPU/GPU usage when the hitching occurs?
   
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Default 09-14-2015, 13:43 | posts: 158

Got to be honest, I was tearing my hair out on a new rig. I started a thread about stuttering in most games, albeit I'm on an older card it should only result in less fps, not stuttering if I'm staying within vram restraints and don't overdo settings.

What do you know, out of desperation I installed Windows fricking 7 last night and a driver from last year. Flawless in every game I have tried.

I'm staying on that till I can afford a nice high end card and monitor, hopefully Windows 10 and driver issues will be smooth sailing at that point. Shame as I do like the new OS just doesn't work well for me at the moment
   
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Default 09-14-2015, 13:54 | posts: 2,766 | Location: UK

@PapaJohn can you watch my video and see if you had the same issue?
   
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Default 09-14-2015, 14:24 | posts: 719

Mr. H, in that video it looks like your game is hitching due to CPU usage maxing out, do you get the exact same hitching when your CPU usage isn't maxed and what does your GPU usage look like throughout the hitching?
   
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Default 09-14-2015, 14:34 | posts: 158

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@PapaJohn can you watch my video and see if you had the same issue?
No that looks worse and more consistent to be fair. Mine was more intermittent, distracting enough that I would be waiting for the next one. Frametime variance was the issue, it was all over the place and didn't correlate to the framerate displayed.

For example, 30fps you expect 33.3ms but mine would be jumping way above and below so kinda like 26ms,38,32,33, 39 ms and so onscreen it would look like a jumpy mess.

Not getting that on good old ancient Windows 7. It's been that long, I've forgotten how to use it.....Any Metro is back apps out there?J/K
   
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Default 09-14-2015, 15:21 | posts: 719

For frametime variations with a solid framerate you should try capping your framerate using Rivatuner or a similar program and also try switching back and forth between in-game and NVCP V-Sync, sometimes in-game is inconsistent compared to NVCP and vice versa.

A good example: Most UE3 games suck balls on anything but Windows 7, with solid framerates but horrid frametimes that bounce all over the place. For Borderlands I have to cap the framerate to 60 with Rivatuner and use NVCP V-Sync (this is due to developer incompetence) to get a somewhat steady frametime. For 30fps games the best gameplay experience comes from "NVCP Half Refresh Rate V-Sync" and capping the framerate to 30 using Rivatuner.
   
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Default 09-14-2015, 15:25 | posts: 271 | Location: NL

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he's busy fixing the driver..
NO he is on the beach having fun spending the money where we bought the bad product with.
   
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Default 09-14-2015, 15:28 | posts: 719

Also contemplating how to retract lies about overclocking capabilities of laptop GPUs.
   
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Default 09-14-2015, 15:38 | posts: 880 | Location: Stockholm, Sweden

The stuttering started after having "upgraded" to Windows 10 using 353/355.xx drivers to the point where Saints Row IV, Team Fortress 2 and Warhammer 40,000: Space Marines are almost non-playable.
   
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Default 09-14-2015, 16:19 | posts: 719

Have you tried doing a clean install of Windows 10 and/or the drivers themselves? Something may have went wrong with the upgrade and your system is corrupt.
   
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Default 09-14-2015, 16:42 | posts: 880 | Location: Stockholm, Sweden

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Have you tried doing a clean install of Windows 10 and/or the drivers themselves? Something may have went wrong with the upgrade and your system is corrupt.
You know what, I wasn't born yesterday... but yes, several times!
   
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Default 09-14-2015, 17:07 | posts: 220

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Hi snight01,
Is there any reason that you recommend that old version (1144) versus the latest one (1163)?
The new version 1163 removes the timer resolution optimization. It basically performs like the older drivers in windows 7. While 1144 optimizes the cpu timer resolution and scales it to perform perfectly.

Known games that perform horrible and the dpc latency is high when the cpu timer is not optimized is counter strike, half life 2, saints row, crysis 3 and ori and the blind forest.

Crysis 3 is the main testbench since it requires the cpu timer to be really low to perform great and this is where it shines the most.

If you don't want to downgrade to 1144 you can use cpu timer resolution tool but i highly recommend you use install the mei driver and test for yourself.

Strangly enough, this driver was actually hard to find until biostar listed it. I'm using all the drivers from biostar windows 10 selection and it works great on windows 8.1 also.

Also what puzzles me is, why did intel remove this optimization from the later releases?
   
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Default 09-14-2015, 17:17 | posts: 1,251 | Location: Czech Republic

I guess this is free alternative software to otherwise paid version of timer resolution 2.0

http://vvvv.org/contribution/windows-system-timer-tool
   
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Default 09-14-2015, 17:23 | posts: 220

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I guess this is free alternative software to otherwise paid version of timer resolution 2.0

http://vvvv.org/contribution/windows-system-timer-tool
I used that before the driver was released and now im wondering, Why do we have to pay or use a application to optimize the timer resolution for the cpu?

Intel does it much better. It doesnt drop it to crazy low resolution, it seems to drop on the exact mark to help the game perform great and its very consistent and 100% accurate.

This can be probably the best MEI driver Intel ever released.
   
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Default 09-14-2015, 18:08 | posts: 5,006

All fine for me, but i'm still on Windows 7.
   
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Default 09-14-2015, 18:29 | posts: 7,353 | Location: Wolverhampton/United Kingdom

Windows 10 x64 Pro and upgraded from 8.1 and no issues at all.

Only had 2 games crash on me (black ops 1 and 2) but that was due to a game update that broke some old files in the steam folder. Verifying the game cache and it fixes the issue.

Every game I play (and i have over 300 games on steam, 30 games on origin, and 20 games on uplay, and countless emulators) and everything works fine.
   
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Default 09-14-2015, 18:41 | posts: 12,883 | Location: Finland

I don't have any issues either, all smooth here (clean Win 10 install). I always use v-sync though.
   
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