Looking to Upgrade My PC

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  1. bspegasus

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    Hi guys. Couple of months ago I bought R9 280X now I got some cash to my a new CPU. I have two questions.

    1- I am gonna buy AMD FX X8 8350. I think my GPU is cool and everything but my CPU is choking hard on games and I don't think I can play, Inquisition, Witcher, GTA V, Unity etc. So if I buy this, can I be able to play it on high-ultra and get locked 60 fps? I play on 1680x1080 btw.

    2- I have a Msi 2A9CH. Does it support the 8350 or am I gonna have to change it?

    3- Do you guys recommend any other CPU? I am giving you guys a link, if you could check it out, I will be buying from there.

    http://www.vatanbilgisayar.com/islemciler/?srt=PU&opf=p2834,p2835

    My ceiling is AMD FX X8 9370, its 600 Turkish liras, which is 232 US dolars.

    Thanks in advance. I don't come here very often, but anytime I have a PC related issue you guys bring down the Hammer of Issue Solving like Zeus
     
  2. scoter man1

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    I personally think it's a mistake to buy a CPU when you're gaming at that resolution. Your processor takes on more work at lower resolutions like that. I'd suggest you consider getting a monitor that is at least 1080p. If you had to get a cpu, I'd recommend a 4690K instead of the AMD processor since you really aren't going to get any benefit from an 8 core cpu yet, at least for gaming. I think the monitor should be your first priority though. You've got a nice gpu, use it!
     
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    Thank you for you answer. Buying a monitor is to off the table for now. I will be relocating to Ireland in 7 months for my master degree , I am thinking about getting my CPU and GPU with me try to build a new rig around them in Ireland if I don't go to dorm.

    So a good CPU for future endeavours would be nice. I though about getting 8350 because it has 8 cores, new gen and stuff you know and it's cheaper then, say 4690K for about 200 liras and won't be able to pay that.
     
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    Well that i7 860 can be faster @ single threaded stuff.. Especially if Oc'ed a little.

    ie your cpu @ 3ghz vs fx 8350 @ 4ghz

    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/697?vs=192

    In games it will be faster if ~3.4ghz+



    I wouldn't bother with Fx9300 series, its consumes too much power for what it offers and it can still end up slower (by games) then average i7 @ 3.6ghz+.
     
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    It has a stock fan and I don't think I can push it higher then stock values and I have no idea how to overclock. Also I don't this single thread stuff, sorry I am clueless.

    By the way forgot to mention. I also do rendering too. I am a director/editor I shoot a lot of short movies. So I am looking for a CPU that can do help me with too.
     
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    Going from the i7 860 to the FX8350 is mostly not a worthwhile upgrade particularly if you factor in OC. If you're facing CPU bottlenecks in the games you play, then go for an Intel i5 / i7 system and you'll get better CPU performance that way.

    @scoter man1: AMD's octo-cores aren't real octo-cores in that sense of the word. They have 8 threads but have shared resources between every two cores. The processor is 4 modules, 2 cores per module. Regardless, the FX8350 is slower than the quad-core i5 / i7 even when all threads are fully loaded on all processors.
     
  7. -Tj-

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    Did you look at benchmarks, imo those numbers kinda say it all..

    In games its best to have a really fast per core performance and this is something AMD FX lacks a lot.


    Yes by editing it will be faster, like in those benchmarks vs your i7 860 atm..


    Imo the smartest move would be sacrifice extra 200 liras and get 4790 + z97 mobo, this way you're guarantied to be able to upgrade to Broadwell later..
    http://www.vatanbilgisayar.com/core-i7-4790-soket-1150-36ghz-8mb-cache-22nm-islemci.html?srt=PU

    Or get a i5 now and then upgrade to fancy i7 Broadwell cpu later, sometime next year..


    i5 4690 575liras
    http://www.vatanbilgisayar.com/core-i5-4690-soket-1150-35ghz-6mb-cache-22nm-islemci.html?srt=PU

    & this mobo, still kinda cheap and not too cheap looking ~ 370Liras
    http://www.vatanbilgisayar.com/z97-g55-sli-intel-z97-soket-1150-ddr3-3200mhzoc-anakart.html


    i5 4690 vs fx 8350, i5 4690 dominates it 99% of the time.
    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/697?vs=1198
     
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    Like I said, I don't have great OC capabilities.

    So what can you recommend me for an i5? I might go for i5 4590 or i5 4690. Would they be a worthwhile upgrade over my 860. I am having bottleneck issues.
     
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    Thanks I will look into them. One last quesiton, does my motherboard support i5 4690? It's Msi 2A9CH.
     
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    no its H57 chipset,

    i5 4000 series needs LGA1150 socket with H87, H97, Z87, Z97, chipset.

    I also listed a cheap z97 mobo there.. ~ 125$
     

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    Thank you. I will look into them.
     
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    Oh I didn't know that. I figured they were all individual. I guess that helps explain why they don't keep up, along with other factors.
     
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    you can go even cheaper while keeping Z97 ;D

    http://www.vatanbilgisayar.com/z97-pc-mate-intel-z97-soket-1150-ddr3-3000mhzoc-hdmidvi-anakart.html

    its a entry mobo, you see it has basic VRM (near cpu socket - those black squares on the left side by that mini heatsink) and nothing special for cooling.. that for 125$ is better in both areas, I chose that only for these reasons and more sata ports.

    And do try to stick with Z chipset its more versatile for upgrades.
     
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    Oh yeah, that 20 lira gain I liked it :D

    Thank you so much for all you guys' patient answers.
     

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    Vishera may be slower than i7 but it's def faster than i5 where multithreading is concerned.
     
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    Sooo I suddenly got a money from somewhere (God I sound like a doperunner). I am going to upgrade my other parts too. So the question is can Z97 PC Mate Intel Z97 Soket 1150 DDR3 3000MHz ( http://www.vatanbilgisayar.com/z97-pc-mate-intel-z97-soket-1150-ddr3-3000mhzoc-hdmidvi-anakart.html ) support

    8GB (2x4GB) Vengeance LowProfile DDR3

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    Intel Core i5 4690K?

    I have a R9 280X already, what would you guys think about this rig? No bottlenecks from ram or CPU right? And my new motherboard supports all the parts?
     
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    yes, well 4770k or 4790k would be the best choice, 4 extra threads will help.

    If you dont want to spend that much, may reconsider that 125$ mobo + 4690k it would be better then this MSI PC mate,.
     
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    With the 5820K at $380 ($300 if you're near a Microcenter), and entry-level X99 boards being very... very capable, and dual-channel DDR4-2133 being released soon and pretty affordable, I would consider this combination very strongly over the 4790K+Z97+8GB DDR3 combo.
     
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    Let's rap it up then:

    5820K: 1.104 TL (430$)

    4790K: 943 TL (370$)

    4770K: 869 TL (340$)

    4690K: 653 TL (260$)

    Z97-G55: 367 TL (143$)

    Z97 PC Mate: 245 TL (95$)

    8GB (2x4GB) Vengeance LowProfile 230 TL (90$)


    Considering that I only have 1200 TL (555$)if I were to buy , say, 4770K I would not have any money left to buy the other parts.

    For example: 4770K + Z97 PC Mate + Vengeance LowProfile would be 1345 TL and I am really streching myself with over 1100 TL'ish.

    So my best bet would be to gor for 4690K + Z97 PC Mate + Vengeance LowProfile, which is 1128.

    (God damn it I hate math)

    Going 4690K, over 4770K, considerining I already have R9 280X would be helpful, no?

    I got left 7 to 8 months in Turkey and I want to play Inquisition, Witcher 3, Unity, Far Cry 4 etc. with no problems.
     
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