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Default Windows 9 Charms bar has been barred - 08-07-2014, 16:36 | posts: 21,103 | Location: Guru3D testlab

WinBeta received word that the new operating system may drop or significantly change the way the Charms Bar functions for desktop users.Â*Windows Threshold is shaping up to be an operating system very...

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Default 08-07-2014, 17:53 | posts: 10

Oh man, such innovation! Wanna 2 of these!
   
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Default 08-07-2014, 19:28 | posts: 452 | Location: Xylanthia

waht will these bring..??????

Interface (OS)....>>>>
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Nicolas Tesla said bfore..... there's a very big difference between PROGRESS and TECHNOLOGY....
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Default 08-07-2014, 20:21 | posts: 1,837

yea keep removing things, that's an excellent idea
   
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I like the modern UI implementation and all of the improvements Windows 8 and 8.1 made over 7 a lot.
   
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Default 08-07-2014, 21:39 | posts: 6,770 | Location: 127.0.0.1

Finally MS seeing sense and giving a real desktop OS back to desktop users
   
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Default 08-07-2014, 23:46 | posts: 5,023 | Location: Washington State, USA

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yea keep removing things, that's an excellent idea
It is when it's an annoyance, unneeded, and bloats your software
   
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Default 08-07-2014, 23:51 | posts: 118 | Location: Netherlands

Im using windows 8.1 now for 5 weeks and my verdict is it's not difficult to use but there is no logic in the whole system. Windows 7 i still like alot more.

I just hope windows 9 is back to old desktop and **** this whole charm tiles metro system it;s un logical in use and stupid.

Oh all who claim windows 8.1 is alot faster also lie about that, its maybe fraction faster i have maybe 1 sec win to desktop over my win7 install 5 weeks ago.

Benchmarks are almost same not much gain there little faster.

Give me windows 7 any day over windows 8.1.

But have to do with win 8.1 for now, i just hope windows 9 will be for desktop users again.
   
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Default 08-07-2014, 23:53 | posts: 6,770 | Location: 127.0.0.1

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Im using windows 8.1 now for 5 weeks and my verdict is it's not difficult to use but there is no logic in the whole system. Windows 7 i still like alot more.

I just hope windows 9 is back to old desktop and **** this whole charm tiles metro system it;s un logical in use and stupid.

Oh all who claim windows 8.1 is alot faster also lie about that, its maybe fraction faster i have maybe 1 sec win to desktop over my win7 install 5 weeks ago.

Benchmarks are almost same not much gain there little faster.

Give me windows 7 any day over windows 8.1.

But have to do with win 8.1 for now, i just hope windows 9 will be for desktop users again.

Install StartIsBack > Disable Metro = Win 7 with all the 8.1 under the hood improvements
   
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Default 08-08-2014, 03:54 | posts: 60

Microsoft are really doing some amazing things these days. Reworking menus and charms bars. Must take years to figure out how to do these things, decades. Really moving in leaps and bounds.
   
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Default 08-08-2014, 05:01 | posts: 2,297 | Location: Planet Earth

I know I'll be in the minority, but as a desktop user and Windows 8.1 user - I'll be pretty pissed if they don't at least allow desktop users the choice of using the Modern UI.

I much prefer the Modern UI over the standard desktop start menu from Windows 7, i do like the look of the proposed new Start menu (the one that combines the old menu with tiles from the new one), but i really do want to keep the full Modern UI as i really do prefer it.

They really should have had the choice to use the Windows 7 style menu in Windows 8/8.1, and i really hope they've learned their lesion in giving OPTIONS!.
   
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Default 08-08-2014, 07:02 | posts: 2,052

Well that pisses me off, I use the Charms bar a lot.
   
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Default 08-08-2014, 07:13 | posts: 21 | Location: Thailand

I agreed with spets i use it a lot since i purchase 2 license of windows 8.1 I'm get addict to it. I think microsoft keep make windows worst day by day now
   
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Default 08-08-2014, 07:14 | posts: 7,351 | Location: Sunny Scotland

why a new os every year are they having a laugh?
I vote to keep win8.1 and give it dx12 update.
   
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Default 08-08-2014, 07:25 | posts: 2,670 | Location: florida

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why a new os every year are they having a laugh?
I vote to keep win8.1 and give it dx12 update.
this..

annoying for companies as well. they worked to get things working on 8/8.1 and year later have to do it again.


at lest let 8.1 mature some.


it like hiring a new person and training them and then replacing them as soon as they trained.

heres hoping maybe windows 9 will be free or discounted.

because not every one is going to be willing to shell money over when they just bought a windows 8 machine or license.

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I hadn't considered the business side of things waw.
   
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Default 08-08-2014, 07:42 | posts: 16 | Location: Hampshire

Microsoft makes that old saying

"worked like a charm" sound like something you should be RMAing.

I used Win8.1 for a couple of weeks before going back to Win7 and the thing I disliked most was the charms that kept popping up even when i had turned off most of them.

If Microsoft have got to have charms why don't they stick them on the right mouse click under a sub menu where they won't bother me.
   
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Default 08-08-2014, 12:47 | posts: 181 | Location: Singapore

I hope MS has learnt to keep the OS lean, to always retain tried and successful interface like the traditional desktop layout. If they want to push radical new UI/layouts then make it available but OPTIONAL. Then run stats to see if it is widely used enough to be considered popular or success. Take customer feedback seriously, make the changes we want and we will happily throw money at you.

MS you don't tell us what we like. WE tell you what we like. You make what we like, we buy. Was that hard to understand at all?
   
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Default 08-08-2014, 12:50 | posts: 6,770 | Location: 127.0.0.1

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I agreed with spets i use it a lot since i purchase 2 license of windows 8.1 I'm get addict to it.
And nothing will change for your 2 licenses of 8.1, they're not removing it from 8.1

Like the charms bar, keep 8.1, simplez

Dunno why people are whining about them removing stuff from an unreleased version of windows

If you had a car with air conditioning, and the manufacturer announced they were going to release a new version of it without air con, would you whine on about that?

It doesn't affect your current car (OS) keep using it and don't use the new one if you hate it so much

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Default 08-08-2014, 12:56 | posts: 16,493 | Location: US East Coast

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Like the charms bar, keep 8.1, simplez
The same idea works for Win7 users. If you like the UI, keep Win7. For some reason, that idea seemed to piss off Win7 lovers.....


   
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Default 08-08-2014, 13:23 | posts: 7,125 | Location: Above Earth in a Big Rocket Ship

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I hope MS has learnt to keep the OS lean, to always retain tried and successful interface like the traditional desktop layout. If they want to push radical new UI/layouts then make it available but OPTIONAL. Then run stats to see if it is widely used enough to be considered popular or success. Take customer feedback seriously, make the changes we want and we will happily throw money at you.

MS you don't tell us what we like. WE tell you what we like. You make what we like, we buy. Was that hard to understand at all?
So you want Microsoft to keep the OS lean but you don't want them to remove anything going forward and make it all optional?..

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why a new os every year are they having a laugh?
I vote to keep win8.1 and give it dx12 update.
Because they are competing with companies that update their OS every 6 months. Microsoft if anything needs to speed up it's development process. Obviously reduced pricing should be a part of that change but it already basically is. I bought 3 copies of Windows 8 Pro for $40 each. That's like nothing considering it's my most used software.

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Default 08-08-2014, 13:30 | posts: 6,770 | Location: 127.0.0.1

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The same idea works for Win7 users. If you like the UI, keep Win7. For some reason, that idea seemed to piss off Win7 lovers.....
Well, removing the start menu was a bad move, and was simply fixed with a 3rd party, Metro doesn't belong on a non touch desktop, and is simply fixed also with disabling it with 3rd party, the rest of the under the hood / explorer updates in 8.x are well worth the upgrade from 7

So I guess if someone releases a 3rd party charms bar for Win 9, and Win 9 brings great updates to the table too, then fair do's, upgrade and install a charms bar, although I can not see the appeal for it on a desktop, just made things more awkward imo, and MS obviously realised people weren't happy as they added shutdown etc to menu-X, more or less back where it was in 7 and earlier

Now they are removing more Metro stuff from the desktop, again people were not happy, and amazingly MS listened

There are a few people who like Metro stuff, but Id say the majority can see it belongs on touch devices, not keyboard and mouse desktop users

Not dissing anyone who does like it, it's personal preference at the end of the day, 10 years ago I would have loved it, but over the last decade Ive noticed a distinct lack of excitement of change just for change sake

I used to download Vista leaks bouncing on my chair just because this new build had a new icon or something daft - now I just want my machine to do what I tell it, and work, I don't really want useful things removed that Ive learned to use over the last 20+ years

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Install StartIsBack > Disable Metro = Win 7 with all the 8.1 under the hood improvements
This man knows!!!
   
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Default 08-08-2014, 14:21 | posts: 397 | Location: MA, USA

I'd be happy to see the charm bar go. In windows 8.1 it is utterly useless, and it was nearly useless in 8.0. Give all the hate you want to metro - I don't think it's that bad. It could have been executed much better, but a lot of you who hate it are just incapable of experiencing change. Since I only use Windows for gaming, I can't say I'd be fond of the metro interface when it comes to a productive environment, but then again, even windows 7 annoys me when trying to do something productive.
   
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Default 08-08-2014, 14:29 | posts: 6,770 | Location: 127.0.0.1

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but a lot of you who hate it are just incapable of experiencing change.
Metro fanboi Stuck record sentence

Funny, most of us never had any problems with change coming from DOS > Win 7

Suddenly those of us who don't like Metro are incapable of change? No, we can just see it for what it really is, pointless and useless

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