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Is 780ti "too much" for 1080p ?
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Default Is 780ti "too much" for 1080p ? - 08-06-2014, 01:11 | posts: 112 | Location: USA

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After my failed attemp with an Asus VG248QE (which I deemed as a bad quality display compared to my current S27B350) I am thinking seriously of a 780 TI. I finally reached a conclusion (to me at least) that a SOLID 60FPS with everything crancked up to the highest possible setting including MSAA,TXAA, McDonaldAA etc. is much better than sacrificing quality just to have fps jumping everywhere from 80-115.

It looks like I'll keep my 60Hz 1080p monitor. I hate SLI BTW. I always aim for a single powerful card.

Is 780ti too much for that resolution ? including the future games like GTA 5,BF HL, Witcher 3 etc. etc.

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Default 08-06-2014, 01:17 | posts: 26,663 | Location: Hampshire, UK

Nope. It's actually not enough in some games
   
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Default 08-06-2014, 01:19 | posts: 112 | Location: USA

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Nope. It's actually not enough in some games
Like ?
   
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Default 08-06-2014, 01:29 | posts: 4,264 | Location: Serbia, NS

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Crysis 3, it takes more than 780ti to max it out.

Edit : Well, maybe its enough for 1080p.
   
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Default 08-06-2014, 01:55 | posts: 26,663 | Location: Hampshire, UK

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Crysis 3, it takes more than 780ti to max it out.

Edit : Well, maybe its enough for 1080p.
there's quite a few games that will cripple a single 780ti, even at 1080p 60hz, especially when messing with inspector. BF4 with 200% resolution scaling and 4xmsaa will crawl into single digits, most likely. Crysis 3 (not really a game) will struggle. Assetto Corsa too, pScreenshot, Star Citizen etc. Just to name a few.
   
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Default 08-06-2014, 02:20 | posts: 6,779 | Location: USA

Not a single game ive ran across that i cant max out with mine at 1440P, but witcher 3 will likely require 2 cards to max out. 780ti will be more than fine for 1080P
   
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Default 08-06-2014, 02:33 | posts: 26,663 | Location: Hampshire, UK

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Not a single game ive ran across that i cant max out with mine at 1440P, but witcher 3 will likely require 2 cards to max out. 780ti will be more than fine for 1080P
There must be quite a few games you've missed then. All of the ones I listed, to start with.
   
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Default 08-06-2014, 03:07 | posts: 1,936 | Location: Beyond the coast

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there's quite a few games that will cripple a single 780ti, even at 1080p 60hz, especially when messing with inspector. BF4 with 200% resolution scaling and 4xmsaa will crawl into single digits, most likely. Crysis 3 (not really a game) will struggle. Assetto Corsa too, pScreenshot, Star Citizen etc. Just to name a few.
1080P with 200% resolution scaling, then it's not 1080P anymore..GTX780 Ti is enough for 1080P gaming.
   
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Default 08-06-2014, 03:19 | posts: 16,593 | Location: US East Coast

There's really no such thing as "too much" when referring to graphics processing power.


   
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It depends on what you really need/want.
   
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Default 08-06-2014, 04:04 | posts: 9,162 | Location: Toledo

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there's quite a few games that will cripple a single 780ti, even at 1080p 60hz, especially when messing with inspector. BF4 with 200% resolution scaling and 4xmsaa will crawl into single digits, most likely. Crysis 3 (not really a game) will struggle. Assetto Corsa too, pScreenshot, Star Citizen etc. Just to name a few.
Crysis 3 won't struggle, BF4 at those settings is just unnecessary, Assetto Corsa is in early access, etc. Seems to me as if you're trying really hard to think of the few scenarios where a 780Ti at 1080p won't produce at least 60FPS. The majority of games get bowled unless you have a penchant for silly AA, in which case, you should be buying two or 3 cards.
   
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Default 08-06-2014, 05:57 | posts: 6,779 | Location: USA

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There must be quite a few games you've missed then. All of the ones I listed, to start with.
Can only comment on crysis 3 and bf4, and i can say nope. All depends on your definition of crippled. Crysis 3 is 40+fps with 4xTXAA, and i know for a fact i never seen single digits maxed out on bf4.
   
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There's really no such thing as "too much" when referring to graphics processing power.
   
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Default 08-06-2014, 08:00 | posts: 108 | Location: greece

well depends of the filters you use to play,depends on the games you play (ubisoft especially) ,but if we are gonna be serius the real question is how much of a graphics whore are you?...For future proofing get 2 of them or wait for the 880ti's .I think everything depends on the game engine and the developer everything else its just a c**K tease so you spend cash upgrading for 15% more performance each year
   
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Default 08-06-2014, 08:51 | posts: 2,376 | Location: canada

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It depends on what you really need/want.
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I finally reached a conclusion (to me at least) that a SOLID 60FPS with everything crancked up to the highest possible setting including MSAA,TXAA, McDonaldAA etc.
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Nope. It's actually not enough in some games

I'm with eclap, 780ti won't be enough for some games at those settings\res... still be damn good gaming though.
   
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Default 08-06-2014, 09:05 | posts: 26,663 | Location: Hampshire, UK

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Can only comment on crysis 3 and bf4, and i can say nope. All depends on your definition of crippled. Crysis 3 is 40+fps with 4xTXAA, and i know for a fact i never seen single digits maxed out on bf4.
with resolution scaling at 200% and 4xmsaa at ultra settings? it won't be far from single digits. And like I said, there's more games out there that will not hit a solid 60fps on a single 780ti, with everything possible cranked up.
   
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Default 08-06-2014, 10:12 | posts: 2,344 | Location: Netherlands

An OC'd AIB partner version of the 780Ti is probably about 50% faster than what the OP has, so it should be a huge step forwards in terms of minimum framerates. But is it a good idea to buy a despicably overpriced 780Ti when the 880 is supposedly unveiled NEXT MONTH?
   
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Default 08-06-2014, 10:26 | posts: 348 | Location: Cape Town, South Africa

Hi, recently went from 2 GTX680's to 2 GTX780ti's, the biggest issue I have is the vram on these cards, the 780ti is a very capable gpu, but 3GB ram should have been at least 4. Run a few mods on Skyrim, and vram is all gone, and the Titan is just far too over priced.
   
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Default 08-06-2014, 10:35 | posts: 318

If its a good PC port , it will destroy it at 1080p maxed , it wont even work hard. But good ports come rare these days so you must have 2 times required power to make it right , cause someone obviously fcked it up. That's what annoys me so much lately , fixing someone else's BS by pouring more cash into your game PC ... it's just not fair.
   
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Default 08-06-2014, 11:09 | posts: 26,663 | Location: Hampshire, UK

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If its a good PC port , it will destroy it at 1080p maxed , it wont even work hard. But good ports come rare these days so you must have 2 times required power to make it right , cause someone obviously fcked it up. That's what annoys me so much lately , fixing someone else's BS by pouring more cash into your game PC ... it's just not fair.
yep, most ports are so badly coded it's beyond belief. PC gamers run all this expensive hardware, all this power, then you get a PS4 and see what it can do with a fraction of power and it blows your mind.
   
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yep, most ports are so badly coded it's beyond belief. PC gamers run all this expensive hardware, all this power, then you get a PS4 and see what it can do with a fraction of power and it blows your mind.
I think that's why my son wants a console rather, we spend so much time configuring a computer, having to use different drivers etc to get decent performance, and then when you actually get something decent you have lost interest already. I need to find a cheaper hobby.
   
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Default 08-06-2014, 11:43 | posts: 884 | Location: Austria

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I think that's why my son wants a console rather, we spend so much time configuring a computer, having to use different drivers etc to get decent performance, and then when you actually get something decent you have lost interest already. I need to find a cheaper hobby.
Having a gaming pc as your hobby was never a cheap thing though
To me it's more the matter of convenience and flexibility with console vs pc.
   
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Default 08-06-2014, 11:55 | posts: 2,376 | Location: canada

Actually, the freedom of being able to change both hardware and software is what keeps my interest in PC gaming... the reward of improved visuals and 60 fps gaming is worth it for me.

But I do agree, port coding needs improving.
   
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I finally reached a conclusion (to me at least) that a SOLID 60FPS with everything crancked up to the highest possible setting including MSAA,TXAA, McDonaldAA etc. is much better than sacrificing quality just to have fps jumping everywhere from 80-115.
Really?

You can't play a game that runs at 80fps-115fps????

Are you serious? Other than some screen tearing which you will only noticeif you have a crap monitor then the game will be extremely responsive and fluid.

Its only really when the fps dips below 60 do you feel the lag as your monitor isn't getting the fps it wants. This is where FREE SYNC and GSYNC come in to play.

But not being happy with 80-155fps is just silly.
   
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Default 08-06-2014, 14:39 | posts: 8,011 | Location: Urban`Jungle

I would say go fo it 780Ti looks ideal, especially for next-gen games next year ie U4E, that extra power will come in handy.

My 780gtx max Oc'ed 1215mhz is a little faster or around 780ti ~ 1050 - 1100mhz fixed clock and I found few games that its not fast enough @ max settings 1080p.

SeriusSam3 needs small OC if Im using msaa and all eyecandy on 60fps+, Crysis3 max OC and smaa only (shading - high is ok, like any Crysis so far..), Bf4 medium OC if I want to keep above 90ish fps, BF3 medium Oc if I want to keep near 120fps limit. TR2013 medium OC with TressFX to be above 60fps,.. Rift small OC with SSAA to be near 70fps limit all the time.

WatchDogs ran ok, even stock boost that's if i ignored stutters (50-55fps drops), avg 68-79fps @ 2xtxaa or 4xmsaa rest ultra. Idk now I uninstalled it.

Rest is fine stock 954mhz boost 1097mhz.

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