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Windows 8.1 SP1 will get full start menu again
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Default Windows 8.1 SP1 will get full start menu again - 04-03-2014, 07:51 | posts: 20,926 | Location: Guru3D testlab

Build 2014 is Microsoft’s developer-focused conference, the company shared some details on Windows 8.1 Update 1, the first significant Windows update since it became available back in Octobe...

Windows 8.1 SP1 will get full start menu again
   
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Default 04-03-2014, 08:04 | posts: 174 | Location: Norway

A little to late i think... think most people will wait for Windows 9 next year now.
   
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Default 04-03-2014, 08:47 | posts: 203 | Location: Dublin

Way too late
I just hope that this update isn't gonna fight with Classic shell and Start 8. Otherwise am gonna have a lot of phone calls next week..
   
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Default 04-03-2014, 09:13 | posts: 5,836 | Location: Tacoma, Washington

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Way too late
I just hope that this update isn't gonna fight with Classic shell and Start 8. Otherwise am gonna have a lot of phone calls next week..
The way the article reads it sounds as though the update may be coming later than next week, but if it does that would be a surprise.
   
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Default 04-03-2014, 09:49 | posts: 21 | Location: Thailand

Hope that it good enough :/ but a bit get use to metro some how
   
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Default 04-03-2014, 10:15 | posts: 15 | Location: Norway

I'm still waiting for a Windows 9 with no sign of Metro and its tiles whatsoever if I choose not to have it. The (lack of the) start menu isn't the issue with Windows 8 for me, but Metro is. I don't want or like tiles, I don't want or like small apps. I want a full-fledged desktop experience with normal applications that run in windows. I have no interest in mobile-ish apps anywhere else than on my phone.
   
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Default 04-03-2014, 10:21 | posts: 203 | Location: Dublin

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The way the article reads it sounds as though the update may be coming later than next week, but if it does that would be a surprise.
yeah, I can see that, it's just that as far as I remember regardless whether the full start menu comes back now or not they still are gonna make changes to the actual one. But I have to say that it would be stupid of them not bringing it now. Windows 9 is behind the doors and I believe they will rather bring the update now and then forget about the whole 8 fiasco and start working on the 9 with as many developers as possible.But to be honest I don't want to see 9 in a few years time. 8 is OK and only needs a proper update to make people happy. I doubt it that we really need new version of OS. M$ have to understand that they are very different to apple and businesses don't want to be changing OSes too often and pay extra money every few years. Also all the professionals which are into certifications are gonna hate them if they will have to go and take new certs just to keep em updated that won't teach em nothing new at all.
   
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Default 04-03-2014, 10:59 | posts: 3,739 | Location: Netherland

Done a clean install of Win 7 last week. I think i will keep that install untill Win 9 is out
   
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i always like to have the latest windows installed (have been doing for 20 years )
   
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Default 04-03-2014, 11:10 | posts: 610

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The way the article reads it sounds as though the update may be coming later than next week, but if it does that would be a surprise.
You are correct.

Update 1 which was leaked a few weeks ago is the one that is being released on the 8th. The one with the new Start Menu will be Update 2.
   
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Default 04-03-2014, 11:15 | posts: 1,187 | Location: Southampton, UK

I like 8.1 more than I liked 7... there I said it
   
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Default 04-03-2014, 11:42 | posts: 55

I dont get it, i already go straight to desktop bypasing metro when i boot my windows 8,1, the setting is already there, or does this remove?
   
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Default 04-03-2014, 11:44 | posts: 487 | Location: 30.0000° S, 25.0000° E

I dont think its to late, at its core Windows 8.1 is superior to previous versions imo. Any improvements are welcomed.
   
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Default 04-03-2014, 11:47 | posts: 1,639 | Location: Ipswich UK

Another update to an already great OS windows8 can't wait to get it and install it on all my pc's

Who knows what windows 9 will bring but I am sure the loyal windows7 users will find fault
   
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Default 04-03-2014, 11:50 | posts: 6,465 | Location: 127.0.0.1

It's hilarious how MS make (almost) everyone excited and happy with MS for returning something that has been part of Windows since 95 by just removing it for a year or two

A start menu and boot to desktop.... yea, that's kinda what we have always had MS, well done for getting credit for something we always had anyway

So if the government took away our electricity for a couple years, then decided to give us it back, would they get a cheer at the announcement too? Or would we linch them for taking it away in the first place ?
   
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Default 04-03-2014, 12:25 | posts: 2,137 | Location: far,far from home

Reminds me of this joke.

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Default 04-03-2014, 12:38 | posts: 7,027 | Location: Above Earth in a Big Rocket Ship

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It's hilarious how MS make (almost) everyone excited and happy with MS for returning something that has been part of Windows since 95 by just removing it for a year or two

A start menu and boot to desktop.... yea, that's kinda what we have always had MS, well done for getting credit for something we always had anyway

So if the government took away our electricity for a couple years, then decided to give us it back, would they get a cheer at the announcement too? Or would we linch them for taking it away in the first place ?
That's like not even a comparable analogy. It's more like the government switching to DC (or AC depending on where you live) for a couple years, actually even that's a bad analogy because the start menu change didn't render anything unusable.

Windows 8 start isn't even that bad. I still can't believe people haven't gotten used to it. I personally like it better than just having the old start menu, although the new implementation fits both needs fine. But yeah, having 72 items pinned is a lot better than having 10.
   
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Default 04-03-2014, 12:46 | posts: 4,814 | Location: London

Stupid move getting rid of it in the first place.
   
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Default 04-03-2014, 13:06 | posts: 6,465 | Location: 127.0.0.1

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That's like not even a comparable analogy. It's more like the government switching to DC (or AC depending on where you live) for a couple years, actually even that's a bad analogy because the start menu change didn't render anything unusable.

Windows 8 start isn't even that bad. I still can't believe people haven't gotten used to it. I personally like it better than just having the old start menu, although the new implementation fits both needs fine. But yeah, having 72 items pinned is a lot better than having 10.
Yea slightly exaggerated analogy, but just making a point - they took away something we have always had, then gave it back and they get cheered for it

As above, it should never have been removed in the first place - common sense should have told them that tablets/touch could have the option to remove it and non-touch desktops have the option to keep it
   
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Default 04-03-2014, 13:30 | posts: 541 | Location: Old England

Having used a Windows Phone since WP7 I've always been a fan of Windows 8.1 and it's nice to see an OS that has received so many changes unlike Windows 7 which has received none.
   
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Default 04-03-2014, 13:35 | posts: 708 | Location: Tonawanda

After 17 years being a core part of Windows MS decides to pull it completely. Blames PC manufactures for slow Win 8 sales. Then says it will bring it back in Windows 8.1 after lots of complaints. But all they brought back was the Start Icon that takes you back to the Tiles O_o. So after a year and half they are truly bringing back the Start Menu we all know and love.

So I wonder how much this little blunder has cost MS?


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I dont think its to late, at its core Windows 8.1 is superior to previous versions imo. Any improvements are welcomed.
I still do not see how Win 8 is Superior over Win 7. I have to identical Laptops one running 8 the other running 7. I see no performance gain other then Win8 boots up and shuts down faster.
   
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I still do not see how Win 8 is Superior over Win 7. I have to identical Laptops one running 8 the other running 7. I see no performance gain other then Win8 boots up and shuts down faster.
I like the task manager in 8 much more plus it seem a bit lighter than 7.
   
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Default 04-03-2014, 13:42 | posts: 14,788 | Location: Glasgow

Probably hasn't cost them much, as the market has been declining for years anyway.

PC sales are slow as barely anyone wants a PC or even a laptop these days and Apple and Android are the main choices of tablet.

The DX12 addition (if it happens) is more likely to increase sales and excite than adding a new hybrid Start Menu will.

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After 17 years being a core part of Windows MS decides to pull it completely. Blames PC manufactures for slow Win 8 sales. Then says it will bring it back in Windows 8.1 after lots of complaints. But all they brought back was the Start Icon that takes you back to the Tiles O_o. So after a year and half they are truly bringing back the Start Menu we all know and love.

So I wonder how much this little blunder has cost MS?
PC is a dying breed. Most people don't want desktops or even laptops anymore. I also think that Windows 7 came out a time when people were willing to upgrade their PC's after having XP for so long since Vista had so many issues at launch. I think even if 8 was a perfect system it wouldn't come close to 7 sales.

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I still do not see how Win 8 is Superior over Win 7. I have to identical Laptops one running 8 the other running 7. I see no performance gain other then Win8 boots up and shuts down faster.
It's more noticeable in low end systems. 8 uses a lot less memory than 7. I also find the driver recovery to be more reliable. I don't think I've ever had 8 blue screen on me. I can't say the same about 7.
   
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Default 04-03-2014, 14:18 | posts: 6,465 | Location: 127.0.0.1

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PC is a dying breed. Most people don't want desktops or even laptops anymore.
Ive been listening to people saying that for 10 years

PC isn't dying, far from it
   
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