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Is the fat lady singing for Windows PC Gaming?
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Default Is the fat lady singing for Windows PC Gaming? - 01-07-2014, 13:40 | posts: 848 | Location: UK

With Steam machines providing an alternative to their OS and Mantle their API, how will Microsoft respond to this challenge to the near monopoly they have held on PC gaming for the last 20 years?

Have Microsoft given up on PCs for gaming? Are they only focused on Xbox and trying to maintain their office PC business?

Can Microsoft win the upcoming battle or have they already lost? Will there even be a battle? Will the likes of Steam machines and Mantle fall by the wayside?
   
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Default 01-07-2014, 14:36 | posts: 3,940 | Location: Finland

Nah windows isn't going anywhere.
   
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Default 01-07-2014, 14:42 | posts: 8,768 | Location: Indiana

MS will respond by not responding. Games are far from what gets people to use Windows. It might be what keeps a few guys from here on Windows but many here probably wouldn't care to adapt to Linux anyway despite it's lack of commercial software. Then again, even Steam for Linux hasn't helped it's adoption either.
   
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Default 01-07-2014, 17:00 | posts: 2,201

Steam machines a rival to Windows gaming, anyone got something to hold my sides together they have nearly burst from laughing.
   
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Default 01-07-2014, 17:04 | posts: 13,352 | Location: USA

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Steam machines a rival to Windows gaming, anyone got something to hold my sides together they have nearly burst from laughing.
   
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Default 01-07-2014, 17:12 | posts: 517 | Location: Belgium

Nope, but they will eventually do something that WOULD surprise us.
   
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Default 01-07-2014, 17:44 | posts: 13,352 | Location: USA

As long as there are games like World of Warcraft still about, PC gaming will never die.
   
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Default 01-07-2014, 17:47 | posts: 1,302 | Location: The Netherlands

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Nope, but they will eventually do something that WOULD surprise us.
This thread needs more color!
   
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Default 01-07-2014, 19:07 | posts: 5,263 | Location: Netherlands

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As long as there are games like World of Warcraft still about, PC gaming will never die.
Gaming on MS Windows =/= Gaming on PC

But I don't see it happening very soon. One can dream though.
   
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Default 01-07-2014, 19:57 | posts: 13,646 | Location: Devon, In A Little Town.

Nope.

Linux has got a way to go get gamers on board, simply because Microsoft can throw a lot of people and resources at making an OS. And they are even less likely to if MS can still make decent software at reasonable prices.

PC Gaming on the other hand could be considered a dying breed ?


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Default 01-07-2014, 20:20 | posts: 9,094 | Location: Toledo

Valve is employing wishful thinking if they think SteamOS will be a legitimate competitor to Windows. Sad but true.
   
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Default 01-07-2014, 20:25 | posts: 6,762 | Location: Dubai

MS is in turmoil and have bigger problems than PC gaming. AMD is the bigger threat assuming it takes off.
   
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Default 01-07-2014, 20:59 | posts: 866

Steam OS just another Linux distro, (and who the hell would really want to install it when there's so many other better distros available?)

It's up the the developers if they port their game to run multiple systems, which would require them (for one example) focusing more on using OpenGL than the windows-only Directx, and that among other things is entirely dependent on their game/ game engine. Then you have the Linux gpu drivers, which just don't even compare to the state of the Windows drivers in terms of, well, working. Not only that, Linux will never take over the market for mainstream, it just won't, and I say that wanting to switch over entirely to Linux with the only thing stopping me being my Windows dependent games. So it's more like "Why wouldn't they continue to develop games for Windows?"
   
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Thumbs up 01-07-2014, 21:45 | posts: 7,545 | Location: Urban`Jungle

MS should embrace Mantle and include it in next OS aka win9 and Mantle should be adopted by all gpu makers and then we will live a perfect gaming world ;D
   
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Default 01-07-2014, 23:32 | posts: 11

Cross Platform is what's in the cards for Microsoft.

Xbox, Pc, Tablet, Phone.
   
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Default 01-08-2014, 04:04 | posts: 3,940 | Location: Finland

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Nope.

Linux has got a way to go get gamers on board, simply because Microsoft can throw a lot of people and resources at making an OS. And they are even less likely to if MS can still make decent software at reasonable prices.

PC Gaming on the other hand could be considered a dying breed ?
PC Gaming is far from dying breed. More like other way around. Desktops surely will be less in future but all in all.
   
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Default 01-08-2014, 04:47 | posts: 4,762 | Location: Logd n jst 2 change avatar

Untill we get wind of MS removing the ability for Devs to make/port games to windows pc, or MS remove openGL and/or DirectX compatibility for windows pc.. I don think we have much to worry about.

Does steam pay any fees to MS for use of the Windows environment or something-a-rather?
   
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Default 01-08-2014, 05:01 | posts: 6,762 | Location: Dubai

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Does steam pay any fees to MS for use of the Windows environment or something-a-rather?
No but that's what they want to avoid with the windows store. That store is DOA is another matter
   
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Default 01-08-2014, 11:55 | posts: 3,895 | Location: Cheshire, England

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Default 01-08-2014, 15:41 | posts: 12,629 | Location: Southampton, UK

Unless SteamOS offers an obvious performance increase over Windows I don't see Microsoft being overly bothered.


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Default 01-08-2014, 15:44 | posts: 26,038 | Location: Hampshire UK

I don't think we'll see the end of Windows gaming for a while yet.
   
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Default 01-08-2014, 16:15 | posts: 1,622 | Location: Miami, FL

No.

SteamOS is Linux and Linux lacks the same level of driver support, the same level of framework support, and support for many gaming peripherals. Not to mention software incompatibilities. One of the reasons PC gamers prefer PC is the fact that once you're done gaming it's still a productivity tool. There's software that many people need for their jobs that is not available on Linux. Gamers aren't going to switch to SteamOS unless there's performance gains or there's a convenient enough reason and neither of those things are going to happen without the industry doing a 180 on its approach to Linux. Yes, you could dual boot, but there would need to be something that outweighs the inconvenience.

People need to remember that Valve didn't make SteamOS with the intention of competing against Windows. They made it so they could introduce gaming-based HTPCs and make a profit off the console-using demographic.
   
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Default 01-08-2014, 16:37 | posts: 4,856 | Location: Spain

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People need to remember that Valve didn't make SteamOS with the intention of competing against Windows. They made it so they could introduce gaming-based HTPCs and make a profit off the console-using demographic.
Still bugs me why Linux.

Maybe just because of final retailer price...........

A good PCBox or Laptop plugged to the TV, Steam big Picture and a Xbox
controller is such a joy.........

They could just go with a Embedded Windows and have the SteamBox out of the door in almost no time /controller stuff apart/

Edit / that fancy controller is to enable PC traditional games to console style
gaming , so it's not just console - using demographic but also for moving
tradditional pc gamers to the couch (that I did, long ago) /
   
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Default 01-08-2014, 17:33 | posts: 1,412 | Location: Pennsylvania

I say no because Windows still holds the majority of the OS market share. And Steam OS is still a beta and not all users can run Steam Os due to the fact that some users do not have a UEFI BIOS or Users are running AMD graphics cards. Also not everyone wants to purchase a Steambox.
   
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Default 01-08-2014, 21:23 | posts: 1,302 | Location: The Netherlands

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