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AMD Surrounds 2014 CES Visitors With Breakthrough Visual and Audio Experiences
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Default AMD Surrounds 2014 CES Visitors With Breakthrough Visual and Audio Experiences - 01-07-2014, 08:57 | posts: 21,571 | Location: Guru3D testlab

2014 International Consumer Electronics Show (CES) -- As technology leaders from around the globe arrive in Las Vegas for the 2014 International CES, AMD (NYSE: AMD) delivers a technology showcase lik...

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Just what I'm waiting for. A new mobile GPU to extend the life of my Alienate M18xR2
   
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Mantle 45% faster than DX in bf4, confirmed.
   
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Default 01-07-2014, 16:03 | posts: 504

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Mantle 45% faster than DX in bf4, confirmed.
It is Up to 45% .
   
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Default 01-07-2014, 16:03 | posts: 9,978 | Location: Sweden

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Mantle 45% faster than DX in bf4, confirmed.
"Up to" That's important to remember.

EDIT: Mentioned already.
   
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Default 01-07-2014, 16:17 | posts: 7,606 | Location: Sunny Scotland

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Mantle 45% faster than DX in bf4, confirmed.
if only bf4 wasn't so ****e but hey ho that's the way it goes. perhaps Thief?
tbh I would indeed fool around with the res slider if I got mantle in my system, i'll give you that.
   
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"Up to" That's important to remember.

EDIT: Mentioned already.
It's quite important to emphasize that "up to" part. Some people will see that 45% and immediately declare mantle a "fail" the first time the performance difference drops to 44% or less if there isn't an emphasis on the "up to" part of that statement.


   
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Default 01-07-2014, 16:33 | posts: 7,606 | Location: Sunny Scotland

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It's quite important to emphasize that "up to" part. Some people will see that 45% and immediately declare mantle a "fail" the first time the performance difference drops to 44% or less if there isn't an emphasis on the "up to" part of that statement.
those fools should be ignored, easy.
I'm expecting general of around 20% average, hopefully 20% minimum framerate boost.
   
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Default 01-07-2014, 21:24 | posts: 1,511 | Location: Warsaw, Poland

The sad thing with Mantle is that it's AMD-Exclusive. Globally-available low-level console-like access might result in different game design, as stated on Mantle presentation. Nonetheless, John Carmack said that similar level of performance regarding draw calls, can be achieved with optimized OpenGL code.

I also wonder, why did they decide to name their 16-core server CPU "Warsaw". I'm looking around thinking why this particular city.
   
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The OpenGL optimisations I believe are only for NVIDIA, and I doubt they'd provide similar gains. I think the claim is to take some of the focus off AMD. The OpenGL gains are more likely attributed to general efficiency gains in optimisation techniques, such as similar principles to anisotropy optimisation that improves performance with minimal quality loss, than fixing the underlying cause of the issue.

NVIDIA are welcome to Mantle, will they take it? Probably not due to snobbery, at least unless Mantle is picked up by even more engines and developers.
   
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Default 01-08-2014, 03:36 | posts: 3,675 | Location: Barcelona, Spain

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I also wonder, why did they decide to name their 16-core server CPU "Warsaw". I'm looking around thinking why this particular city.
Berlin and Seattle are also names of cities.
   
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The OpenGL optimisations I believe are only for NVIDIA, and I doubt they'd provide similar gains. I think the claim is to take some of the focus off AMD. The OpenGL gains are more likely attributed to general efficiency gains in optimisation techniques, such as similar principles to anisotropy optimisation that improves performance with minimal quality loss, than fixing the underlying cause of the issue.

NVIDIA are welcome to Mantle, will they take it? Probably not due to snobbery, at least unless Mantle is picked up by even more engines and developers.
Oh here we go pointing fingers...

If you want to do this, guess what? AMD also turned down Nvidia when it came to Physx and helping to fix their drivers when they were in dire need.

I've used both camps, and saw the unneeded drama from both.

Of course both sides will refuse each other.....it's competition. Pointing fingers and trying to use that as leverage in an argument is retarded when both camps are guilty of this practice.
   
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Default 01-08-2014, 03:53 | posts: 2,269 | Location: Hong Kong

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Oh here we go pointing fingers...

If you want to do this, guess what? AMD also turned down Nvidia when it came to Physx and helping to fix their drivers when they were in dire need.

I've used both camps, and saw the unneeded drama from both.

Of course both sides will refuse each other.....it's competition. Pointing fingers and trying to use that as leverage in an argument is retarded when both camps are guilty of this practice.
I have yet to see proof of Nvidia offer help / PhysX to AMD.

I have yet to see proof of AMD offer Mantle to Nvidia.

People should stop stating baseless rumour.


   
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Default 01-08-2014, 08:31 | posts: 1,511 | Location: Warsaw, Poland

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Berlin and Seattle are also names of cities.
Sure they are, but I was surprised they picked this particular one.
   
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Default 01-08-2014, 13:43 | posts: 3,675 | Location: Barcelona, Spain

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Sure they are, but I was surprised they picked this particular one.
What's so different about Warsaw vs the other two?
   
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Default 01-09-2014, 17:15 | posts: 109

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It is Up to 45% .
Yes like the BS in every new beta driver release where they say "up to 20% faster in BF4" so if you count all the previous drivers means they actual final WQ driver should be 300% faster than the last one!...
   
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