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Nvidia Powering Steambox Prototypes
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Default Nvidia Powering Steambox Prototypes - 10-04-2013, 21:24 | posts: 8,168 | Location: UK

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When Valve ships its own prototype version of a Steam Machine later this year to 300 beta users, those folks are getting relatively tiny and powerful gaming consoles. At very least, it'll have an NVIDIA GTX 660 (all the way through Titan), and anywhere from an Intel i3 CPU to an i7-4770. All prototypes come with 3GB of DDR5 RAM and a 1TB/8GB Hybrid SSHD for storage. An internal 450w battery powers the 12 x 12.4 x 2.9in. boxes, which is internal (no external power supply! alright!).

Valve says it isn't ready to show off the box just yet, but offers more details than the prototype's initial announcement: the prototype is built entirely from "off-the-shelf PC parts," and is "fully upgradeable." In fact, aside from the prototype's custom housing, Valve says, "anyone can go and build exactly the same machine." The company even plans on sharing the CAD files for the housing, should you wish to directly replicate Valve's efforts. The forum post also says we'll see the box soon, before the beta units head out to 300 lucky folks. Head below for the full range of specs.

Of course, the worry here is pricing. We still don't know how much any of this will cost, and it certainly smells like it won't be cheap. For example, Xi3's modestly powerful Piston gaming PC carries a $1,000 price tag. On the low end, just Valve's prototype's NVIDIA GPU costs around $200 (with the high-end Titan coming in around $1,000), which is to say nothing of the custom work required to fit said NVIDIA GPUs and Intel CPUs and everything inside a custom 12 x 12.4 x 2.9in. enclosure. If nothing else, beta users are getting a relatively pricey piece of tech for free -- an endeavor that no doubt engenders a lot of love from Valve's loyal community. What we'll see available for sale some time next year, however, may look a lot different than what we're seeing in this prototype.

Valve's Steam Machine prototype specs:

GPU: some units with NVidia Titan, some GTX780, some GTX760, and some GTX660
CPU: some boxes with Intel : i7-4770, some i5-4570, and some i3
RAM: 16GB DDR3-1600 (CPU), 3GB DDR5 (GPU)
Storage: 1TB/8GB Hybrid SSHD
Power Supply: Internal 450w 80Plus Gold
Dimensions: approx. 12 x 12.4 x 2.9 in high
http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/04/v...=rss_truncated
   
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Default 10-04-2013, 22:07 | posts: 5,633 | Location: Urban`Jungle

so this is nvidia's response to AMD owning console market, hm idk.. I rather have a pc
   
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Default 10-04-2013, 22:23 | posts: 5,823 | Location: Dubai

$1000 machines? They don't stand a chance v/s the PS4 and Xbone.
   
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Default 10-04-2013, 22:31 | posts: 15,596 | Location: US East Coast

For the cost, I hope Valve doesn't expect more than a few people to fork out the money for a "Steambox"....


   
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Default 10-04-2013, 22:38 | posts: 1,599 | Location: BBQ Capital of the World

does seem a bit excessive, pretty sweet home theater thingy though.
   
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Default 10-04-2013, 22:53 | posts: 14,480 | Location: Glasgow

What is it with Valve and Nvidia thinking what PC gaming needs is more overpriced pre-packaged hardware and software bundles.

As per every other thread I've commented about this, can anyone explain who these are aimed at?

PC gamers will build their own, while console gamers will buy a console.

This was likely to fail before Mantle was announced, now it had no chance.
   
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Default 10-04-2013, 23:34 | posts: 1,666 | Location: Boston

I love Valve but this makes no sense at all.
   
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Default 10-05-2013, 00:20 | posts: 4,171 | Location: Oakland, CA, US

I can see their entry level being at $400-500 . . .

Their prototype entry level gaming box is looking nice with a GTX 660.
Remember guys... this is rumors for prototype/beta boxes. Final pricing and specification is sure to be more competitive.



Signed up for the beta, really interested in seeing how these turn out.
   
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Default 10-05-2013, 01:29 | posts: 15,596 | Location: US East Coast

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I can see their entry level being at $400-500 . . .

Their prototype entry level gaming box is looking nice with a GTX 660.
Remember guys... this is rumors for prototype/beta boxes. Final pricing and specification is sure to be more competitive.



Signed up for the beta, really interested in seeing how these turn out.
Core i3 + GTX660 (or any other card on that list) = horribly unbalanced system.... And in retail, is likely to be horribly overpriced as well.


   
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Default 10-05-2013, 01:52 | posts: 14,480 | Location: Glasgow

Well no one has announced a price yet, but unless Valve subsidies the price of these, which wont happen as they wont be able to recoup that money without increasing the price of games then thewy will be expensive a feck.

I don't see Valve shoving a 25% price increase on game either in a effort to recoup hardware losses as that would make them as bad as the people they "claim" to be working against.

It will be a nice distraction to mess about with, but these and the joke that is SteamOS will go nowhere but down.
   
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Default 10-05-2013, 01:54 | posts: 2,719 | Location: Canada

So they are trying to sell us PCs, ridiculous.

And running a Linux OS even more ridiculous.

Linux is a fine OS, but so is Windows and its huge backlog of games and future ones.
   
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I love Valve but this makes no sense at all.
Mask performance and software issues with the new SteamOS behind a wall of pure power. They are prototype units so it's better for Valve to brute force any potential performance issues with the new OS than to have a bunch of Beta testers complaining at length about how the new OS can't emulate a Windows environment and play their games at a decent frame rate.

Of course Beta testing hardware that is much more powerful than the final release devices doesn't make much sense but then not a great deal about the Steambox and SteamOS has made much sense so... business as usual from Valve it seems.
   
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Default 10-05-2013, 02:26 | posts: 8,696 | Location: Indiana

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$1000 machines? They don't stand a chance v/s the PS4 and Xbone.
I don't think a PC with console specs just to meet the same price range stands a chance either seeing that development is different and they get way more out of consoles. Sony says they are selling at a loss of around $64 or something like that so I think Valve would have a hard time competing directly which I don't think they are even trying to do.

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So they are trying to sell us PCs, ridiculous.

And running a Linux OS even more ridiculous.

Linux is a fine OS, but so is Windows and its huge backlog of games and future ones.
Agree, I think they would literally have to make it a static console with standards and licenses to make it work however there is only room for 3 in the console world and that is pushing it.

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Default 10-05-2013, 02:43 | posts: 15,596 | Location: US East Coast

Saying there's only room for 3 consoles, is like saying there's only room for 3 cellphone models or 3 vehicle models. There's always room for more competition. More competition is always better for consumers.


   
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Default 10-06-2013, 17:44 | posts: 8,696 | Location: Indiana

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Saying there's only room for 3 consoles, is like saying there's only room for 3 cellphone models or 3 vehicle models. There's always room for more competition. More competition is always better for consumers.
In the console world, look up the historical facts, only 3 consoles ever make it at any given generation. The others die off.
Console gamers have a tendancy to pick 1 as their main choice, some others may get another or two for the exclusives. Developers also don't tend to make a game for the less popular consoles. As it is, several publishers have already abandoned the Wii U including EA. Cellphones are a completely different market not to mention type of product and usage. Horrible analogy but history of consoles speaks for itself.

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