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Default SteamOS announced by Valve - 09-23-2013, 19:50 | posts: 2,635 | Location: SA

THANK YOU VALVE AND FCK YOU MS!

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following up on its enigmatic announcement-of-an-announcement last week, Valve has unveiled SteamOS, a free stand-alone operating system “for living room machines.”

The OS “combines the rock-solid architecture of Linux with a gaming experience built for the big screen,” according to the announcement. In-house ******ing to a TV, similar to what’s used in Nvidia’s Shield, is a feature of the OS.

Valve also emphasizes SteamOS’s openness. Users can “can alter or replace any part of the software or hardware they want,” and hardware manufacturers are free to “iterate in the living room at a much faster pace,” setting it apart from console-style closed systems.

A vague component of the announcement is Valve’s claim to have “achieved significant performance increases in graphics processing” in SteamOS. Valve adds that it’s “now targeting audio performance and reductions in input latency at the operating system level.” It’s also unclear how many of the 3,000 games on Steam will run natively on SteamOS–Valve says you’ll be able to “access the full Steam catalog” through in-home ******ing. We’re also curious how well the operating system will be suited to desktop PCs or laptops that aren’t used in the living room.

Check back on Wednesday for the second of three announcements expected from Valve this week.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/09/23/va...unces-steamos/

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Default 09-23-2013, 19:52 | posts: 5,808 | Location: Wolverhampton/United Kingdom

You must of missed this post http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=381702
   
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Default 09-23-2013, 19:55 | posts: 2,635 | Location: SA

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Default 09-23-2013, 20:01 | posts: 2,635 | Location: SA

My prediction is that Half Life 3 will be a SteamOS exclusive...just you watch.
   
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Default 09-23-2013, 20:12 | posts: 23,360 | Location: Hoek van Holland, Netherlands

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My prediction is that Half Life 3 will be a SteamOS exclusive...just you watch.
They wont alienate windows. they will probably make it available for the mac and linux as well. (just like other source engine games)

As for this OS as main gaming os, i will never get into it.
windows with all the possibilities for mods and custom dll's FTW!
Dont give a crap for steam workshop as that has proved its quite limited.
   
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Default 09-23-2013, 20:22 | posts: 6,762 | Location: Dubai

As long as it encourages OS X and Linux ports, I'm happy. I don't want to be locked into MS' operating system thanks to gaming anymore.
   
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Default 09-23-2013, 20:33 | posts: 14,791 | Location: Glasgow

Valve are even more out of touch than MS it seems, with much of it sounding like something MS came up with.

So this is the future of PC gaming?
Strea.ming video, and games built around sitting far away from a TV with a controller.

While I'm not against those things this is clearly aimed at casual gamers and is going to alienate alot of enthusiasts.
   
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Default 09-23-2013, 23:25 | posts: 20 | Location: Uruguay

You need Windows in your other PC to play games anyway. It's cool to play in my big screen but its not what I expected.
   
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Default 09-23-2013, 23:30 | posts: 4,361 | Location: Spain

I hope it fails tremendously, i dont want games to have twice as many bugs as now because they have to "test" them in two SOs.

And I don't see any benefict over windows. (for playing games, which is what we are talking about, in 99.99% gaming computers the "better" linux performance is negligible)
   
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Default 09-23-2013, 23:47 | posts: 26,038 | Location: Hampshire UK

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My prediction is that Half Life 3 will be a SteamOS exclusive...just you watch.
They do that and they can say bye bye to my money.
   
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Default 09-23-2013, 23:50 | posts: 3,895 | Location: Cheshire, England

How about fixing that buggy client first?
   
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Default 09-24-2013, 00:02 | posts: 1,693 | Location: Boston

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How about fixing that buggy client first?
Buggy?

Seriously so much negativity for an alternative. Are we reading the same thing?
I think this is great.

http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/
   
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Default 09-24-2013, 00:04 | posts: 180

Do you guys think running only a Steam OS with games would give more resources towards the games?

Games like Arma 3 hit a bottleneck on the CPU even with todays powerful CPU's. They don't utilize all the cores available. If you are using only the Steam OS, which is dedicated towards gaming, I wonder if that would allow games to run better on Steam OS as opposed to Windows OS.
   
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Buggy?

Seriously so much negativity for an alternative. Are we reading the same thing?
I think this is great.

http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/
It's just another Linux distro and yes the client is buggy with the constant "application already running" and client freeze up
   
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Default 09-24-2013, 00:08 | posts: 14,791 | Location: Glasgow

Other the offline mode i've never found it that buggy, slow and bloated though.

It did get me thinking, i wonder if you can choose to install a lite version of this?
I don't imagine everyone will want all the movie/tv stuff, or the mobile/tablet integration as both those things are what people criticised MS for.
   
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Default 09-24-2013, 01:27 | posts: 2,201

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My prediction is that Half Life 3 will be a SteamOS exclusive...just you watch.
Well give the amount of crazy that Gabe's been talking about Windows of late I wouldn't be shocked.

Anyone else see the irony in Gabe moaning about MS and Windows on and off for several months only for Steambox and SteamOS to require a power house middle man PC no doubt running Windows to fully utilities the features of Valve's new toys?

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Buggy?
Yes

- Still refuses to save open and closed game categories tabs
- Still tells you a game is running even when it isn't
- Checks and does a first time install on games that have been played many times and been installed for years
- Is still shockingly slow, seriously Origin, Uplay everything else opens, and navigates quicker
- Still plays videos with the sound muted by default
   
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Default 09-24-2013, 01:27 | posts: 8,768 | Location: Indiana

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Other the offline mode i've never found it that buggy, slow and bloated though.

It did get me thinking, i wonder if you can choose to install a lite version of this?
I don't imagine everyone will want all the movie/tv stuff, or the mobile/tablet integration as both those things are what people criticised MS for.
I think most in general expect to be able to Netflix and play BluRay's. Almost every device now has steaming and social related apps. They just sit there and unlikely to pose any measurable difference in performance for a game.
   
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Default 09-24-2013, 01:55 | posts: 14,791 | Location: Glasgow

lol, The Laughing Ma actually i was wrong there are more issues i have with Steam.

F1refly, i think Netflix is guaranteed, but i don't think playing BluRay's will be possible if it's a free open source OS.

I don't mean they will slow anything down, but i know what people are like these days when it comes to software they don't want being forced on them.

Reading it again it does sound like there should be alot of choice what to use when it comes to software.
Anyone else think this could lead to Steam Support being overwhelmed by people who don't know what they are doing and have broken something?
   
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Default 09-24-2013, 02:00 | posts: 1,560 | Location: Covilhã, Portugal

Yeah, I would wait for some benchmarks and actually see it working before saying "fck you" to Microsoft.

Though this does bring some much needed competition. Microsoft does tend to do some awesome things when they start to lose market share, and Steam knows what gamers want. This will be interesting!
   
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Default 09-24-2013, 07:25 | posts: 941 | Location: London

Gabe still smoking that crack pipe.
   
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Default 09-24-2013, 07:49 | posts: 123 | Location: Brasil

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Yeah, I would wait for some benchmarks and actually see it working before saying "fck you" to Microsoft.

Though this does bring some much needed competition. Microsoft does tend to do some awesome things when they start to lose market share, and Steam knows what gamers want. This will be interesting!
Well, OpenGL is still faster than DX if you know what are you doing (pre D11 at least).
The thing is: I don't know how Nvidia drivers/open-source implementations runs on Linux, but in my experience AMD sucks giant cocks on it. AMD never was famous by his amazing OpenGL support, lol

I hope that change in near future, god, Gaben is truly focusing in global domination. Gotta love that fat guy.
   
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People are so scared of new things and potential change. It's hysterical
   
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Default 09-24-2013, 14:49 | posts: 2,201

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People are so scared of new things and potential change. It's hysterical
Except what's changing here? End of the day all it is is yet another Linux Distro, ok so it's got Valves finger prints all over it but have they really announced anything here that someone who really wanted too couldn;t already do themselves? I mean build a low powered PC running a Linux Distro hooked up to a home cinema systems that when the need arises allows you to ****** content from your more powerful Windows based gaming PC.

I'll admit I haven't tried it, I have no need to but can we honestly sit here and say that we couldn't already do pretty much everything this Steam OS / Steam box combo is promising?
   
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Default 09-24-2013, 15:01 | posts: 300 | Location: New Jersey

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Except what's changing here? End of the day all it is is yet another Linux Distro, ok so it's got Valves finger prints all over it but have they really announced anything here that someone who really wanted too couldn;t already do themselves? I mean build a low powered PC running a Linux Distro hooked up to a home cinema systems that when the need arises allows you to ****** content from your more powerful Windows based gaming PC.

I'll admit I haven't tried it, I have no need to but can we honestly sit here and say that we couldn't already do pretty much everything this Steam OS / Steam box combo is promising?
It's an operating system being built specifically for PC games, they aren't saying they're shutting down your traditional steam client. We have absolutely no in depth details about SteamOS.

Sit tight, take a deep breath, nobody is forcing you to change anything so there's no need to fear, you can stay comfortably in your comfort zone.
I, on the other hand, have been waiting for a gaming OS, so I'm excited.
   
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Default 09-24-2013, 15:09 | posts: 835 | Location: Taipei, Taiwan

O = O.S
[O] = O.S into a box
O+O = 2.O.S = S.O.2 = SOURCE 2

Open software, Open hardware, Open coop development.
   
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