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Post PC Upgrade Need Help - 08-31-2013, 08:54 | posts: 96

Hello, it's been a long time since i've upgraded my PC.

I was thinking about getting a PS4 (pretty much the same reason that made me buy a PS3, Final Fantasy).

However after reading it'll upscale BF4 from 720p i'm not interested anymore (not to mention i can't be guaranteed the game(s) won't be aliased), so i think i'll just upgrade my pc.

The main reason is the CPU which has seen better days, even with overclock it's simply not enough these days specially for new MMOs.

This is what i have right Now:
Q9550
4GB DDR2
GTX570

As you can see it's kinda old.

This is what i have in mind:

3570K
8GB GSkill Sniper DDR3-1866
Unsure about Motherboard, need help here -- mainly something that let's me push the 3570K and is stable (max 150) -- i usually buy ASUS MoBos


I can spend a bit more on the Memory if it makes a big difference in overclock.

Sadly i didn't pay attention to hardware since i bought the Q9550 (has been some years), basically the choice was based on Benchmarks.

Any helps is appreciated, thank you very much.

PS: Is it OK to upgrade now or will there be a new socket/CPU line coming soon? If so should i wait or will this setup last a a few years?
   
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Default 08-31-2013, 09:15 | posts: 376 | Location: Finland

Instead of Ivy Bridge, you should go with a Haswell CPU and a 1150-socket mobo. Asus Z87-Plus or Z87-Pro. A bit cheaper is the H87-Pro motherboard. Add an Intel i5 4670k and you are good to go.

Check the DRAM on Asus' QVL list for the motherboard you choose to make sure it's qualified to work. The 87 chipsets are dual channel, so make sure to get a dual channel kit (two same RAM sticks).
   
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Default 08-31-2013, 11:09 | posts: 96

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Instead of Ivy Bridge, you should go with a Haswell CPU and a 1150-socket mobo. Asus Z87-Plus or Z87-Pro. A bit cheaper is the H87-Pro motherboard. Add an Intel i5 4670k and you are good to go.

Check the DRAM on Asus' QVL list for the motherboard you choose to make sure it's qualified to work. The 87 chipsets are dual channel, so make sure to get a dual channel kit (two same RAM sticks).
Hmm 4670k, i didn't notice this one, thank you.

OK so i've been checking and came up with this:

- G.Skill PC3-17000 2133Mhz Sniper 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3
- ASUS Z87-Pro
- Intel 4670K

Is this ok?

There's two versions of this RAM, one CL11 and one CL9, i know this has to do with overclock, the cost difference is 20, is the difference that much to the point that's worth to pay the difference?

There's also this ones:

- G.SKILL PC3-14900 1866Mhz 8GB Sniper CL9 (2x4GB) DDR3

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Default 08-31-2013, 12:06 | posts: 376 | Location: Finland

CL isn't noticeable in normal usage. It might help up your scores in a memory benchmark though.

Check the RAM product ID against the motherboards QVL to see if they have been qualified. As a dual channel kit, they probably are.
   
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CL isn't noticeable in normal usage. It might help up your scores in a memory benchmark though.

Check the RAM product ID against the motherboards QVL to see if they have been qualified. As a dual channel kit, they probably are.
Yes, they're compatible. Thank you very much.

Guess i'll buy these then.
   
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Default 08-31-2013, 12:39 | posts: 5,417 | Location: FLA,USA

What are the voltages on those kits? I would suggest the CL9 personally but if they are both under 1.6V either will work.
   
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Default 08-31-2013, 12:58 | posts: 376 | Location: Finland

Oh and don't forget a CPU cooler for socket 1150. The stock coolers are not so great for overclocking.
   
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Default 08-31-2013, 13:13 | posts: 26,663 | Location: Hampshire, UK

Great choice on cpu and motherboard.
   
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Default 08-31-2013, 13:21 | posts: 4,265 | Location: Serbia, NS

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Great choice on cpu and motherboard.
Indeed. Now only if he gets a HD 7950 his setup will be complete. Haha...
   
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Default 08-31-2013, 21:59 | posts: 96

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What are the voltages on those kits? I would suggest the CL9 personally but if they are both under 1.6V either will work.
They are exactly 1.6 Volts at CL11

CL9 Ones are 1.65v

Info was taken from official website.

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Oh and don't forget a CPU cooler for socket 1150. The stock coolers are not so great for overclocking.
The cooler that came with the Q9550 was pretty good, it never got past 60C under Heavy Load even in Summer.

But i bought a Xigmatek HDT-S1283 and it never gets past 45C under heavy load with it and OC.

I don't plan to OC the new CPU anytime soon as i believe i won't need to, if i do then i'll get the cooler.

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Indeed. Now only if he gets a HD 7950 his setup will be complete. Haha...
That would be great indeed, unfortunately i can't atm. Besides i'd rather wait for Next Gen ones. The 570 is still awesome even with the bottlenecked caused by the Q9550.
   
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Default 08-31-2013, 22:06 | posts: 4,265 | Location: Serbia, NS

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That would be great indeed, unfortunately i can't atm. Besides i'd rather wait for Next Gen ones. The 570 is still awesome even with the bottlenecked caused by the Q9550.
If you overclock Q9550 should not bottleneck much card like GTX570 but still...

Anyway wait for HD 9xxx then think about GPU upgrade.
   
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Default 08-31-2013, 22:09 | posts: 96

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If you overclock Q9550 should not bottleneck much card like GTX570 but still...
It does, because right now it's running at 3.6Ghz or i get BSOD, however when i use it at 3.8Ghz and run benchmarks, the GPU score is Higher.

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Anyway wait for HD 9xxx then think about GPU upgrade.
That's what i'm waiting for, unless nVIDIA pulls up something nice, such as new feature.
   
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Default 08-31-2013, 22:14 | posts: 26,663 | Location: Hampshire, UK

They won't until next year.
   
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Hmm 4670k, i didn't notice this one, thank you.

OK so i've been checking and came up with this:

- G.Skill PC3-17000 2133Mhz Sniper 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3
- ASUS Z87-Pro
- Intel 4670K

Is this ok?

There's two versions of this RAM, one CL11 and one CL9, i know this has to do with overclock, the cost difference is 20, is the difference that much to the point that's worth to pay the difference?

There's also this ones:

- G.SKILL PC3-14900 1866Mhz 8GB Sniper CL9 (2x4GB) DDR3

Thanks again.
if you can go for at least 2133 on the rams your imc should handle that no problem, If you have a microcenter near you their intel cpu prices cant be beat
   
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Default 08-31-2013, 22:50 | posts: 96

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They won't until next year.
Not a big issue, i can wait.

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if you can go for at least 2133 on the rams your imc should handle that no problem
That's what i'm going for.

- G.Skill PC3-17000 2133Mhz Sniper 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3
- ASUS Z87-Pro
- Intel 4670K
   
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Angry 08-31-2013, 22:51 | posts: 96

oops, sorry for double psot.
   
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