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Steve Ballmer to leave Microsoft CEO post in a year
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Default Steve Ballmer to leave Microsoft CEO post in a year - 08-23-2013, 14:32 | posts: 23,370 | Location: Hoek van Holland, Netherlands

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Microsoft Corp. said Friday that CEO Steve Ballmer plans to retire within the next 12 months, depending on when a successor is chosen.

"There is never a perfect time for this type of transition, but now is the right time," Ballmer said in a statement.

Ballmer said he is retiring earlier than he originally expected because his initial plans would have put his retirement in the middle of the technology company’s massive planned transformation. He said stepping down now allows a new CEO to lead the company in a new direction.

The board of directors has formed a committee, which includes Chairman and Founder Bill Gates, to find a replacement.
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Default 08-23-2013, 14:46 | posts: 794 | Location: ND - US

The meeting room chairs at MS headquarters let out a sigh of relief.

I know a lot of people are going to praise his departure but Steve was probably one of the last originals left in MS so it's sad to see him go. Plus, I liked his over-stimulated demeanor. Still, it'll be interesting to see what the future brings with him gone.

C'ya, Steve. Have fun wading around in your swimming pool full of hundred dollar bills.
   
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Default 08-23-2013, 15:11 | posts: 6,776 | Location: Dubai

Ballmer is leaving?! Best news for Microsoft in a long time
   
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Wooooooohooooooooooo partyyyyyyyyyy!!!!
   
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Default 08-23-2013, 15:24 | posts: 136 | Location: Istanbul

Just take a look at Xbox One, Surface, Windows 8 and leave Microsoft already Ballmer. And never forget what you have done to live messenger, msn space, technet subscriptions and so on.
   
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Default 08-23-2013, 15:24 | posts: 440 | Location: Upstate NY

Choosing to retire is probably the best decisions Ballmer will have made during his tenure as CEO
   
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I wonder how much the Windows 8 debacle had to do with his departure.

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Default 08-23-2013, 16:53 | posts: 1,209 | Location: UK

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I wonder how much the Windows 8 debacle had to do with his departure.
Not really a debacle, just a few disgruntled Windows users because of a button.

Windows is not the only product Microsoft release - they got billions coming in from all angles and a ton of products and services, not to mention the global supply chain.

Exits at this level are planned years in advance; it's not like working at a coffee shop where you can be replaced in 24 hours and the manager can carry out your duties until the end of the shift.

Steve has had a very good run, best of luck to him, not that he'll need it.
   
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Default 08-23-2013, 17:28 | posts: 24,021 | Location: NZ

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Not really a debacle, just a few disgruntled Windows users because of a button.
13% user migration is very much a debacle. Sales are worse than Vista, and Vista was bad.


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Windows is not the only product Microsoft release - they got billions coming in from all angles and a ton of products and services, not to mention the global supply chain.
You don't say.....?

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Exits at this level are planned years in advance; it's not like working at a coffee shop where you can be replaced in 24 hours and the manager can carry out your duties until the end of the shift.
Sure, that's basically what Dan Rather said after he was pushed from CBS for slandering George Bush - "oh I was going to retire anyway"..

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Finally!!!
   
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Default 08-23-2013, 21:42 | posts: 13,418 | Location: USA

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13% user migration is very much a debacle. Sales are worse than Vista, and Vista was bad.
Are you sure about that?

http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-more-...ld-7000014957/
   
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Default 08-23-2013, 21:47 | posts: 9,103 | Location: Toledo

MS stock jumped 9% after this announcement. With that said Windows 8 was not a "debacle". Casual users generally love it. Only people who are stubborn and used to doing things one way forever don't think it's an improvement.
   
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Default 08-23-2013, 21:56 | posts: 5,823 | Location: Wolverhampton/United Kingdom

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MS stock jumped 9% after this announcement. With that said Windows 8 was not a "debacle". Casual users generally love it. Only people who are stubborn and used to doing things one way forever don't think it's an improvement.
No no and little more no.

Since Windows 8 has been widely available and pre installed on 90% of desktops and laptops sold, I have literally lost count of how many I have been given to reformat with and I quote "The old style this thing is useless" a few I have installed the third party apps like Start8, etc and some have been happy with that.

I know I am just one person and there are thousands out there still using and happy with W8, and it is a very efficient, snappy, and well optimized OS, but you have to admit Microsoft made a massive mistake with W8 and "New UI".

Its just clunky, and needless and god damn horrid to look at. If they really wanted to have people use it they should of installed a better tutorial on the OS to show people how and why its better.

Its like if car manufacturers suddenly thought you know the standard, from left to right Gear, Brake, Accelerator, configuration everyone is used to lets change that and put it the other way round. You know what happens, people crash or simply don't buy it.
   
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Default 08-23-2013, 22:36 | posts: 16,434 | Location: US East Coast

Shareholders wanted Ballmer gone and I'm sure he was well aware of it. The fact Shareholders are now sueing MS over [unlawful] misrepresentation of financial data (namely, hiding WinRT sales figures to give the impression that WinRT is selling better than it actually is).

Ballmer even went so far as to say that his leaving is in the best interest of MS.... Under Ballmer, MS had a lot of failures. The Xbox "RRoD" issue. The KinOne and KinTwo debacle.... He let the mobile computing market (which MS dominated at one time) slip away. Zune was handled horribly wrong. Windows Phone has been handled very poorly. Vista had a late launch.... The company has stumbled along in the consumer market for the last 13 years. They need someone in charge that's willing to respond to (or even create) emerging market trends not simply ignore them until it's too late.

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Sales figures and usage figures are very different.... The usage figures presented by web based tracking show a much lower usage count than MS wants people to believe (which is why they won't divulge usage data).


   
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Default 08-23-2013, 22:40 | posts: 24,021 | Location: NZ

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Yep.




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Five reasons why Windows 8 has failed

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The numbers are in and they don't lie. Windows 8 market adoption numbers are well behind Microsoft's greatest previous operating system failure, Vista.
http://www.zdnet.com/five-reasons-wh...ed-7000012104/

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Default 08-23-2013, 23:20 | posts: 18,403 | Location: New Jersey, USA

Did he have a hand in windows me? If so let him burn in hell
   
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Default 08-23-2013, 23:27 | posts: 1,209 | Location: UK

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13% user migration is very much a debacle. Sales are worse than Vista, and Vista was bad.

Sure, that's basically what Dan Rather said after he was pushed from NBC for slandering George Bush - "oh I was going to retire anyway"..
Okay, I'll put the Win8 down for now - I was just clarifying there is a great deal more to Microsoft than a desktop operating system update and you can't judge a CEO for something which falls under the responsibility of the person who actually deployed it.

And, hate to disagree with you on this, but a CEO of Microsoft is a lot more entrenched and harder to replace than a newscaster. I mean, I could read a teleprompter, it's not hard y'know.


I had to look up who Dan Rather is, as I don't watch american teevee or any other teevee.

Pretty much gave it up after I got broadband 8 years ago.
   
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Default 08-23-2013, 23:30 | posts: 24,021 | Location: NZ

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Wow Zednet's credibility just took a severe beating. They really need to hire some proper journo's instead of bloggers.


First we have THE TRUTH from a real editor;





Followed by some major damage control by "freelance blogger" Mary Joe Foley.

According to her profile:
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Mary Jo Foley has covered the tech industry for 25 years for a variety of publications, including ZDNet, eWeek and Baseline. She is the author of Microsoft 2.0: How Microsoft plans to stay relevant in the post-Gates era (John Wiley & Sons, 2008).
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I do not own Microsoft stock or stock in any of its partners or competitors. I have no business ventures that are sponsored by Microsoft or any of its partners or competitors.
According to Mary Jo, W8 sales are booming... Wow 100 MILLION? (sure sounds like a lot....a lot like a spin)




And then some slight backtracking....




Followed by a 15min interview where the most glaringly obvious question was never asked: WHY are you retiring?




And......




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Q: So when did you finally decide?


Ballmer:

Officially, a day or two ago.
We had a board call.
....................... we finalized that this was the right path forward.

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Default 08-23-2013, 23:33 | posts: 4,957 | Location: UK

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C'ya, Steve. Have fun wading around in your swimming pool full of hundred dollar bills.
My thoughts too lol

I used to work at a posh boat marina as an IT tech and shortly before I worked there Steve Ballmer had visited. His boat was so big he just leaves it out in the ocean and takes a smaller (still big..) yacht out like Thunderbird 2 and sailed that in to the marina..
   
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No no and little more no.

Since Windows 8 has been widely available and pre installed on 90% of desktops and laptops sold, I have literally lost count of how many I have been given to reformat with and I quote "The old style this thing is useless" a few I have installed the third party apps like Start8, etc and some have been happy with that.

I know I am just one person and there are thousands out there still using and happy with W8, and it is a very efficient, snappy, and well optimized OS, but you have to admit Microsoft made a massive mistake with W8 and "New UI".

Its just clunky, and needless and god damn horrid to look at. If they really wanted to have people use it they should of installed a better tutorial on the OS to show people how and why its better.

Its like if car manufacturers suddenly thought you know the standard, from left to right Gear, Brake, Accelerator, configuration everyone is used to lets change that and put it the other way round. You know what happens, people crash or simply don't buy it.
Clunky no, "needless and horrid to look at" quite subjective. Once you understand that metro is simply a different start menu, you start to understand that Windows 8 is a logical next step. People literally just can't comprehend when something they use often is changed. Change = automatically worse in the world of computing, probably because people have a hard enough time as it is using them (somehow). With that said, I don't know who your customers are, but I'm around college students all the time, and I've rarely found people that didn't think Windows 8 was better.

Also, I know how Pill is on a roll with showing how Windows 8 is more of a failure, but going by adoption rate isn't really a fair comparison given PC sales are down overall. Tablets and smartphones are king now.
   
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Clunky no, "needless and horrid to look at" quite subjective. Once you understand that metro is simply a different start menu, you start to understand that Windows 8 is a logical next step. People literally just can't comprehend when something they use often is changed. Change = automatically worse in the world of computing, probably because people have a hard enough time as it is using them (somehow). With that said, I don't know who your customers are, but I'm around college students all the time, and I've rarely found people that didn't think Windows 8 was better.

Also, I know how Pill is on a roll with showing how Windows 8 is more of a failure, but going by adoption rate isn't really a fair comparison given PC sales are down overall. Tablets and smartphones are king now.
Like I said, I am only one person and no matter how many laptops, and desktops I have reformatted to W7 (someone actually wanted XP back lol they liked the color hehe) that does not 100% say that W8 is a failure but I have been in computing now now for almost fifteen years and I have never seen so many people not wanting W8 on their new devices, with how bad Vista was as well I never had that many people ask me to reformat back to XP and after SP2 it was an decent OS.

Also, I never said change was a bad thing, it just has to be done right for it to be accepted.

Change in the PC world is great, that's what makes a PC a PC, its personal to you, its customized to you. Changing out parts from newer ones is one of the best things there is about the PC, you should know that.

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I will 100% agree that tablets and smartphones have damaged Windows a lot!

here is bill gates avoiding talking about Ipad LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLUSnPB08kc
   
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r.

Also, I know how Pill is on a roll with showing how Windows 8 is more of a failure, but going by adoption rate isn't really a fair comparison given PC sales are down overall. Tablets and smartphones are king now.
Ballmer thought the same way.
The thing is, desktop sales may have slowed but that doesn't mean there are less of them. Every person who has a smartphone also has a PC/Laptop.....and that's not including the commercial sector.

One reason (just one) for example that XP users didn't flock to Vista was because a 64bit OS was unnecessary at that time. Things were different by the time W7 came around, 4GB ram was min. For those with W7 right now there really isn't the same incentive or necessity to upgrade.

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Clunky no, "needless and horrid to look at" quite subjective. Once you understand that metro is simply a different start menu, you start to understand that Windows 8 is a logical next step. People literally just can't comprehend when something they use often is changed. Change = automatically worse in the world of computing, probably because people have a hard enough time as it is using them (somehow). With that said, I don't know who your customers are, but I'm around college students all the time, and I've rarely found people that didn't think Windows 8 was better.

Also, I know how Pill is on a roll with showing how Windows 8 is more of a failure, but going by adoption rate isn't really a fair comparison given PC sales are down overall. Tablets and smartphones are king now.
Had to "fix" a W8 laptop the other day for a co-worker (his son installed a bunch of crapware that slowed an already slow laptop down to a crawl) and there are actually a few features that I do like on it but still seems a bit half-assed at times.
   
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Did he have a hand in windows me? If so let him burn in hell
He was the in-coming CEO at WinME's launch but wasn't responsible for it. Prior to becoming CEO, he had no hand in any products.

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Wow Zednet's credibility just took a severe beating. They really need to hire some proper journo's instead of bloggers.


First we have an article by "freelance blogger" Mary Joe Foley.

According to her profile:
According to Mary Jo, W8 sales are booming... Wow 100 MILLION? (sure sounds like a lot....a lot like a spin)

Followed by a 15min interview where the most glaringly obvious question was never asked: WHY are you retiring?

And......
Sorry Pill, had to remove the images....lol

The reason he's retiring? I doubt he'd even actually admit to. With Shareholders suing MS for misrepresenting financial data and the possibility of an S.E.C. investigation....I'm sure the board did the responsible thing and offered Ballmer the option of "retirement" or replacement....


   
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Default 08-24-2013, 06:04 | posts: 3,711

Pill never ceases to amaze me for taking things out of context due to (probably) not understanding the context at all, especially with that Mary Jo bit. =b

As per your own screenshot, Pill, it read:
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Microsoft officials said on May 6 that ...
Microsoft officials said that, not Mary Jo.
So whatever her conclusion was in that article was solely based on the numbers the Microsofties gave her at that time.

Also, that article was published around 2 months later after the article that slagged Win8 sales was published.
Hardly 'damage control', much less of it being 'major'.

And 'backtracking' just because of something Ballmer said publicly on 2008?
Wut?




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