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Need help 2 choices: 7950 or gtx 680
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Lightbulb Need help 2 choices: 7950 or gtx 680 - 08-21-2013, 20:09 | posts: 52 | Location: Aveiro Portugal

hi i rma other month a 7870 xt because had coil whine.
Now i want to buy a new card mainly for battlefield 4.
What of those i should get?

From overclockersdotcodotuk:

MSI GeForce GTX 680 OC Twin Frozr 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card

http://www.********************/show...odid=GX-156-MS

MSI HD 7950 Twin Frozr III Boost Edition 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **NEW REVISION** with FREE GAMES

http://www.********************/show...odid=GX-190-MS

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Default 08-21-2013, 20:44 | posts: 1,600 | Location: Unknown

Holy smokes! GTX 680 for 215.99
   
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Default 08-21-2013, 21:17 | posts: 26,817 | Location: Hampshire, UK

I'd probably go for that gtx 680.
   
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Default 08-21-2013, 21:23 | posts: 7,859

Not currently in stock, so you'd have to wait until the 30th. I'd probably grab the 680 for that sort of money though.
   
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Default 08-21-2013, 21:36 | posts: 52 | Location: Aveiro Portugal

thanks for replys. im an amd fan, but seems the gtx is the better choise
   
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Default 08-21-2013, 21:39 | posts: 4,362 | Location: Serbia, NS

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thanks for replys. im an amd fan, but seems the gtx is the better choise
In this case, yes it is.
   
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Default 09-02-2013, 19:22 | posts: 52 | Location: Aveiro Portugal

TWO DAYS FOR 7950 I WILL POST SOME BENCHES. The gtx deal expired :c
   
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Default 09-02-2013, 20:35 | posts: 5,255 | Location: Netherlands

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Holy smokes! GTX 680 for 215.99
Yep, the price dropped pretty big.
   
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Default 09-02-2013, 20:36 | posts: 5,255 | Location: Netherlands

To bad man, i hope that card lasts you longer then mine did.
   
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Default 09-02-2013, 21:07 | posts: 52 | Location: Aveiro Portugal

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To bad man, i hope that card lasts you longer then mine did.
its a new revision and the cooler is better than stocks at least two years
   
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Default 09-02-2013, 21:09 | posts: 5,255 | Location: Netherlands

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its a new revision and the cooler is better than stocks at least two years
Mine was a revision too, i had the V2.

After 2 days it just stopped working and the card was reported defective.

But this obviously doesn't say sh*t, you will be fine.
   
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Default 09-02-2013, 23:25 | posts: 465

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its a new revision and the cooler is better than stocks at least two years
I have the same card, MSI TF3 and has quite bad coil whine. I am debating whether to RMA it or not
   
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Default 09-03-2013, 21:56 | posts: 52 | Location: Aveiro Portugal

mine are good im getting 1200/1400 1.25v stable
   
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Default 09-04-2013, 15:24 | posts: 26,817 | Location: Hampshire, UK

I just tried to bench 3dmark11 with 1200/1400 1.225v/1.6v, 50% fan speed.

PScore 9858
Graphics Score 10768
Physics Score 7954
Combined Score 8211

Max temp after a couple of runs 59C. Now I'm tempted to run this as a 24/7 overclock...

EDIT: my physics score used to be around 82xx, it's down 300 points for whatever reason hmm Checked bios, RAM is running 1600mhz with correct timings, just like before, also CPU definitely is at 4.5ghz. But I'm 300 points short, any tips?

EDIT2: managed to get my Physics score up to around 8050 by changing some secondary RAM timings from auto to what they should be, but that's still some 180 points down from what it used to be. I'm baffled. For whatever reason I get less physics points on the p8z77-v pro than on the old p8z68-v lx. weird.

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Default 09-04-2013, 18:19 | posts: 18,961 | Location: New Jersey, USA

Raising system ram speed to 2133 will help your score. I had 1600 rams before and always clocked the ram for benches
   
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Default 09-04-2013, 18:22 | posts: 26,817 | Location: Hampshire, UK

yeah, but I used to run 1600mhz before too and the score was almost 200 points higher. So I'm getting less performance with same hardware, motherboard being the only change. I'll try to oc the ram, but the ripjaws x aren't supposed to be good overclockers.
   
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Default 09-04-2013, 18:25 | posts: 18,961 | Location: New Jersey, USA

My ddr3 1600 were old ripjaws and hit 2133 no problem. You are going to have to loosen your main timings a bit
   
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Default 09-04-2013, 18:38 | posts: 26,817 | Location: Hampshire, UK

Trying 1866 now with 10-10-10-25 I'll post back in a minute, still doesn't explain why 1600mhz scores less.

EDIT: Scored 8311 Physics score with the RAM at 1866 and 10-10-10-25 (1600 ran with 9-9-9-24). So slightly more than I ever scored with ram at stock speeds. Now I'm thinking I'll just keep this RAM overclock. If it dies, I'll just buy new RAM. Yeah, f*ck it. One thing, I used to overclock RAM back in the day of Athlon64 Winchester, haven't really done it since, I'm assuming running the ram at 1866 with 10-10-10-25 will be ok, correct? With stock 1.5v.

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Default 09-04-2013, 23:04 | posts: 18,961 | Location: New Jersey, USA

I could run my old set stock timings 7-8-7-24 2t around 10-11-10-32 1t stock volts was 1.6v
   
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Default 09-04-2013, 23:08 | posts: 26,817 | Location: Hampshire, UK

at 2133mhz? that's not bad. I'm happy with 1866 10-10-10-25-1t for now. Won't push it any further.
   
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Default 09-04-2013, 23:31 | posts: 18,961 | Location: New Jersey, USA

if you get restarts its a timing or voltage problem, I passed memtest, p95 blend etc but ocassional restarts at 2133. never quite got it 100% stable
   
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Default 09-04-2013, 23:44 | posts: 26,817 | Location: Hampshire, UK

haven't really stressed it enough, but ran about 10 instances of 3dmark11 and a bit of prime blend and all good. Will run a longer prime blend later just to feel more assured about things.
   
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