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Default new build - 08-09-2013, 03:13 | posts: 285

ok i give up , i took some good beating

if you want make me a system with the new stuff ,, up to 800 $ maybe
more or less , then you help me ocing ?

maybe that pc mech place is getting older but i have been with them
since year 2000 its the friendship i guess but those boards eclap
showed with the ASRock Z87 Extreme4 and so are prety cool they look
better than the z77
come back all of you lets be friends and ill stay here , no need for older boards

i would still need to check what is in the store .

am just a poor old guy i get paranoid spending all those money
   
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Default 08-09-2013, 03:31 | posts: 8,471 | Location: London, Ontario

I can assure you that if you want the most value for all those monies, here is where you want to be. The last thread got a bit out of hand because our more veteran members can be a bit touchy when they feel they're being called out; we've had a wave of trolls lately. I'm sure everyone can look past it and give you a solid list of parts to choose from.
   
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Default 08-09-2013, 03:47 | posts: 17,141 | Location: New Jersey, USA

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I can assure you that if you want the most value for all those monies, here is where you want to be. The last thread got a bit out of hand because our more veteran members can be a bit touchy when they feel they're being called out; we've had a wave of trolls lately. I'm sure everyone can look past it and give you a solid list of parts to choose from.
If you saw the pms I got right after that thread closed you would be singing a new tune.
At op I have helped manny people on these forum but I am going to refrain any advice that I know would be a benefit to you. Good luck
   
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Default 08-09-2013, 04:20 | posts: 285

what pm? show it here , u called me anus and the other called me an ass
so what i was with the other web for 15 years and made 3 pcs with them
is loyalty a crime ? maybe they got older , i can be loyal to u also
and defend you on other forums
get over it and get a new start , eclap also show pm i never insult anyone
ever

you called me all those things where i never said bad words to you and
its ok i can start over , people fight all the time now days big deal?
i never provoked or flamed .
anyway make you decision no need to get admins here
if you guys will black list me ill leave . no need for a ban
if you all would go cool again i stay here coz ill need to oc with you after
i buy
   
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Default 08-09-2013, 04:40 | posts: 2,845 | Location: Tampa Bay, FL

I will "go cool" again.
   
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Default 08-09-2013, 05:20 | posts: 1,244 | Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Let's leave the old stuff in the old thread, don't carry it here, or it'll turn into the same.

I assume that you're going to use your old case, and your corsair tx 750W PSU.

Intel i5 4670K ~$250
Cooler: Corsair h80i ~$80
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA -Z87X-D3H ~$150
or
Motherboard: ASUS Z87-A ~$150
or
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ~$140

Ram: Can't really go wrong with a 2x4GB (8GB) DDR-3 1600 from Corsair, Kingston, G-skill. All are pretty good. ~$80. Go with 1866 or 2133 if you want for another ~$15-20. Some people say it makes no difference, others swear by it. You shouldn't get flamed by anyone either way.

Video Card: EVGA GTX 760 SC 2GB ACX cooler ~$270
or
Video Card: Sapphire AMD 7950 3GB Vapor X cooler ~$300
or
Video Card: ASUS GTX 670 2GB Direct CU II ~$320

As far as your video card choices go, look in your other thread at the first 2 pages for pros/cons, before all the flame wars started. Let's not get into that again. In the end, any of those 3 choices will be good.

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Default 08-09-2013, 13:23 | posts: 8,471 | Location: London, Ontario

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Let's leave the old stuff in the old thread, don't carry it here, or it'll turn into the same.

I assume that you're going to use your old case, and your corsair tx 750W PSU.

Intel i5 4670K ~$250
Cooler: Corsair h80i ~$80
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA -Z87X-D3H ~$150
or
Motherboard: ASUS Z87-A ~$150
or
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ~$140

Ram: Can't really go wrong with a 2x4GB (8GB) DDR-3 1600 from Corsair, Kingston, G-skill. All are pretty good. ~$80. Go with 1866 or 2133 if you want for another ~$15-20. Some people say it makes no difference, others swear by it. You shouldn't get flamed by anyone either way.

Video Card: EVGA GTX 460 SC 2GB ACX cooler ~$270
or
Video Card: Sapphire AMD 7950 3GB Vapor X cooler ~$300
or
Video Card: ASUS GTX 670 2GB Direct CU II ~$320

As far as your video card choices go, look in your other thread at the first 2 pages for pros/cons, before all the flame wars started. Let's not get into that again. In the end, any of those 3 choices will be good.
460? I think you meant 760.
   
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Default 08-09-2013, 15:54 | posts: 6,677

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Intel i5 4670K ~$250
Cooler: Corsair h80i ~$80
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA -Z87X-D3H ~$150
or
Motherboard: ASUS Z87-A ~$150
or
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ~$140

Just to add: I'd probably aim for the Asrock motherboard out of those three. While I'm a big fan of Gigabyte and will probably continue to use their motherboards for myself, both they and Asus have stuck with a weaker onboard solution in the form of the old ALC892 as opposed to Asrock with the ALC1150 (built in headphone AMP rated for up to 600ohms as well as a few other features). While this doesn't bother me as I use external equipment, it's worth noting for people using onboard.
   
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Default 08-09-2013, 19:25 | posts: 285

i will keep these

the case in case i found new fans for it
the hard disk
the monitor
the power supply
   
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Default 08-09-2013, 22:48 | posts: 4,650 | Location: FLA,USA

Here is my suggestion I'm assuming you have a copy of Windows to transfer to the new computer

   
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Default 08-09-2013, 23:49 | posts: 1,244 | Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada

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460? I think you meant 760.
Yeah, typo
   
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Default 08-10-2013, 01:57 | posts: 285

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Here is my suggestion I'm assuming you have a copy of Windows to transfer to the new computer

no ill keep my hard drive so i will be getting win 8 anyway

lets get this from new egg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...scrollFullInfo

what with the so many coons ?
and now you guys changed to the 670 ? i will never get a 6xxx when
the 7xxx is out
what happened to the ocied 7950 project
   
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Default 08-10-2013, 02:18 | posts: 15,585 | Location: US East Coast

Take Newegg reviews with a grain of salt. Most reviews are written by novice users.


   
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Default 08-10-2013, 02:38 | posts: 285

which is best of the 3 ?

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA -Z87X-D3H ~$150
or
Motherboard: ASUS Z87-A ~$150
or
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ~$140
   
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Default 08-10-2013, 03:28 | posts: 15,585 | Location: US East Coast

None of them...


   
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Default 08-10-2013, 05:36 | posts: 1,244 | Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Go with the ASRock. Anas, if you actually looked at the differences between a GTX 670, or GTX 760, they actually have the same GPU, with the 760 having 1 less shader cluster than the 670. In reality, think of the 7 series with a GK 104 GPU in this way:

GTX 770 is really like a GTX 685
GTX 680
GTX 670
GTX 760 is really like a GTX 665

They all use the Kepler GK 104 Core, with the GTX 770 and GTX 680 having no shader clusters disabled, and the 670 with 1 cluster disabled, 760 having 2 clusters disabled. That's why people are also suggesting a GTX 670 now into the discussion. Unlike AMD going from 6 series to 7 series, those were actual changes in the GPU core.

Like I said before though, any of the three cards (760, 7950, 670) will be good, just depends on how it all fits into your budget.

@Sykosis: You use an ASrock Z77 Extreme 4, why would you say the ASrock Z87 Extreme 4 is a poor choice?

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Default 08-10-2013, 13:34 | posts: 4,650 | Location: FLA,USA

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no ill keep my hard drive so i will be getting win 8 anyway

lets get this from new egg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...scrollFullInfo

what with the so many coons ?
and now you guys changed to the 670 ? i will never get a 6xxx when
the 7xxx is out
what happened to the ocied 7950 project

The first topic you started was 760 or 7950 between those I say 7950 (and its still a good choice) but now your asking for complete suggestions in that price range the 670 is the better choice of course I'm a bit bias look at my specs. Plus the 670 I suggested is a custom board and cooler it is made for overclocking and as long as you don't mod the card (Hotwire) or mod the VBIOS you can overclock all you want ASUS will honor their warranty. All of the 7xx cards are the same GPU core as the 6xx (exception 780 it's a cut down Titan) in other words the technology in the 760 is just as old as 670 only difference is GPU boost 2.0 the 670 is a clear winner out of the box and a simple light overclock to say ~1160/6800 and its running circles around 680's and nipping at the heals of the 770. Plus you have already expressed desire to go Nvidia this time around so we are suggesting the best card for the money.
   
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Default 08-10-2013, 14:26 | posts: 15,585 | Location: US East Coast

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@Sykosis: You use an ASrock Z77 Extreme 4, why would you say the ASrock Z87 Extreme 4 is a poor choice?
I didn't say it's a poor choice. OP asked which is "best" and if we're being honest here....none of them are "best". As is typical, each board comes with advantages and disadvantages over the others.

I've been using ASRock for the last 7 years without a single hiccup (that wasn't user induced) unlike every Asus and Gigabyte board I've ever used that failed prematurely. Quite frankly, due to past experience, I've become a bit biased in favor of ASRock. I've had nothing but rock solid boards from them consistently and my experience with their tech support, when needed, has been second to none. BUT, the OP shouldn't be picking a board based on MY past experience....he should be picking a board based on it's features and price.


   
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Default 08-10-2013, 14:48 | posts: 24,315 | Location: Hampshire UK

I have used many Asus boards and only had one fail on me, but that was due to the PSU crapping out and taking the board with it. I'm a big Asus fan, never had any problems with it. ASRock are solid too and priced well. I'm never buying another Gigabyte product ever, had 4 Gigabyte products in recent years and they were all broken on arrival.
   
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Default 08-10-2013, 15:11 | posts: 1,244 | Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Thanks of the clarification Sykosis.
   
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Default 08-10-2013, 18:07 | posts: 15,585 | Location: US East Coast

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I have used many Asus boards and only had one fail on me, but that was due to the PSU crapping out and taking the board with it. I'm a big Asus fan, never had any problems with it. ASRock are solid too and priced well. I'm never buying another Gigabyte product ever, had 4 Gigabyte products in recent years and they were all broken on arrival.
Asus K7M - southbridge chip failed. Asus refused to replace under warranty claiming that installation by end-user violated the terms of the warranty.
Asus K7V-266 - misc failures across 4 boards
Asus K8V-X - wouldn't post with IDE harddrives connected. Asus tech support blamed harddrives, PSU, IDE cables, case, optical drives, chipset drivers. Finally ended with Asus voiding the warranty when I refused to accept their excuses and demanded an RMA.
Asus P7P55D-E LX - was an Asus refurb/recert board. was physically warped and never stable.

That's my history with Asus motherboards. Similar history with Gigabyte....


   
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Default 08-10-2013, 18:24 | posts: 7

On newegg you can get the 4670k and the z87-A for $310 as a combo deal. here

I just bought one as well.

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I have used many Asus boards and only had one fail on me, but that was due to the PSU crapping out and taking the board with it. I'm a big Asus fan, never had any problems with it. ASRock are solid too and priced well. I'm never buying another Gigabyte product ever, had 4 Gigabyte products in recent years and they were all broken on arrival.
Strange had more problems with Asus then Gigabyte,Abit on the other hand was a different story.
   
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Asus K7M - southbridge chip failed. Asus refused to replace under warranty claiming that installation by end-user violated the terms of the warranty.
Asus K7V-266 - misc failures across 4 boards
Asus K8V-X - wouldn't post with IDE harddrives connected. Asus tech support blamed harddrives, PSU, IDE cables, case, optical drives, chipset drivers. Finally ended with Asus voiding the warranty when I refused to accept their excuses and demanded an RMA.
Asus P7P55D-E LX - was an Asus refurb/recert board. was physically warped and never stable.

That's my history with Asus motherboards. Similar history with Gigabyte....
That was 10 years ago dude....admittedly I've had a couple of ASUS boards die early, but when they work, they work well....

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Default 08-11-2013, 04:11 | posts: 285

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we've had a wave of trolls lately.
i didnt come for that and thanks to eclap for coming back i hop TK
also will get over it .

Quote:
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Go with the ASRock. Anas, if you actually looked at the differences between a GTX 670, or GTX 760, they actually have the same GPU, with the 760 having 1 less shader cluster than the 670. In reality, think of the 7 series with a GK 104 GPU in this way:

GTX 770 is really like a GTX 685
GTX 680
GTX 670
GTX 760 is really like a GTX 665

They all use the Kepler GK 104 Core, with the GTX 770 and GTX 680 having no shader clusters disabled, and the 670 with 1 cluster disabled, 760 having 2 clusters disabled. That's why people are also suggesting a GTX 670 now into the discussion. Unlike AMD going from 6 series to 7 series, those were actual changes in the GPU core.

Like I said before though, any of the three cards (760, 7950, 670) will be good, just depends on how it all fits into your budget.

@Sykosis: You use an ASrock Z77 Extreme 4, why would you say the ASrock Z87 Extreme 4 is a poor choice?
well i had my lesson with the rebagged nvidia stuff with the 9800gtx+
7950 is better ill check this oc plans and i like the ASrock Z77 Extreme 4
it looks good and the name also

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I didn't say it's a poor choice. OP asked which is "best" and if we're being honest here....none of them are "best". As is typical, each board comes with advantages and disadvantages over the others.

I've been using ASRock for the last 7 years without a single hiccup (that wasn't user induced) unlike every Asus and Gigabyte board I've ever used that failed prematurely. Quite frankly, due to past experience, I've become a bit biased in favor of ASRock. I've had nothing but rock solid boards from them consistently and my experience with their tech support, when needed, has been second to none. BUT, the OP shouldn't be picking a board based on MY past experience....he should be picking a board based on it's features and price.
yes i figured this by my own

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On newegg you can get the 4670k and the z87-A for $310 as a combo deal. here

I just bought one as well.
i need check the local store not internet
   
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