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Samsung Caught Artificially Boosting Galaxy S4 Benchmark Results
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Default Samsung Caught Artificially Boosting Galaxy S4 Benchmark Results - 07-31-2013, 11:28 | posts: 13,439 | Location: USA

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As a company, Samsung offers plenty of products for the smartphone world to consider, but while its range is wide and covers most areas of the market, its flagship models derive from the Galaxy S series. One thing you mightíve picked up from every new Galaxy S device, including the Galaxy S4, is that when it comes around to benchmarks, the new model always performs significantly better on paper than its predecessor. This, in terms of digital evolution, perhaps stands to reason, but AnandTech has done a little digging, and discovered evidence that appears to suggest the latest and greatest Samsung Galaxy S4 may have been tweaked to show favorable numbers in the benchmark tests, even if this doesnít necessarily translate to real-world performance improvements. Now, we know that there are limitations on how much a smartphone can offer year-in, year-out, and with each new model of smartphone, vendors are finding it very hard to trump the preceding device for features and specs. It has been claimed that the Galaxy S 4 saves its fastest graphics chip speeds for specific benchmarking apps, while games and apps see much less impressive performance from the companyís Exynos 5 Octa-core processor. The SoC, which is only found in certain variants of the Galaxy S4, sounds very impressive on paper, and the benchmark figures have done its credibility no harm whatsoever. Yet back in the real world, it would seem that apps donít enjoy the same kinds of power, and although it would make sense for Samsung to want to reflect its poster child in as positive a light as possible, this would seem a pretty underhanded way ensuring so.

Beyond3D users were first to pick up on the inconsistencies, with the Galaxy 4's GPU clocked at up to 533MHz on some benchmarking apps. Yet, over time, it was shown that the graphics chip ran at around 480MHz, which I think youíll agree, is more than a slight discrepancy. The same kind of behavior has also been shown with the CPU benchmarks and real-world usage, not only for the Exynos 5 model, but also the Qualcomm Snapdragon iteration. Tailoring the numbers to show something is when it, in fact, isnít, is not the kind of behavior we would expect from a company of Samsungís stature. The Korean outfit has yet to comment on the situation, but one suspects an uproar on the subject is nigh.
http://www.redmondpie.com/samsung-ca...hmark-results/


Naughty Samsung.
   
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Default 07-31-2013, 11:35 | posts: 6,838 | Location: Dubai, UAE / London, UK

I wouldn't at all be surprised at their evil doings!
   
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Default 07-31-2013, 12:55 | posts: 26,337 | Location: Hampshire UK

thing is, I can beat all of their advertised scores in any benchmark anyway

EDIT: just read that article, all they're saying is that the gpu runs at 533mhz in some benchmarks and then in some apps/games it'll downclock to 480mhz. That's pretty standard behavior.

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Default 07-31-2013, 13:49 | posts: 7,122 | Location: Above Earth in a Big Rocket Ship

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thing is, I can beat all of their advertised scores in any benchmark anyway

EDIT: just read that article, all they're saying is that the gpu runs at 533mhz in some benchmarks and then in some apps/games it'll downclock to 480mhz. That's pretty standard behavior.
Well once again we have some random tech site putting a spin on the actual content. Anandtech's original article sounds no where near as malicious as every other tech site linking to them. The click bait **** is getting ridiculous.

Anandtech Title: "Looking at CPU/GPU Benchmark Optimizations in the Galaxy S4"

Redmondgarbage Title: "Samsung Caught Artificially Boosting Galaxy S4 Benchmark Results"

Also most sites are completely leaving out the fact that the S4 runs at max clock speed with most benchmarks not specifically listed anyway.
   
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Default 07-31-2013, 14:26 | posts: 503 | Location: Toronto

My S4 belongs in the garbage bin after seeing the NVIDIA Ira demo on a 2W Kepler.
   
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Default 07-31-2013, 15:43 | posts: 5,522 | Location: Switzerland

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My S4 belongs in the garbage bin after seeing the NVIDIA Ira demo on a 2W Kepler.
well you have time, this Tegra5 will be released in 1year, it is not even in production and yet they use prediction at 1ghz+ on a 192SP Kepler with a cooler as large of GK110 cores .. Forget to see it run at this speed on a smartphone, maybe at 400-500mhz, and coupled with LPDDR3 shared, i fear the gpu performance will not be as good as they want to show it.

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Default 07-31-2013, 17:08 | posts: 19,054 | Location: Toronto, Canada

Here's Samsung's official response:
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Under ordinary conditions, the GALAXY S4 has been designed to allow a maximum GPU frequency of 533MHz. However, the maximum GPU frequency is lowered to 480MHz for certain gaming apps that may cause an overload, when they are used for a prolonged period of time in full-screen mode. Meanwhile, a maximum GPU frequency of 533MHz is applicable for running apps that are usually used in full-screen mode, such as the S Browser, Gallery, Camera, Video Player, and certain benchmarking apps, which also demand substantial performance.
The maximum GPU frequencies for the GALAXY S4 have been varied to provide optimal user experience for our customers, and were not intended to improve certain benchmark results.
Source: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/07...-certain-apps/

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Default 07-31-2013, 20:26 | posts: 7,490 | Location: GTA, Canada

Dynamic clocks that don't allow the maximum in gaming but allow it in benchmarks?

   
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no point in getting an 8-Core CPU or Quad one for a mobile device esp. for texting, emails, few apps left and right.. literally no point especially that if you wanna game the phone will easily overheat. The difference btw a 4 cores and 8 cores CPU on a mobile device is probably minimal to non-existant in real life scenarios.

I played few games like angry bird on my mobile and my device gets above 40C quickly and is a lil too warm to the touch.
   
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Default 07-31-2013, 21:20 | posts: 5,522 | Location: Switzerland

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Dynamic clocks that don't allow the maximum in gaming but allow it in benchmarks?
benchmakrs are really bad on mobile.. no warm up, they are too short and never use fully the processor and gpu as they should. so basically you will not overload anything with them.
   
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Default 07-31-2013, 23:03 | posts: 4,267 | Location: MI, USA

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no point in getting an 8-Core CPU or Quad one for a mobile device esp. for texting, emails, few apps left and right.. literally no point especially that if you wanna game the phone will easily overheat. The difference btw a 4 cores and 8 cores CPU on a mobile device is probably minimal to non-existant in real life scenarios.

I played few games like angry bird on my mobile and my device gets above 40C quickly and is a lil too warm to the touch.
It can't use all 8 at the same time though. It's basically 4 cores with 2 different power levels. It's sorta similar to the tegra 3, except there is a lower power core for each high power core.
   
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Default 08-01-2013, 09:34 | posts: 1,467 | Location: Warsaw, Poland

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Well once again we have some random tech site putting a spin on the actual content. Anandtech's original article sounds no where near as malicious as every other tech site linking to them. The click bait **** is getting ridiculous.

Anandtech Title: "Looking at CPU/GPU Benchmark Optimizations in the Galaxy S4"

Redmondgarbage Title: "Samsung Caught Artificially Boosting Galaxy S4 Benchmark Results"

Also most sites are completely leaving out the fact that the S4 runs at max clock speed with most benchmarks not specifically listed anyway.
Yeah, thanks for sharing this. I really hate such reposts - take good article, add sensation, subtract reason.
   
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