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Default DICE: No mods for Battlefield 4 - 06-14-2013, 08:06 | posts: 19,549 | Location: Guru3D testlab

ICE general manager Karl-Magnus Troedsson confirmed to PC Gamer at E3 that Battlefield 4 will not support mods. Troedsson caveated that user-generated content is something that DICE finds very interes...

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It's what made me quit after BF2, no Mods destroyed the BF Series.
   
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Default 06-14-2013, 08:23 | posts: 195 | Location: Dublin

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It's what made me quit after BF2, no Mods destroyed the BF Series.
Maybe you should stop playin CoD that has been ripping off customers with the same ****ty engine and even nowadays looks crap and try BF3 with all the premium goodies(maps, game types) It isn't the same as creating it on your own,I know, but I doubt you can come up with something revolutionary that the lads missed..
   
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Default 06-14-2013, 08:31 | posts: 22,483 | Location: Netherlands

Id rather see Official ranked servers and non official / ranked which allow mods and stuff.
Ive always enjoyed user created content much more then the official released stuff.
   
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Default 06-14-2013, 08:32 | posts: 2,875 | Location: Lebanon

Hehehe...suckers.
   
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Default 06-14-2013, 08:35 | posts: 6,553 | Location: Portland, Oregon

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It's what made me quit after BF2, no Mods destroyed the BF Series.
Oh yeah? well it made me stop playing FPS games in general. OHHHHHHH
But no seriously, custom maps FTW.
   
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Default 06-14-2013, 09:21 | posts: 195 | Location: Dublin

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Id rather see Official ranked servers and non official / ranked which allow mods and stuff.
Ive always enjoyed user created content much more then the official released stuff.
I wouldn't mind seeing unofficial mods to BF4 or other games, but I must say that last time I enjoyed custom made maps & stuff was in the Quake 2/3 era.
But saying that not including this option kills a game is a little far fetched
   
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Default 06-14-2013, 09:39 | posts: 23,460 | Location: NZ

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Maybe you should stop playin CoD that has been ripping off customers with the same ****ty engine and even nowadays looks crap and try BF3 with all the premium goodies(maps, game types) It isn't the same as creating it on your own,I know, but I doubt you can come up with something revolutionary that the lads missed..
LOL you don't know what you're talking about...obviously a Battlefield newbie...

BF3 was pure ****e in the eyes of any player who had been around since the beginning.
EA killed anything and everything that was good about the game, removing commander mode, forcing players to use Origin, introducing a ridiculous ranking system and discouraging teamplay.

On top of that there were hardly any maps released with the game and players were charged for DLC's later tat were nothing more than extra maps....maps that were free in BF2 (like Armored Fury) AND requiring an "online pass" for console users who owned 2nd hand copies of the game. Essentially charging the owner twice to get access to ranked servers.


BF2 never would have been popular for so long either if it hadn't been for the awesome mods available. Desert Combat, Forgotten Hope, Project Reality, Point Of Existence, the list goes on..... without these to keep players interested BF3 prob would not have made the sales it did....keep that in mind.

Goodbye EA, hello Bohemian Studios.

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Default 06-14-2013, 10:25 | posts: 195 | Location: Dublin

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LOL you don't know what you're talking about...obviously a Battlefield newbie...

BF3 was pure ****e in the eyes of any player who had been around since the beginning.
EA killed anything and everything that was good about the game, removing commander mode, forcing players to use Origin, introducing a ridiculous ranking system and discouraging teamplay.

On top of that there were hardly any maps released with the game and players were charged for DLC's later tat were nothing more than extra maps....maps that were free in BF2 (like Armored Fury) AND requiring an "online pass" for console users who owned 2nd hand copies of the game. Essentially charging the owner twice to get access to ranked servers.


BF2 never would have been popular for so long either if it hadn't been for the awesome mods available. Desert Combat, Forgotten Hope, Project Reality, Point Of Existence, the list goes on..... without these to keep players interested BF3 prob would not have made the sales it did....keep that in mind.

Goodbye EA, hello Bohemian Studios.
You can't blame EA for what it did. It's all business and if you wanna blame someone it's CoD franchise.It's hard to find a balance between making money and making players happy. EA just copied a successful model and I believe that BF3 was and is a success even though the minority of players who enjoy custom stuff are sad. That doesn't change the fact that the game is good.I am not saying I enjoy paying for a few extra maps but from the games we have on hand it's my favourite.

BTW i don't see anything bad about Origin, it's just as annoying as Steam.Commander mode is coming back in BF4.Ranking system is what it is and it seems that majority of players like it.Otherwise they wouldn't be putting it into every FPS.And how is it discouraging team play? Playing within your squad brings so many pros.Online pass for second hand game? just business as usual. Get over it. The world cares only about money whether it's good or not and if you were a shareholder in EA you would stay quiet.

Games are money making business. The good old days are gone and unfortunately they will most probably never come back.

And when it comes to ARMA3. Well let's keep our fingers crossed that boys from Czech republic don't need to make big bucks and they will concentrate on gamers rather than sales
   
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Default 06-14-2013, 10:51 | posts: 6,449 | Location: Chilling

Bohemia Interactive are already quite financially secure from their government sales alone.

The ArmA series are simplified and scaled down derivatives of their VBS series. ArmA also provides them with a great engine testing area.
   
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Default 06-14-2013, 11:00 | posts: 23,460 | Location: NZ

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Bohemia Interactive are already quite financially secure from their government sales alone.

The ArmA series are simplified and scaled down derivatives of their VBS series. ArmA also provides them with a great engine testing area.
Do you know if they have fixed the problem with low GPU load....?

I haven't played since build 0.54 but seemed to be coming on nicely for the most part.
   
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Default 06-14-2013, 11:38 | posts: 9,774 | Location: Yorkshire [UK]

Dice need to get a grip, way too big for their boots. The whole reason the BF series exists as it is today is because of BF1942 and it's mods, Desert Combat, Forgotten Hope etc. Without it their would be no BF series. Let's not forget how they hired Desert Combats Trauma Studios then sacked them all after a few months and stopped them making mods. They don't care about the community.
   
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Default 06-14-2013, 11:41 | posts: 1

If at least they would release a Map Editor... but wait, they use no Client Dedicated Server.... well... we will expect it to be exactly like bf3... 3 months of hype then almost 2 years of RAGE because DICE will be too busy doing some "new" maps (back to METRO maybe?) to answer our pleases about bugs, cheaters, unbalanced gameplay, HUD issues, server issues, etc...etc...
   
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Default 06-14-2013, 12:25 | posts: 6,449 | Location: Chilling

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Do you know if they have fixed the problem with low GPU load....?

I haven't played since build 0.54 but seemed to be coming on nicely for the most part.
Haven't had time lately to load it up, tests are a bitch that eat all your time.
   
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Default 06-14-2013, 12:28 | posts: 940 | Location: Somewhere in Scotland

Unknown to Karl-Magnus, there are a host of game hackers at work, proving him wrong!
Won't be long until mods begin bubbling to the surface.
   
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Unknown to Karl-Magnus, there are a host of game hackers at work, proving him wrong!
Won't be long until mods begin bubbling to the surface.
No offense to the modders but official tools always end up being miles better, not to mention the lack of support from DICE kinda screws you over with ranked servers and such.
   
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Default 06-14-2013, 16:33 | posts: 906 | Location: UK

No battle recorder is a shocking omission from bf3 and now bf4.

Modding would require (I'm guessing here) access to frostbite engine? Not really seeing a chance that any studio would do that. That's pretty pricey tech/ip that EA ring fenced for their studios, DICE are simply following suit.
   
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Default 06-14-2013, 16:48 | posts: 24,288 | Location: Hampshire UK

Meh, don't really want to play mods anyway, no biggie for me.
   
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Default 06-14-2013, 17:10 | posts: 3,763 | Location: Finland

never played any mods for anything other then hl1 so np.

I like bf for what it is, a good shooter.
   
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Sigh, no buy for me again. I still play bf2 mods sometimes.
   
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Default 06-16-2013, 01:08 | posts: 1,818 | Location: AZ

iv never played anything with mods so no big deal
   
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Hopefully we will get to see Daquing Oilfields, Fushe Pass, Dragon Valley and Dalian Plant. I know Dragon Valley and Fushe Pass were China based so we may see something as China is in the game. Even if its in the form of good dlc i dont mind there being no mods as long as core game is good.

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Dice need to get a grip, way too big for their boots. The whole reason the BF series exists as it is today is because of BF1942 and it's mods, Desert Combat, Forgotten Hope etc. Without it their would be no BF series. Let's not forget how they hired Desert Combats Trauma Studios then sacked them all after a few months and stopped them making mods. They don't care about the community.
So much this.

What made me stop playing Battlefield were their outright lies and deceiving.

When Battlefield 3 was announced, and cod black ops was too, I remember the smear tactic Dice was running by making fun of Cod Elite and talking about how they would never follow that path.
Or how their games wasn't another cod game. then BF3 released and the cluster**** that was metro 64/64. unbelievable choke points in their maps.

Then all their really dumb ideas for color grading, and actually NOT implementing the full destruction capabilities of their engine. that seriously pissed me off, they talked about so much
Before release, then just after they're like "oh yeah, full destruction is not available, BUT if you buy the back to karkand map, you can get just a BIT more destruction."

Then came their bull**** CQB dlc, which just turned it flat out into cod. and then their premium service which they said they would never do turned the game into a ****ing disgrace with PREMIUM all over it.

**** you Dice, you took a good thing and absolutely ruined it with bull**** like that. I don't think I've ever been so mischieved by a game like this, other than brink (also **** brink to hell and back)
   
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So much this.

What made me stop playing Battlefield were their outright lies and deceiving.

When Battlefield 3 was announced, and cod black ops was too, I remember the smear tactic Dice was running by making fun of Cod Elite and talking about how they would never follow that path.
Or how their games wasn't another cod game. then BF3 released and the cluster**** that was metro 64/64. unbelievable choke points in their maps.

Then all their really dumb ideas for color grading, and actually NOT implementing the full destruction capabilities of their engine. that seriously pissed me off, they talked about so much
Before release, then just after they're like "oh yeah, full destruction is not available, BUT if you buy the back to karkand map, you can get just a BIT more destruction."

Then came their bull**** CQB dlc, which just turned it flat out into cod. and then their premium service which they said they would never do turned the game into a ****ing disgrace with PREMIUM all over it.

**** you Dice, you took a good thing and absolutely ruined it with bull**** like that. I don't think I've ever been so mischieved by a game like this, other than brink (also **** brink to hell and back)
I've clocked 870 hours on premium BF3 - loving it.

Forget what I paid, but it reckon it was north of 50 and that works out to a lot of entertainment for the money, compared to Man of Steel which was 12 and 2 hours of non-interaction.

Games are great value for money in this regard - but Grid 2 was like 30 and I barely got a weekend out of it before uninstalling.

TF2 is another great VFM game I bought in like 2005 or something, and I got Portal with it and Half life 2 episode 2 - still play these games today.

Another poor VFM but very entertaining game is GTA4 - I clocked it in under a week and although I still have it installed, it really is not something I play tbh, even though I think it's a quality game. I also got the DLC's for it. Lost and Damned and Ballard of Gay Tony, that lasted about another week each.

It really depends on your perspective of what constitutes VFM, and that's something only you can decide.

BF4, FYI, has been in development longer than BF3 and was started prior to it - maybe this is why BF3 feels and looks a lot like the bastard child of Bad company 2 and BF2 - but I never played CoD.

I like the option of having tanks v tanks or troops v troops from a map perspective.
   
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I've clocked 870 hours on premium BF3 - loving it.

Forget what I paid, but it reckon it was north of 50 and that works out to a lot of entertainment for the money, compared to Man of Steel which was 12 and 2 hours of non-interaction.

Games are great value for money in this regard - but Grid 2 was like 30 and I barely got a weekend out of it before uninstalling.

TF2 is another great VFM game I bought in like 2005 or something, and I got Portal with it and Half life 2 episode 2 - still play these games today.

Another poor VFM but very entertaining game is GTA4 - I clocked it in under a week and although I still have it installed, it really is not something I play tbh, even though I think it's a quality game. I also got the DLC's for it. Lost and Damned and Ballard of Gay Tony, that lasted about another week each.

It really depends on your perspective of what constitutes VFM, and that's something only you can decide.

BF4, FYI, has been in development longer than BF3 and was started prior to it - maybe this is why BF3 feels and looks a lot like the bastard child of Bad company 2 and BF2 - but I never played CoD.

I like the option of having tanks v tanks or troops v troops from a map perspective.
To each their own I guess haha. But after BF3, anything that is by Dice will go under a microscope before I decide to buy it.
just the same as I had way, way more in BC2 than BF3. Maybe BF4 will be better, but I'm not getting duped again.
   
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