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Talking 950 vs 4770k with 660 SLI - 06-11-2013, 05:01 | posts: 362 | Location: RI, USA

In this thread I will post benchmarks and reviews of my current setup which you can see on the side versus the new 4770k setup. I will try the best direct comparison I can in processing, video, ssd and more. The reason behind this is to help others from previous generations to get a better understanding of the difference because most things are sb and ivy comparisons to haswell. I would like to know anything you want to see tested, so I can test current setup before the switch. I will list what I have and you can give your inputs:
BF3
Crysis 3
Tomb Raider
Aida64
3DMark
HD Tune
Unigine Valley

i7 950 @ 3.6 Ghz
6 GB DDR3 1600 Triple Channel
Evga x58 SLI3
VS.
i7 4770k @ stock
8 GB DDR3 2133 Dual Channel
Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H

Shared Specs:
2 Evga GTX 660 FTW Sig2 SLI
Samsung 840 250 GB SSD
Corsair GS700 PSU

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Default 06-11-2013, 17:10 | posts: 1,319 | Location: Langley,B.C. Canada

Subbed as I'm interested to see the comparison.
   
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Default 06-12-2013, 22:23 | posts: 66 | Location: Hendersonville Nc

Subbed as well. I still have a 930, would be interesting to see the comparo
   
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Default 06-12-2013, 22:41 | posts: 7,098 | Location: Dubai

Serious Sam 3 if you have it.
   
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Default 06-12-2013, 22:58 | posts: 884 | Location: BRISTOL uk

Well if its any help guys, I went from a heavily overclcked i7 950 at 4.3 to a 3770k and I can tell you it's like light and day, I was blown away. Higher framerates yes but it was the smoothness. I run it at 4.7 and just as a test, there was a point in Far Cry 3 where I could only get 50fps no matter what I did, CPU bound. Now at that same place I have to drop my 3770k to 3.5 for the same framerate drop. This was running at 2560x1440 in SLI. Granted, this is not the 4770k but it will only be the same if not a touch faster so a big difference. Other games I saw huge benefits were the following.

BF3
PLANETSIDE 2
SERIOUS SAM 3
THE OLD REPUBLIC ONLINE
CRYSIS 3
METRO LAST LIGHT

Hope this helps. Basically there is a huge benefit from upgrading.
   
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Default 06-13-2013, 05:02 | posts: 362 | Location: RI, USA

Sorry don't have SS3 but I did 950 today so I should have 4770k set tomorrow. Sorry taking so long, just got married Sunday and been a bit busy still. I have no idea how I've been going this long without playing with the new stuff, lol.
   
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Default 06-13-2013, 08:10 | posts: 649 | Location: W.A.K.T

I think an upgrade like this could very well benefit 120hz monitor users who need higher frame rates, myself it's the minimum which is most important for me and that's 60, so I am quite interested to see what most influences that, I myself have Titan SLI and it's rarely GPU usage hitting 99% which causes dips into the 50's, so I wonder if a, SYSTEM upgrade like this has any significant impact on MINIMUM FPS as well, I spent much time/money striving for GPU power to eliminate dips below 60 as this can be quite jarring (OK to me? very) when using VSYNC.

I am interested so, good work as I am, YET AGAIN about to blow near £800 on upgrades, not only because I ENJOY it but also, with one eye on it, WONDER IF IT HELPS.

Perhaps you could be sure to keep the minimum FPS as a factor? also, perhaps try with VSYNC in some titles noting how often you LOSE VSYNC stability on the older hardware vs haswell?

I think one of the most useless numbers we find in benchmarking is maximum FPS and close behind it is the average as passing a wall or something can shooot your FPS up into the hundreds even on demanding games, I find the minimum FPS, or more importantly if there was a way to set a minimum and note how OFTEN you get thrown BELOW that far far more interesting, perhaps maybe a pass with something like an MSI Afterburner FPS line graph, this perhaps gives a much much more clear overall picture of what playing a game will be like FPS wise.

Sorry, rambling now....

All interesting stuff anyway, good luck with your tests.

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Default 06-13-2013, 08:21 | posts: 8,350 | Location: Urban`Jungle

I have SS3 + DLC, but I upgraded from Q9450 to 4770k so the gap willl be even bigger, will post my findings later today or tomorrow.
   
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Default 06-13-2013, 17:33 | posts: 362 | Location: RI, USA

I planned this upgrade to help the bottom end to get smoother play, so I have recorded min, avg and max. I didn't test vsync, I'll see if I can push that in today.
   
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Default 06-13-2013, 23:06 | posts: 362 | Location: RI, USA

Here's a sample from current setup, hope you like.
   
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Default 06-13-2013, 23:52 | posts: 649 | Location: W.A.K.T

Really great work mate.

Now, I hope I am reading that graph wrong, or, my suspicions are confirmed in resounding fashion.
   
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Default 06-14-2013, 01:17 | posts: 8,350 | Location: Urban`Jungle

Ok I tried SS3 (Last man on earth map), and wow runs great, no more slowdowns - cpu @ ultra, actually now im gpu bottlenecked

Bf3 64TDM and B2K map, gpu always maxing no more slowdowns..again hitting gpu wall a lot, almost to much
   
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Default 06-16-2013, 05:28 | posts: 362 | Location: RI, USA

Ok here is what I got, I'm gonna be heading to bed so if i lack info just ask and i'll get back.








950

4770k

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Default 07-26-2013, 15:58 | posts: 991 | Location: Miami

You sir are a scholar and a gentleman. huge props.
   
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Default 07-26-2013, 20:01 | posts: 362 | Location: RI, USA

Thanks, I just need to do a few edits again due to the forum being set back. I had forgot 2 benches for the hard drives and system specs in main post.

Posts updated now.

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Default 08-22-2013, 01:54 | posts: 6,063 | Location: Wolverhampton/United Kingdom

Hmmmm.... this just proves that in terms of gaming performance the 1st gen Core i7's really do still shine and show just how much performance they brought to the table and it also shows how little Intel have come thanks to barely any competition from AMD. Sad, really sad indeed. Still, I will upgrade to a 4770K near the end of year to be more up to date. But I am considering a second 7970 instead temptations! DAMN YOU!
   
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Default 08-22-2013, 11:39 | posts: 4,963 | Location: London

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Hmmmm.... this just proves that in terms of gaming performance the 1st gen Core i7's really do still shine and show just how much performance they brought to the table and it also shows how little Intel have come thanks to barely any competition from AMD. Sad, really sad indeed. Still, I will upgrade to a 4770K near the end of year to be more up to date. But I am considering a second 7970 instead temptations! DAMN YOU!
If gaming at 2560 x 1440 you won't regret the 2nd 7970. I don't think I'm getting any major bottlenecks with a "980X" at 4.2/4.4 GHz, so you should be fine.
   
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Default 08-22-2013, 18:40 | posts: 362 | Location: RI, USA

Yea for me it was not the performance increase of cpu, which isn't much, but the power savings and and good sata3 support. The sata3 gave the best overall improvement on how smooth the computer runs and if programs eventually use the new instructions that will boost cpu performance a good amount.
   
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Default 08-22-2013, 21:25 | posts: 597 | Location: Zagreb,Croatia

test arma 2/3, natural selection 2, gta 4, planetside 2. Those will tell a clearer picture on haswell benefits over the 950.
   
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Default 08-23-2013, 03:15 | posts: 362 | Location: RI, USA

I still have the 920 setup but I don't have an extra psu. I also still have my GTX 570, I need to sell it all. I had thought of putting it in my living room but I think it would be too big and loud for it and I need the cash really.
   
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Default 08-27-2013, 23:35 | posts: 330 | Location: Worcester UK

As said above its good to see an old CPU (1st Gen i7) keep up with current 4th gen tech. As much as I'm itching for an upgrade the boost just isn't there. Guess I'll have to wait for the next range (after the i series) like I did with my Q6600.

Props for going through the effort of doing this though as I often find it difficult to get a decent representation of performance between the new and older CPU's.

*Just looked at the TDP difference between the 950 and the Haswell's, its nearly cut in half *
   
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Default 09-01-2013, 11:04 | posts: 43 | Location: Lithuania

Can you do this test similar to my own benchmark?

So meaning: can you overclock both processors at 4 GHz and do test eye to eye like i did with Core i7 Nehalem VS Core i7 Sandy Bridge?

Only this way will we find out just how much the Haswell is an improvement over Nehalem, not 3,06 GHz VS 3,9 GHz..

I'd love to see a comparison from the architecture point of view - please make a benchmark at equal clock speeds!

If you saw my benchmark, the Sandy Bridge was 6 % superior to Nehalem clock per clock. Please make the same with Nehalem VS Haswell.

Please salvage ALOT more games, by "any means necessary".. Just look at how many games i have brought to the test deck - more than half of them i certainly do not own, just "acquired" them for the test only.

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