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Default New Mac Pro - 06-10-2013, 22:34 | posts: 2,392 | Location: Scotland

http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/app...w_mac_pro.html

http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/


Nice website design.
   
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Default 06-10-2013, 22:50 | posts: 7,098 | Location: Dubai

It's pretty good from the looks of it and WWDC as a whole too! I wish OS X also got a refresh the way iOS received.
   
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Default 06-10-2013, 22:50 | posts: 7,512 | Location: GTA, Canada

This is as silly as the Mac cube. Designed and assembled in the US. They forgot to mention the parts are produced in China.

Anyway, the design is nuts and clearly not upgradeable, the specs are weak... it just looks like a disaster waiting to happen.
   
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Default 06-10-2013, 22:51 | posts: 10,358 | Location: Dundee, Scotland

Hdmi port at the front, what?

Also looks mightily not upgradeable.
   
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Default 06-10-2013, 23:50 | posts: 4,964 | Location: London

It looks like a dustbin (trashcan for you yanks). XD
   
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Default 06-11-2013, 00:12 | posts: 3,635 | Location: USA

More interested in how much price premium APPLE gona try tag that with but the Apple fanatics will just hand over there money anyway.

That is the weirdest pc I seen to date and dont look to be upgradeable in anyway, but are mant Apple PC upgradeable?
   
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Default 06-11-2013, 00:38 | posts: 5,676 | Location: Switzerland

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This is as silly as the Mac cube. Designed and assembled in the US. They forgot to mention the parts are produced in China.

Anyway, the design is nuts and clearly not upgradeable, the specs are weak... it just looks like a disaster waiting to happen.
Not sure we can call this weak, Xeon 12cores / 24Threads + 2x FirePro S9000.

Now the problem is i really dont see why anyone will pay so much on Apple, when they can get an upgradable design with standard workstation. Upgrade easely rams, processors, GPU's... SSD / HDD.. Some can like the design.. ( huum not me, having a turbine type like that, really strange. you put this on the side of the desk, and anyone will think this is the trash. You can allready prepare a stickers for put on it: " Im not a trash, Im an Apple ". )

I even remember they was a PC brand who have done the exact same design some years ago ( this one was red or blue, white or Black ).

At least on the old MacPro, you was able to upgrade and change ( some ) hardware yourself.

The most funny will be the price.

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Default 06-11-2013, 01:40 | posts: 3,635 | Location: USA

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Not sure we can call this weak, Xeon 12cores / 24Threads + 2x FirePro S9000.

Now the problem is i really dont see why anyone will pay so much on Apple, when they can get an upgradable design with standard workstation. Upgrade easely rams, processors, GPU's... SSD / HDD.. Some can like the design.. ( huum not me, having a turbine type like that, really strange. you put this on the side of the desk, and anyone will think this is the trash. You can allready prepare a stickers for put on it: " Im not a trash, Im an Apple ". )

I even remember they was a PC brand who have done the exact same design some years ago ( this one was red or blue, white or Black ).

At least on the old MacPro, you was able to upgrade and change ( some ) hardware yourself.

The most funny will be the price.

people that buy apple dont need a reason those people think APPLE is god when come to products
   
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Default 06-11-2013, 03:25 | posts: 9,890 | Location: Yorkshire [UK]

Only upgradable part is the ram, even uses a custom ssd so you can't do that yourself, have to buy a custom apple ssd which you know will cost at least 5x more...
   
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Default 06-11-2013, 03:39 | posts: 5,676 | Location: Switzerland

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Only upgradable part is the ram, even uses a custom ssd so you can't do that yourself, have to buy a custom apple ssd which you know will cost at least 5x more...
Well if it was the best of the best SSD, price will not be a problem, but sadly they was allways old SSD with average performance.
   
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Default 06-11-2013, 03:43 | posts: 188 | Location: Québec

The all new toilet design.
   
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Default 06-11-2013, 04:35 | posts: 6,884 | Location: USA

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Only upgradable part is the ram, even uses a custom ssd so you can't do that yourself, have to buy a custom apple ssd which you know will cost at least 5x more...
Thats not true. Watch the WDDC. and its PCIe flash ssds.
   
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Default 06-11-2013, 04:42 | posts: 573

I'm sure most Apple fans are pissed about this.

The point of getting a Mac Pro is for upgrading the hardware.

Designing a computer to look like a soda can is bull****. They should save that for the Mac Mini.
   
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Default 06-11-2013, 04:56 | posts: 7,512 | Location: GTA, Canada

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Not sure we can call this weak, Xeon 12cores / 24Threads + 2x FirePro S9000.
That maximum possible build will probably cost over $9000 if it keeps with tradition... it will not be overclockable so there goes 30%-40% of its power out the window and those 2x FirePro S9000s will be dinosaurs quickly enough. Would be nice if they could be replaced! Isn't a big selling point of the Mac Pro that you could upgrade parts?... like any normal PC.
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Designing a computer to look like a soda can is bull****. They should save that for the Mac Mini.
It looks like a cross between a trashcan and a dildo, I think it's appropriate.
   
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Default 06-11-2013, 05:18 | posts: 1,307 | Location: UK

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The all new toilet design.
First thing I thought too. 'Like some sort of metallic toilet roll holder...
   
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Default 06-11-2013, 06:28 | posts: 5,269 | Location: Everyday Rain Florida





I knew it!
   
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Default 06-11-2013, 08:38 | posts: 2,205 | Location: far,far from home

It's early time to discuss price.
I watched the keynote,and i was surprised to see the new Mac Pro.
Now,design shape and form are easily to criticise...Or to praise.
How much could cost building a normal computer with the same specs?
If Maverick(Osx 10.9)offers dual card support,well,one can wait a bit and see what Tonymac will have in store ....
As before,nobody forces you into buying it.For each product,there is its customer.
Disaster waiting to happen?Yes,Apple is like that,but look,they sold many disasters.
It is all about numbers,and screw royally your customers.
   
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Default 06-11-2013, 08:46 | posts: 5,269 | Location: Everyday Rain Florida

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It's early time to discuss price.
I watched the keynote,and i was surprised to see the new Mac Pro.
Now,design shape and form are easily to criticise...Or to praise.
How much could cost building a normal computer with the same specs?
If Maverick(Osx 10.9)offers dual card support,well,one can wait a bit and see what Tonymac will have in store ....
As before,nobody forces you into buying it.For each product,there is its customer.
Disaster waiting to happen?Yes,Apple is like that,but look,they sold many disasters.
It is all about numbers,and screw royally your customers.
Well I was roughly looking at the specs and it was using Xeons and if it says up to "12" cores then they may be using 2x6core ones as the specific chipset had 2-4-6-8 configuration. The video card was dual firepros so workstation easily 1k each and the ssd with the other stuff added on with the apple logo can easily get $6k+
   
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Default 06-11-2013, 08:56 | posts: 503 | Location: Denmark

Pretty neat with a cupholder on the top. ^.^
   
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Default 06-11-2013, 10:26 | posts: 207 | Location: Dublin

Saddest thing about it is that all those idiots who believe apple is great and cool are gonna pay big bucks for this unupgradeable, overpriced trashcan and in the end it's gonna be a success..but hey, Mcdonald is still the most sold hamburger in the world yet it's crap..more and more I am imagining the world without average americans
   
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Default 06-11-2013, 12:25 | posts: 276 | Location: Turku, Finland

Apple has been known for years for their almost flawless design and I have to admit their products generally do look good. This new "trash bin" thing however, looks like a disaster. If it came in a different color, it might look a bit better) It looks like they wanted to go for something totally different from the ordinary but really missed the mark here. I also hate the way apple prevents their products to be used by anything else than their products (or in many cases even their own products, a generation older product is not generally compatible with their latest product) I have to use a mac at work and also a pc, now my work pc has a normal 23 inch display and I wanted to use the mac's bigger and better Apple HD cinema display (I think it's at least 27 inch, may even be 30 inch) because I use the pc a lot more than I do the mac but I couldn't because the mac's display only as a mini display port connection on it (and its embedded into the display so you can't detach any cables from the display itself). My pc has a nVidia Quadro 2000 gpu in it and it of course doesn't have a mini display port output, but only two HDMI ports and one DVI. I tried to switch the gpu's between the pc and the mac but the mac refused to work on my normal pc display through a DVI connection. It seems the mac has to use a dual-link DVI in order to work so a normal DVI cable won't do the job. So I had to revert back to the original setup. But things like this infuriate me. Would it have been so hard to have a dvi or even hdmi connection on the Apple HD cinema display instead of only one mini display port connection? And why are all the cables on the display unremovable? What's the point in limiting the use of your display to only certain products? There's a lot of other stuff that apple has that's just plain stupid, one example is their new so called "magic mouse". Sure it looks pretty but that's where the good parts end. The worst is the bottom of the mouse. It has two long black slaps of plastic as the mouse's feet which are the ones that touch the surface you use your mouse on (pic of these is at the bottom of this post). Isn't the point of a mouse to have as little contact to the surface as possible which makes the mouse movement easy and smooth. So is this the best the highly regarded Apple design team could come up with, because every surface I've used the mouse on, it's just plain horrible. Why couldn't they just put four little plastic "feet" on each end instead of two long bars of plastic with as much surface connection as possible which leads to almost unusable mouse on any surface. I guess the designers were only worried how the mouse look from the top and not the bottom. And that is what I think what Apple is all about these days anyways, make the products look good and people will buy them (especially the ones who know nothing to very little about computers).

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Default 06-11-2013, 13:31 | posts: 9,890 | Location: Yorkshire [UK]

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Thats not true. Watch the WDDC. and its PCIe flash ssds.
Mini PCI-E and much longer and narrower than a normal one, not to mention how much more normal Mini PCI-E SSD's cost.

   
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Default 06-11-2013, 14:30 | posts: 10,529 | Location: Toledo Ohio

Mini pcie is upgradable. Newegg has kits for it, as well as there are other flash kits that are made for apples designs which they use the same design with their computers.

This is not a bad design, but it's not Mac Pro. The whole point and greatness of the Mac Pro is it's so big! If I had the time and money, I would love to convert either a g5 or Mac Pro case to atx. Beautiful design. This, the specs impress me but the design is silly looking. The cooling system is amazing though.
   
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Default 06-11-2013, 17:34 | posts: 970 | Location: Canada

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The all new toilet design.
geez worst engineering EVER.

Seems Apple really wants NOBODY to be able to upgrade their laptops and desktops anymore or put their hands in their products. they want you to bring your Apple products to the Apple store for servicing and $$$$$$$$$. Or pay for their Extended Warranty $$$.

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For current owners who have filled their Mac Pro’s slots and still need to use their cards, you’ll have to invest in an external Thunderbolt expansion chassis that will house expansion cards and connect to the new Mac Pro via Thunderbolt.
Yet another marketing and $$$$ catch, buy more more expensive accessories for your already 3000$ Macbook pro to be able to do this and that. NO THANK YOU.
   
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Default 06-12-2013, 02:20 | posts: 3,676 | Location: Barcelona, Spain

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Hdmi port at the front, what?

Also looks mightily not upgradeable.
No, there are no HDMI ports at the front.

And no, it's not internally upgradeable. What they intend is to upgrade everything externally (that's why there are 6 Thunderbolt-2 ports).

Just sayin', not agreeing or disagreeing with Apple's decisions.

PS: also, the 3 x 4K screen thing seems like a nice thing to have.
   
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