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Default First look at Windows 8.1 - 06-06-2013, 22:55 | posts: 5,672

Jensen Harris, Director of Program Management for the Windows User Experience team shows off Windows 8.1 in new vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=VQb5caeSo00

Of course, he's using a touch screen to show us 8.1's finer side. This is not Windows to me. As a desktop, mouse/KB user, doesnt show me diddly squat how 8.1 will improve the way I work on my PC over 8 let alone 7. Nothing he's shown here relates to how I work on my PC.


edit: clarification to my above rant:

http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.ph...&postcount=646

I blame Jensen Harris for his piss poor presentation which seemed to solely target touch screen users.

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Default 06-06-2013, 23:22 | posts: 3,479 | Location: UK

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Jensen Harris, Director of Program Management for the Windows User Experience team shows off Windows 8.1 in new vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=VQb5caeSo00

Of course, he's using a touch screen to show us 8.1's finer side. This is not Windows to me. As a desktop, mouse/KB user, doesnt show me diddly squat how 8.1 will improve the way I work on my PC over 8 let alone 7. Nothing he's shown here relates to how I work on my PC.
I can't see any useful features for me. I don't really care much for the Metro UI, I don't mind it but I go straight to desktop view as soon as Windows boots. Also, didn't even show the start menu.
   
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Default 06-06-2013, 23:29 | posts: 4,216 | Location: Australia

Touch screens on a computer.

Oops, put a smudge on the screen. Damn that new plain look white theme Microsoft have gone for (Office 2013 etc), every single mark shows up. Hmmm, better wipe it off. Oh crap! just loaded up every app on the computer getting that smudge off.

There are a lot of people out there disappointed with touch screens, it didn't make their porno's any more immersive.

If you actually watch the video, you will notice it isn't so much discussing Windows 8, as it is promoting the Microsoft tablet things (whatever they're called), and Skydrive.
   
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Default 06-06-2013, 23:46 | posts: 3,479 | Location: UK

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Touch screens on a computer.

Oops, put a smudge on the screen. Damn that new plain look white theme Microsoft have gone for (Office 2013 etc), every single mark shows up. Hmmm, better wipe it off. Oh crap! just loaded up every app on the computer getting that smudge off.

There are a lot of people out there disappointed with touch screens, it didn't make their porno's any more immersive.

If you actually watch the video, you will notice it isn't so much discussing Windows 8, as it is promoting the Microsoft tablet things (whatever they're called), and Skydrive.
Skydrive, well that's a new idea.... Ripping off others yet again.
   
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Default 06-08-2013, 01:40 | posts: 36

I have no use for Skydrive, but I've actually grown to quite like Modern UI, even on the desktop, so I'm intrigued with the improvements. I mean, I'm still on the desktop probably 90% of the time, but have no trouble navigating Modern and welcome upgrades that would invite me to spend more time there.
   
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Default 06-08-2013, 02:13 | posts: 8,847 | Location: Indiana

lol, this guy's a hardass

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That's the point.... Windows 8 is heavily touch based. If you don't have a touchscreen (Which is odd,***65279; because almost all machines come with one now), then don't use windows 8.
   
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Default 06-08-2013, 02:31 | posts: 3,479 | Location: UK

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That's the point.... Windows 8 is heavily touch based. If you don't have a touchscreen (Which is odd,***65279; because almost all machines come with one now), then don't use windows 8.
Almost all machines come with touchscreens....sounds like he has never built a PC. Noob.
   
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Default 06-08-2013, 14:35 | posts: 1,888

I was intrigued and hopeful when I read that Microsoft was re-introducing the Start button with Windows 8.1. Now, I am convinced Microsoft is completely out of touch with the wants and needs of the everyday desktop user.

Windows 8 should have been named Windows Portable, or Windows Mobile, because that is where the OS is specifically targeted.
   
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Default 06-08-2013, 18:39 | posts: 5,672

Funny but hard hitting article.

Windows 'Blue': Microsoft blows it

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Microsoft's demo includes screenshots of a Search charm search for "Marilyn Monroe" that produces lots of glamorous pictures and nifty headlined articles, as well as links to videos and songs that you can actually buy. A search like "June invoices" isn't likely to turn up such photogenic results -- but, hey, Bing can crunch on it for a while.

Unlike Apple's Siri and Google Now, the Win8.1 Search charm doesn't support voice input. Per Microsoft, "It is the modern version of the command line!" -- which is exactly what you were looking for in a fast and fluid re-imagined touch environment, right? del c:\*.* /q ....

Right now, in Windows 8, if you click in the lower-left corner of the Desktop, you're sent to the Metro Start screen. In Windows 8.1, if you click in the lower-left corner of the Desktop, you get sent to the Metro Start screen. The only difference is that Win8.1 will have a visible Start button, not the invisible version used in Windows 8. I guess somebody at Microsoft figured the presence of a Start button would mollify the 1.4 billion people who click on Start and expect to see a Start menu...
   
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Default 06-08-2013, 18:41 | posts: 7,197 | Location: Dubai

Better than what released in October but still nothing compelling for a non-touch PC and laptop. If I want touch, I will get an iPad (already haz) or an android equivalent. MS can dream on.

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It sounds like Win8.1 will de-emphasize libraries by removing the Libraries entry on the left side of the File Explorer (formerly Windows Explorer) window. I haven't heard any justification for knee-capping one of Win7's best features. No doubt we'll see something in the Windows blog about it shortly.
From the above link, is this ****ing piece of **** true?! Why not just remove the desktop and put an advert for Linux Mint?!


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Default 06-09-2013, 03:11 | posts: 36

The start button leading to the start screen is exactly what I wanted, personally. I didn't want, and more importantly was reasonable enough to not expect, a backtrack to the return of the old menu.

The alleged loss of the Libraries however, that is disconcerting.
   
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Default 06-09-2013, 05:19 | posts: 16,939 | Location: US East Coast

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I can't see any useful features for me. I don't really care much for the Metro UI, I don't mind it but I go straight to desktop view as soon as Windows boots. Also, didn't even show the start menu.
When did MS say that the start menu was returning? All I've read is that the start button is returning and will be used to access "MetroUI".

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Skydrive, well that's a new idea.... Ripping off others yet again.
Skydrive is nothing new. It's actually quite old now. It pre-dates most of the current cloud storage schemes. This is a case where MS jumped on board early and others have followed suit.


   
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Default 06-09-2013, 20:26 | posts: 5,910 | Location: Tacoma, Washington

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Skydrive, well that's a new idea.... Ripping off others yet again.
Not at all, Skydrive's initial release was in 2007. Cloud computing is nothing 'new' the initial concept behind it dates back to the 1950's and 60's (research 'dumb terminal'). Basically all Microsoft did was adopt an idea and build on it, just as much as any other recent cloud based storage company. So in reality, by your definition every new cloud based storage company is 'ripping off' someone's idea.

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Have to admit, I'm using windows 8 and not disliking it so far, but if they keep going this direction and push it even further...

God have mercy on us.
   
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Default 06-09-2013, 21:51 | posts: 7,887 | Location: 127.0.0.1

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Have to admit, I'm using windows 8 and not disliking it so far, but if they keep going this direction and push it even further...

God have mercy on us.
I hated it when it first arrived, went back to 7 after a few weeks of misery using 8, but decided to give it another shot a week or so ago and killed Metro & returned my start menu with StartIsBack, plus used a local account instead of live login, and so far so good

Bugs I was having originally seem to have been ironed out, and keeping away from Metro makes it almost a decent experience, I don't see any need to reinstall 7 atm
   
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Funny but hard hitting article.

Windows 'Blue': Microsoft blows it

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Wow, are hard biased opinion article, cool story bro.
   
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Default 06-11-2013, 10:21 | posts: 5,672

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Wow, are hard biased opinion article, cool story bro.
You're free to post your own glowing reviews, previews or opinions of 8, 8.1. In case you werent swayed by Jensen Harris presentation.
   
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I really wonder what Microsoft's plan "B" is if 8.1 fails. As far as I know win8 usage in the world is nearly %5, more or less. Let's say after Blue update this percentage is %7.5 max. Then what?
   
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I really wonder what Microsoft's plan "B" is if 8.1 fails. As far as I know win8 usage in the world is nearly %5, more or less. Let's say after Blue update this percentage is %7.5 max. Then what?
Then we the consumers and even their enterprise clients will be wrong again and they'll come out with 8.2.
   
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I hated it when it first arrived, went back to 7 after a few weeks of misery using 8, but decided to give it another shot a week or so ago and killed Metro & returned my start menu with StartIsBack, plus used a local account instead of live login, and so far so good

Bugs I was having originally seem to have been ironed out, and keeping away from Metro makes it almost a decent experience, I don't see any need to reinstall 7 atm
I don't think u understood what I mean't :p

Currently using Windows 8 (without a tool to get the start menu back!) and I prefer it over 7, since aside from the GUI, it IS a better OS.

But it seems like they're going to push this "tablet" like OS experience even further for desktop PC's with 8.1 ... wrong direction imo. Looks great for
tablets and the like, but if they keep going like this, it probably will eventually become a piece of crap UI for a mouse user.

I hope to god I can turn that feature off that searches on the web. I don't want my PC to search on the web every effing time I type something in the start menu.

NO, I type it there because it's just (since Vista/7) simply THE fastest way of accessing an application that doesn't have an icon on the desktop or something. I don't want it to waste time searching the web, I hell I don't even wait for it to load the text I type.

CMD and bash enter instantly, cal and bash enter, ... seriously.

I don't like to waste time, people don't like to waste time. It makes people cranky.

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Default 06-16-2013, 04:20 | posts: 3,479 | Location: UK

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Not at all, Skydrive's initial release was in 2007. Cloud computing is nothing 'new' the initial concept behind it dates back to the 1950's and 60's (research 'dumb terminal'). Basically all Microsoft did was adopt an idea and build on it, just as much as any other recent cloud based storage company. So in reality, by your definition every new cloud based storage company is 'ripping off' someone's idea.
I stand corrected.
   
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Win 7 it is then.
They didnt have to do much to get my money and recommendation, they are too pig headed though.
I hoped MS might throw us a bone, but they arent the company I once respected.
   
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does the water mark stay on the desktop always for you guys?
because when I installed 8.1, it showed the watermark and winver show expire date, but after shutdown and booting up. it doesnt show the watermark and winver doesnt show expire date. it only showed it the one time and that was it.
   
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does the water mark stay on the desktop always for you guys?
because when I installed 8.1, it showed the watermark and winver show expire date, but after shutdown and booting up. it doesnt show the watermark and winver doesnt show expire date. it only showed it the one time and that was it.
Always stays on the screen for me. Build 9431.
   
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