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EVGA GeForce GTX 780 SuperClocked ACX review
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Default EVGA GeForce GTX 780 SuperClocked ACX review - 05-24-2013, 11:32 | posts: 21,548 | Location: Guru3D testlab

Today we test and review a GeForce GTX 780 from EVGA, the SC ACX edition specifically. The Superclocked model comes with a nice factory tweak and that all new Sleeve bearing fan based ACX cooler. Over...

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Default 05-24-2013, 12:36 | posts: 8,343 | Location: Urban`Jungle

Nice temp difference, similar to old Fermi GF110 stock vs custom.
   
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Default 05-24-2013, 12:37 | posts: 2,386 | Location: Netherlands

I'm impressed.
   
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Default 05-24-2013, 12:51 | posts: 5,465 | Location: FLA,USA

Nvidia did it again this looks identical to the 670-680 performance gap (this review proves it as it is like a 670 FTW vs vanilla 680 with the gap of the 780 AVX vs Titan gap) no one of sound mine should pay the premium for the Titan after this.
   
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Default 05-24-2013, 13:09 | posts: 182 | Location: Saudi Arabia

Except people who will game on 1440 surround and then MAYBE we need 6gb.

Can't find any reviews with Vram usage on surround gaming vs one screen to build a complete hypothesis.

I might acutally buy three 780s just to test it!
   
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Default 05-24-2013, 13:17 | posts: 23,570 | Location: Netherlands

now this is a very nice card indeed!

can someone explain this please ?

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Once it is available in the stores then please be careful, there will be a several SKUs based on the GTX 780, our sample is the 03G-P4-2784-KR SKU.
What is there to look for ?
Does it say on the box which sku it is ?
   
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Default 05-24-2013, 13:27 | posts: 5,666 | Location: Switzerland

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Nvidia did it again this looks identical to the 670-680 performance gap (this review proves it as it is like a 670 FTW vs vanilla 680 with the gap of the 780 AVX vs Titan gap) no one of sound mine should pay the premium for the Titan after this.
For gaming, ok, now for peoples who want Titan for computing stuff, the loss on DP is the reason of the price difference.
   
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Default 05-24-2013, 13:29 | posts: 13,777 | Location: USA

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now this is a very nice card indeed!

can someone explain this please ?



What is there to look for ?
Does it say on the box which sku it is ?

Yes. There's a sticker on the side of the box that has the serial number and the SKU.

Also. there are 2 versions of the 780 with the ACX cooler :

1. 03G-P4-2782-KR is the normal one

2. 03G-P4-2784-KR is the super clocked version.
   
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Default 05-24-2013, 13:32 | posts: 23,570 | Location: Netherlands

Thx PhazeDelta1

found it on a site with that sku for 680euro.
im gonna wait until its around 600
   
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Default 05-24-2013, 13:38 | posts: 13,777 | Location: USA

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Thx PhazeDelta1

found it on a site with that sku for 680euro.
im gonna wait until its around 600
NP.


just got finished reading the review. MAN those temps under load are just crazy.
   
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Default 05-24-2013, 13:39 | posts: 5,630

Well done Evga. Finally a card that does better in cooling than the exotics like Gigabytes Windforce. I've faulted Evgas poor cooling performance before when they've stuck too often to the ref cooler design. Looks like we have a winner here.
   
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Default 05-24-2013, 14:41 | posts: 5,253 | Location: Netherlands

Seems to be the best 780 out there atm.

I hope i can grab one in early June.
   
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Default 05-24-2013, 14:54 | posts: 12,219 | Location: England

Those temperatures are really impressive but it doesn't seem to do much for the card's overclocking potential when the reference cards already overclock well. So basically you're paying a premium for a card that runs cooler but not much else. It isn't even any quieter than a reference card according to Guru3D's review (both are 40 db under load despite the fact the reference card hits 80 C). Also, the new cooling means the card loses the premium looks of the reference card, not that it really matters once it is stuck inside your case.
   
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Default 05-24-2013, 14:56 | posts: 5,465 | Location: FLA,USA

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For gaming, ok, now for peoples who want Titan for computing stuff, the loss on DP is the reason of the price difference.
I see your point but you are speaking to a very small minority with the castrated DP. This product is aimed at gamers nvidia offers the Tesla line for the power users out there.


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Those temperatures are really impressive but it doesn't seem to do much for the card's overclocking potential when the reference cards already overclock well. So basically you're paying a premium for a card that runs cooler but not much else. It isn't even any quieter than a reference card according to Guru3D's review (both are 40 db under load despite the fact the reference card hits 80 C). Also, the new cooling means the card loses the premium looks of the reference card, not that it really matters once it is stuck inside your case.

This is the card you ordered correct? You could always slap a full coverage water block on it and get that "premium" look back.

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Default 05-24-2013, 15:08 | posts: 12,219 | Location: England

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This is the card you ordered correct? You could always slap a full coverage water block on it and get that "premium" look back.
No, I ordered the reference EVGA card for 549 from Scan (they seem to be back to that price at the moment, or at least they were when I looked earlier on this morning - they went up to 595 20 minutes after I'd placed my order.

I don't see the point in paying extra for different cooling solutions or overclocked cards. I can easily achieve the same thing myself using Afterburner or Precision X and increasing the fan speed or using a custom profile. Fan noise doesn't bother me as my PC is stood on a carpet on noise-reducing rubber feet so even at 85% I cannot hear my GTX 680 fans when I'm playing a game as the PC is well out of the range of my ears.
   
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Default 05-24-2013, 18:21 | posts: 8,343 | Location: Urban`Jungle

^
I doubt it, not on that temp and not those clocks.

Reference across the interwebz

Overclocked
Core Clock: 1013MHz (1050mhz)
Boost Clock: 1100~1176MHz (1090mhz)

Custom Gigabyte
Overclocked
Core Clock: 1013MHz (1038mhz)
Boost Clock: 1202MHz (1100mhz)


Custom Evga
Overclocked
Core Clock: 1082MHz (1067mhz)
Boost Clock: up-to 1254MHz (1118mhz)



Speaking of DP, I've just spotted DP performance at anadtech and its similar to 580GTX, that's hell of a crippling lol


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Default 05-24-2013, 18:47 | posts: 5,666 | Location: Switzerland

Its even worse if you look their OpenCL benchmark with DP...

It was to expect, they have restrict DP to 1/24 ( like 680).

Now on benchmark who dont forcibly use DP.. things are a bit better. ( at least between 580 > 780 )

( I dont put Luxmark ( who is a no go for Kepler anyway )




( Will be interesting to get some CUDA results )

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Default 05-24-2013, 18:59 | posts: 2,386 | Location: Netherlands

For those interested it's a good idea to dive deep into THG's 2013 workstation charts. THG already had a Titan specific workstation review last month...
   
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Default 05-24-2013, 19:30 | posts: 8,343 | Location: Urban`Jungle

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Its even worse if you look their OpenCL benchmark with DP...

It was to expect, they have restrict DP to 1/24 ( like 680).

Now on benchmark who dont forcibly use DP.. things are a bit better. ( at least between 580 > 780 )
Yeah it should be better by SP since it has 4tflops vs ~ 1.7tflops by 580GTX.
   
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Default 05-25-2013, 01:21 | posts: 516 | Location: Toronto

Well I stand corrected. Those temperatures are absolutely INSANE. What's the weight of the EVGA heatsink?
   
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Default 05-25-2013, 04:52 | posts: 78 | Location: Blackhawk, CA

Cant wait to get my hands on three of these.... With 3gb of vram, I shouldn't run into any issues with triple 1080p 120hz monitors.
   
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Default 05-25-2013, 04:52 | posts: 548

@Hillbert ,
on 'overclocking' page under 'original' the boost clock is 9006mhz.
Nice review by the way.
   
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Still confused about the launch of the $1k Titan just to have this card be released soon after with similar performance at a much lower cost.
   
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Default 05-26-2013, 12:31 | posts: 1,196 | Location: Southampton, UK

They did the same with 680 release only to bring out the 670 a month later. I guess it makes the 780 look like a better deal compared to a titan even if it is 549 ..
   
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Default 05-26-2013, 12:54 | posts: 2,386 | Location: Netherlands

The 780 GPUs were piling up in the bins because they're not sold as a Tesla part, Titan may look like a profitable part at $1k but the Tesla K20X costs EIGHT times as much, hence is way more profitable per GPU. Like nVidia have told us, they were amazed to sell that many Titans in such a short period. So not only do they prefer selling $7-8k Teslas over $1k Titans, but also left-over, third rate silicon 'junk' as $650 780s. And it's funny to see the junk keep up with the big boy when half its die is completely dead. Talk about wasted silicon.

Prices at IBM:
14 SMX Tesla K20X= $7,399 = $1k Titan
13 SMX Tesla K20 = $4,975 = no Geforce
12 SMX LEFTOVER = $650 Geforce 780

Let's just assume the 12SMX part was already on the original Kepler roadmap as the 760 or something...

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