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Kepler Drivers: Nvidia, stop that 70C "throttling" Nonsense please
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Default Kepler Drivers: Nvidia, stop that 70C "throttling" Nonsense please - 04-26-2013, 18:06 | posts: 132 | Location: in the matrix

Please Nvidia, increase that 70C threshold - it's silly to start "throttling" at 70C.
(I know it's done in the drivers, not in the BIOS!!).

You can increase this to 75C or 80C, what is the reasoning for "throttling" once the GPU hits 70C?

By the way I say "throttling", aware that the term as such is not correct since the "throttling" actually means that boost will not go that high - but it comes out as the same thing.
   
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Default 04-26-2013, 18:14 | posts: 159

I don't think this is an Nvidia thing. I say that because My galaxy GC 670 does not throttle at all. I can hit well over 80c without throttling.. so I believe this may be a manufacturer bios issue.
   
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I don't think this is an Nvidia thing. I say that because My galaxy GC 670 does not throttle at all. I can hit well over 80c without throttling.. so I believe this may be a manufacturer bios issue.
+1 for this my 3 SLI of Galaxies GTX680 dont even at 86C
   
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Default 04-26-2013, 18:34 | posts: 1,822

It's to reduce the RMA and for those who abuse there cards and keep asking for a new one.That is maybe one of the reasons if not the only one.

My ex-650ti 2gb from Gainward had the same at 55C.
   
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Default 04-26-2013, 18:39 | posts: 75 | Location: Sydney , Australia

Agreed with OP cut the power saving / throttling **** or give us a straight forward option to disable it
   
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Default 04-26-2013, 18:57 | posts: 439

I don't mind a throttle, but 70c is too low to have any kind of throttling. The throttle and voltage lowering should come into play at 85-90 if at all.
   
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Default 04-26-2013, 19:14 | posts: 178 | Location: Portsmouth, UK

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It's to reduce the RMA and for those who abuse there cards and keep asking for a new one.That is maybe one of the reasons if not the only one.

My ex-650ti 2gb from Gainward had the same at 55C.
Your card throttled at 55c?

No wonder it's an ex-650 Ti.
   
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Default 04-26-2013, 19:26 | posts: 159

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Please Nvidia, increase that 70C threshold - it's silly to start "throttling" at 70C.
(I know it's done in the drivers, not in the BIOS!!).

You can increase this to 75C or 80C, what is the reasoning for "throttling" once the GPU hits 70C?

By the way I say "throttling", aware that the term as such is not correct since the "throttling" actually means that boost will not go that high - but it comes out as the same thing.
If it was done in the drivers then EVERY card would throttle. Again.. Galaxy cards do not throttle. So it HAS to be the bios.
   
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Default 04-26-2013, 19:36 | posts: 783

I don't want it completely removed since it really might save a couple of cards, but I agree that 70C is too low, that's an everyday temperature in the Summer and any card should be able to easily handle it.
   
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Default 04-26-2013, 19:44 | posts: 132 | Location: in the matrix

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If it was done in the drivers then EVERY card would throttle. Again.. Galaxy cards do not throttle. So it HAS to be the bios.
I didn't know that Galaxy cards don't (temp-)throttle, interesting to say the least. I had reason to believe it's done in the drivers since there were several driver releases where they addressed issues with throttling - I still think that the hardware/bios only makes the numbers available (temps, TDP etc.) and the drivers do the rest.

I agree also that there is SOME sense in regards to keeping RMA low and simply to protect cards (preowner of my 660 TI had it at 300W with modded BIOS and 2.1V - quite sure such idiocy would otherwise have smoked the card) - NEVERTHELESS 70C is unrealistically low. NV knows that, GK-104 can tolerate a max. of 97C, there is no reason for "throttling" at 70C. 70C is astonishingly cool under load for a GPU.
   
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Default 04-26-2013, 20:15 | posts: 1,822

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Your card throttled at 55c?

No wonder it's an ex-650 Ti.
Because i got i great deal with 2 6870 1GB, for different machines, for almost the same price that i sold the 650ti 2gb.

Yes it thottled at 55C, but i managed to mod my mK-13 and fit it there.No noise, overclocked at 1183mhz.Couldn't get any far because was limited by voltage.

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Default 04-26-2013, 22:04 | posts: 3,092 | Location: Germany

Thanks to a slightly modified Windforce block my card doesn't even see 70C.
The heat Kepler puts out is so low that 70C shouldn't be a "real" issue. Some older generations would have required a good water block to keep them below 65 at all times.
   
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Your card throttled at 55c?

No wonder it's an ex-650 Ti.
Maybe because the 650 ti cards are very cool even at 100% usage. I put one in my mothers computer, it never goes over 50c, not even when I oc it a little. I dont know if this is the reason, but It could be.
   
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Default 04-27-2013, 00:58 | posts: 159

my old 8800 ultra ran at like 70 idle

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* See my latest post !!!

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Default 04-27-2013, 16:17 | posts: 132 | Location: in the matrix

wow....if that works.... thanks a ton, will try later!

Edit: Doesn't seem to work on my 660 TI, it's still "throttling" once it gets to 70C. Interesting find tho.

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def doesnt work
   
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maybe u are doing something wrong...
   
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theres only 1 setting and then click apply?
   
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Default 04-27-2013, 18:37 | posts: 50 | Location: Brazil

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theres only 1 setting and then click apply?
first Click "create powermizer settings..."
then check ""Overheat Slowdown Overhide"" and select "disable overheat slowdown"

click INSTANT APPLY..
   
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Default 04-27-2013, 19:35 | posts: 132 | Location: in the matrix

It's weird you said it WORKS on your GTX670? Then wondering why it wont work on my GTX 660 TI. Definitely goes from 1228 to 1215 when it reaches 70C.

I did what you said and also rebooted.
   
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Default 04-27-2013, 19:48 | posts: 50 | Location: Brazil

but go below 1215 ? if not..its fine... seems just keeppler boost disabled... see if the speed go down after 75 C oor more.. like 1100mhz or below... ( u need to apply powermizer each time windows boot )

ps; ALSO , if TDP go UP to max value.. the clock will decrease a little bit.. seems to be this.. try increase POWER to 120% or 125%

also.. do the test with GPU-zZ RENDER TEST.. like i did

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Default 04-27-2013, 19:56 | posts: 18,722 | Location: New Jersey, USA

dont work, what I did was scale back my oc from winter 1280/7200 completely stable 1.21v to 1241/7114 1.175 volts
   
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Default 04-27-2013, 20:33 | posts: 132 | Location: in the matrix

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but go below 1215 ? if not..its fine... seems just keeppler boost disabled... see if the speed go down after 75 C oor more.. like 1100mhz or below... ( u need to apply powermizer each time windows boot )

ps; ALSO , if TDP go UP to max value.. the clock will decrease a little bit.. seems to be this.. try increase POWER to 120% or 125%

also.. do the test with GPU-zZ RENDER TEST.. like i did
Well I don't see it as a "problem" in that sense, I just wanted to know whether there is a way to stop the "throttling". Personally I dont care whether its 1228 or 1215.

The ONLY time I would see temps over 74C is with FarCry 3 (when I play many hours), there is also no way on earth I would see anywhere close to to 70C with the test in GPU-Z, this only uses my GPU like 60%

Why would you have 74C with this test?

As for the rest, as said I tested already with Kombustor/FC etc. and this tool but definitely the temperature throttling still kicks in.

MAYBE you have a different driver or it's a BIOS thing that it can be disabled with SOME cards and with others not.

Edit: Ok, cannot be driver since I also use 320.00
   
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his fan speed was at 25%, I tested in both heaven and valley and I began throttling at 70c ish, like always
   
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