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Default Intel Ivy Bridge-E Core i7-4960X benchmarks leak - 04-25-2013, 20:02 | posts: 19,618 | Location: Guru3D testlab

Check out some benchmark results of Intel's Core i7-4960X Ivy Bridge-E" processor as Asian tech board Coolaler decided to leak them. The chip was compared directly to the Core i7-3970X ...

Intel Ivy Bridge-E Core i7-4960X benchmarks leak
   
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Default 04-25-2013, 20:05 | posts: 4,162 | Location: Not Far North Enough (England)

Given Asrock support Xeons on their X79 boards AND overclocking... I sense an upgrade soon
   
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Default 04-25-2013, 21:25 | posts: 17,191 | Location: New Jersey, USA

oooh, Think I will go with the k model, I dont want to buy another quad core cpu
   
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Default 04-25-2013, 21:28 | posts: 5,672 | Location: Urban`Jungle

Looks useless, if it were 8 core i would reconsider, i7 4770k it is.
   
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Default 04-25-2013, 21:31 | posts: 12,047 | Location: USA

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Looks useless, if it were 8 core i would reconsider, i7 4770k it is.
I use to say that too, until I jumpped on a 6 core processor. Haven't looked back since.
   
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I use to say that too, until I jumpped on a 6 core processor. Haven't looked back since.
are the ftw+ 680`s your cards or are they clients?
I had to drop down to 1254 due to warm weather
what clocks did you get out of em?
   
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Default 04-25-2013, 22:07 | posts: 12,047 | Location: USA

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are the ftw+ 680`s your cards or are they clients?
I had to drop down to 1254 due to warm weather
what clocks did you get out of em?
It was my main rig until my wife decided to hijack it for her side work and decided she wasn't giving it back. With her being gone for a week, I can actually use it again. But i've modded the bios to boost to 1267MHz. That's the highest they will go anyways. Everything is under water though, so my temps are pretty good.
   
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Do we know how many cores the full IB-E die has?
   
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Default 04-25-2013, 22:20 | posts: 12,047 | Location: USA

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Do we know how many cores the full IB-E die has?
8 cores with 20MB of L3 cache. I assume those 8 core is the Xeon model and the desktop counterpart will have 2 cores and some of that cache disabled.


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Here's an TPU article on it
http://www.techpowerup.com/174811/To...Six-Cores.html

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Default 04-25-2013, 22:23 | posts: 684 | Location: UK

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Looks useless, if it were 8 core i would reconsider, i7 4770k it is.
Looks useless? What is that supposed to mean?

You'd buy an 8 core or a 4 core but not 6, that makes no sense at all.


For me it's all about overclocking potential, if it can hit 4.5ghz on air, I will definitely be tempted.
   
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Default 04-25-2013, 22:30 | posts: 5,672 | Location: Urban`Jungle

because 6 cores on a dead socket is useless. If it were a 8 core then yeah and by Haswell i could always slide in Broadwell and be a little more to date, even if its a fake 8 threaded cpu.


I dont do heavy multi media, but i know i will benefit from HT non the less. And Haswell new 7way branch will be more efficient (also HT, bigger registers) then 5way IB ever will be, that's why.

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Default 04-25-2013, 23:38 | posts: 815 | Location: Eden, NY

Their numbering sucks so mainstream lga 1155 sandy bridge is I7-3770k and I7-4770k is haswell but ivy-e bridge is I7-4960x is the same number series as the haswell that makes no sense.
   
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There are reasons for Intel to have those 2 cores disabled:

- Better yields
- Contains the CPU development rhythms

With AMD unable to challenge, what reason do they have to sell the fully enabled core?
   
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Default 04-26-2013, 05:28 | posts: 1,413 | Location: Japan, Soka

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Looks useless? What is that supposed to mean?

You'd buy an 8 core or a 4 core but not 6, that makes no sense at all.


For me it's all about overclocking potential, if it can hit 4.5ghz on air, I will definitely be tempted.
Sorry I couldn't help but to ask. Overclock that monster to do what? Gaming?


   
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Default 04-26-2013, 06:33 | posts: 23 | Location: Spain

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Sorry I couldn't help but to ask. Overclock that monster to do what? Gaming?
Obvioulsy, to raise synth bench scores. Moreover..."if it ain't broke, it needs more tweaking"
   
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Default 04-26-2013, 09:37 | posts: 684 | Location: UK

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Sorry I couldn't help but to ask. Overclock that monster to do what? Gaming?
Yes. I expect more games to benefit from 6 cores in the next year or so (these wont be released for some time) but there will certainly be a lot of games that don't.

If I were to get IVY-E, I wouldn't want signficantly worse performance in games that don't benefit from more cores, so I would also want to be able to reach a decent clockspeed.
   
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Default 04-26-2013, 09:56 | posts: 5,203 | Location: Switzerland

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I use to say that too, until I jumpped on a 6 core processor. Haven't looked back since.
you will upgrade ? for 5-8% gain from your 6cores SandyB-E to IvyB-E ? Dont you think it could have been better they release a 8cores / 16T IB-E, at least the performance difference would have been interessant.. ( I can understand they dont want launch it outside their Xeon Lines anyway. )

The question is not really to know if it is a good jump from a quadcore , but more from a SB-E 6cores to an IB-E. 6cores. I hope they really overclock better of the actual SB-E, otherwise, even this few % gain will even be negate.

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because 6 cores on a dead socket is useless. If it were a 8 core then yeah and by Haswell i could always slide in Broadwell and be a little more to date, even if its a fake 8 threaded cpu.
Ah OK, 8 cores would be fine but 6 cores is useless, I really have no idea what you're taking about!

Dead socket - when was the last time you upgraded your cpu without changing your motherboard? Broadwell is just a die shrink Haswell so will be the equivalent of going from a 2700k to 3700k. Now that's a useless upgrade!
   
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Default 04-26-2013, 10:48 | posts: 195 | Location: Dublin

5 to 10 %... muhahaha, great news!!! no reason to upgrade my 3930K which is running @ 4.8 and not reaching 70 degrees until haswell at least. and with the crappy specs of future consoles I have a feeling it will take a long time until my CPU will be the bottleneck. BF3 maxxed out wont even take it to 35% with most cores scratching their ba..s
   
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Default 04-26-2013, 11:16 | posts: 5,672 | Location: Urban`Jungle

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Ah OK, 8 cores would be fine but 6 cores is useless, I really have no idea what you're taking about!

Dead socket - when was the last time you upgraded your cpu without changing your motherboard? Broadwell is just a die shrink Haswell so will be the equivalent of going from a 2700k to 3700k. Now that's a useless upgrade!


Ok onemore time, if I would want to invest in yes a dead socket, i would at least want to buy a 8 core so it would last longer, much longer.. But I dont see any excitement in a 6 core, might as well get new tech aka Haswell 4 core HT and be done with it, sorry that's my pov

And how do you even know what will be new in broadwell? judging by your reply you dont and no it wont be just a die shrink, SB to IB proved it, there were still some small perf. improvements up to 10-15% by certain games.

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Ok onemore time, if I would want to invest in yes a dead socket, i would at least want to buy a 8 core so it would last longer, much longer.. But I dont see any excitement in a 6 core, might as well get new tech aka Haswell 4 core HT and be done with it, sorry that's my pov

And how do you even know what will be new in broadwell? judging by your reply you dont and no it wont be just a die shrink, SB to IB proved it, there were still some small perf. improvements up to 10-15% by certain games.
You don't have any need for a 6 core but you would get a 8 core. That just doesn't make any sense! You can buy an 8 core zeon for ~$2000 so I don't know what you're complaining about.

Your assertion that because you don't need a 6 core, it is 'useless' is just nonesense.

Sounds like you think an upgrade from a 2700k to 3700k is worth it? Again, that just makes no sense at all to me.

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I use to say that too, until I jumpped on a 6 core processor. Haven't looked back since.
I said to myself a few years ago that I would only upgrade my quad core i7-920 to a six- or eight-core CPU because that would offer me better future-proofing. However, since then I've seen benchmarks where the six-core i7-3960 was actually no faster for the vast majority of games than a quad-core; in fact, because of the design constraints of having six cores the i7-3960 was actually slower than a quad-core i7-3770 because the latter could be overclocked higher.

The fact that most games don't even use quad-core CPUs efficiently nevermind six- or eight-core ones. Maybe they will in the future but, right now, there is little point in buying those CPUs only you do a lot of non-games tasks that benefit from multi-threading such as video encoding or whatnot.
   
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I said to myself a few years ago that I would only upgrade my quad core i7-920 to a six- or eight-core CPU because that would offer me better future-proofing. However, since then I've seen benchmarks where the six-core i7-3960 was actually no faster for the vast majority of games than a quad-core; in fact, because of the design constraints of having six cores the i7-3960 was actually slower than a quad-core i7-3770 because the latter could be overclocked higher.

The fact that most games don't even use quad-core CPUs efficiently nevermind six- or eight-core ones. Maybe they will in the future but, right now, there is little point in buying those CPUs only you do a lot of non-games tasks that benefit from multi-threading such as video encoding or whatnot.
I totally agree with this approach. But given that IVY-E wont be out for a while, Crysis 3 did benefit from 6 cores and next gen console are just round the corner, I think IVY-E might be an option for gamers when it comes out. We'll just have to wait and see how it pans out.
   
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Obvioulsy, to raise synth bench scores. Moreover..."if it ain't broke, it needs more tweaking"
This is so right, thought annoyingly I've hit a wall with my current CPU at 4.53 GHz that it won't go past for love nor money, upgrade time nearing .

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I totally agree with this approach. But given that IVY-E wont be out for a while, Crysis 3 did benefit from 6 cores and next gen console are just round the corner, I think IVY-E might be an option for gamers when it comes out. We'll just have to wait and see how it pans out.
I'm hoping to grab one of the 8/10 core Xeons and stick that in an Asrock board. BCLOCK overclock that sucker
   
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