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Unhappy AMD Radeon HD 8870m Drivers!? - 04-22-2013, 19:28 | posts: 18

Hello, i try to search and search and search and nothing, amd dont have recent drivers for 8870m?
I have an samsung 770z7e with 8870m and some games are with low fps for not having an recent driver update.

I appreciate a help from u guys.
   
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Default 04-22-2013, 20:02 | posts: 9,562 | Location: Sweden

Which games?

I did a search and as for the GPU this seems to be a 7000 series GPU model but rebranded / OEM (I got really confused by that initially too but it seems like it's a fairly common practice.) but it should have pretty recent default drivers from what I found.

Unsure if there's any update actually, I don't think any of the recent driver releases (Unsure about the latest beta, I think it was for the 7790 though.) supports the 8000 mobile series properly yet.
(I couldn't find anything specific by searching around, driver seems to be from late December 2012 so it shouldn't be a issue but I could be wrong.)

EDIT: Then there's power saving functionality, GPU throttling due to power saving or heat and other factors to take into account in regards to performance.
(I think this GPU matches the specifications of the 7870 but again I'm not 100% certain and it's the mobile variant.)

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Default 04-22-2013, 20:45 | posts: 18

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Which games?

I did a search and as for the GPU this seems to be a 7000 series GPU model but rebranded / OEM (I got really confused by that initially too but it seems like it's a fairly common practice.) but it should have pretty recent default drivers from what I found.

Unsure if there's any update actually, I don't think any of the recent driver releases (Unsure about the latest beta, I think it was for the 7790 though.) supports the 8000 mobile series properly yet.
(I couldn't find anything specific by searching around, driver seems to be from late December 2012 so it shouldn't be a issue but I could be wrong.)

EDIT: Then there's power saving functionality, GPU throttling due to power saving or heat and other factors to take into account in regards to performance.
(I think this GPU matches the specifications of the 7870 but again I'm not 100% certain and it's the mobile variant.)
Hi,
Thanks for your reply.
No, when i play i put on max performance.
Mafia II, Age of Empires Online, GTA IV Episodes From Liberty City, and some others.

And the other part its gpu-z (doesnt start and i have the last version) and msi afterburn doesnt work too on this gpu.

On SW Update (program from samsung for drivers) says i have amd version: 9.3.5.0...

If any could reply i would appreciate it!

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Default 04-22-2013, 21:07 | posts: 1,363 | Location: EU, CZ, Brno

you should know that mobile 8xxxm series are bit upgraded 7xxxm with advanced power saving features.
One of them is TDP power limiter. So if card runs over certain temperature it lowers clocks.

You can try RadeonPro to check in game clock speeds. do not try to set overdrive with it, just monitor clock behavior.
If it fluctuates while you play then it's temperature problem.

I never had 8xxxm laptop GPU at hand to test how or if this feature is actually in play.
If it's this case RadeonPro may help by using fps limiter to 60fps. This will not force GPU to work frames which will not go to display therefore reducing heat a bit at easy times allowing bit better behavior at heavy scenes till thermal limit is reached.

If it throttles due to temperature you may try to check dust level in blower.
   
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Default 04-22-2013, 22:32 | posts: 191

Oh you have issues with AMD mobile drivers? Yeah... Sorry, that is standard from AMD. It's their policy, take your money, and then laugh at you. They didn't have functional drivers for my 7970M until November of 2012, I purchased it in May 2012. And it still has issues today. So yeah..

Have a blast with your notebook AMD.
   
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Default 04-22-2013, 22:49 | posts: 9,940 | Location: Dundee, Scotland

Yep, upgrading drivers is a total mess and guaranteed to either not work or break all my drivers to the point of spending a day fixing it.

Not touching them from now on, they work, any slight driver performance boost isn't worth it.
   
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Default 04-23-2013, 00:19 | posts: 55

http://leshcatlabs.net/
   
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Default 04-23-2013, 10:00 | posts: 294

If it come with Intel + AMD switchable graphic, your best bet is to ask Leshcat to include your GPU into his UnifL driver.
   
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Default 04-23-2013, 21:43 | posts: 18

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you should know that mobile 8xxxm series are bit upgraded 7xxxm with advanced power saving features.
One of them is TDP power limiter. So if card runs over certain temperature it lowers clocks.

You can try RadeonPro to check in game clock speeds. do not try to set overdrive with it, just monitor clock behavior.
If it fluctuates while you play then it's temperature problem.

I never had 8xxxm laptop GPU at hand to test how or if this feature is actually in play.
If it's this case RadeonPro may help by using fps limiter to 60fps. This will not force GPU to work frames which will not go to display therefore reducing heat a bit at easy times allowing bit better behavior at heavy scenes till thermal limit is reached.

If it throttles due to temperature you may try to check dust level in blower.
Hi, thanks for your tip, i use FurMark for gpu test and goes to 100% of gpu usage, its using all clocks. Core at: 775MHz memory at 1125MHz.
Temperature doesnt goes more than 70șc...

I will try to contact Leshcat to see if he solve it

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Default 04-23-2013, 23:26 | posts: 442

If it's switchable with Intel, try the Leshcat one (but I don't know if it have 8k series support). If not, try to install it like e.g. 7850 card via hardware manager - have a disk update drivers method...

BTW sometimes the problem is not AMD, but manufacturer of notebook, who don't release drivers for the card, that's totally normal for all brands so don't blame only AMD...

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Default 04-24-2013, 22:51 | posts: 26

I have the same laptop and the same problem :/ No new drivers from Samsung and AMD ATI...
Even the newest drivers 13.4 doesn't support 8870M.
   
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Default 04-24-2013, 23:00 | posts: 18

Ok here is some 'strange' situation, when i try to install 'AMD Catalyst 13.5 BETA 2 Mobile' it says my graphics are the recent one it shoes version: 9.3.5.0 (the one installed by SW update from Samsung) when i choose custom installation but that version was supposed to be the 12.102.3.0000, right? (i even try to disable the driver signature enforcement, but nothing). So i uninstalled all drivers, and when i tried to run 'AMD Catalyst 13.5 BETA 2 Mobile' its shoes me only this option to install: 'generator of installation of amd catalyst' no drivers, nothing Im getting crazy with this situation

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I have the same laptop and the same problem :/ No new drivers from Samsung and AMD ATI...
Even the newest drivers 13.4 doesn't support 8870M.
Thanks god im not the only one I thought was only me
   
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Default 04-25-2013, 06:40 | posts: 26

This 'strange situation' is with all of ati last drivers. I tried the same but without success.
Maybe Samsung will upgrade this drivers on SW Update (many programs were upgraded)

Did you flash bios to newest version (SW Update 3-rd one) ??? Have you noticed any difference ?

I'm not the only one too
   
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Default 04-25-2013, 12:26 | posts: 18

Yes i have flashed the new bios with no difference... At last i don't have notified it...
Or the newest drivers aren't compatible yet with this laptop, or samsung doesn't allow to install other drivers from ati without being from SWU.
   
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Default 04-25-2013, 14:36 | posts: 294

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I have the same laptop and the same problem :/ No new drivers from Samsung and AMD ATI...
Even the newest drivers 13.4 doesn't support 8870M.
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Yes i have flashed the new bios with no difference... At last i don't have notified it...
Or the newest drivers aren't compatible yet with this laptop, or samsung doesn't allow to install other drivers from ati without being from SWU.
Relax.. 8870M is still fairly new, AMD haven't officially include them in their latest driver. If you guys really desperate, do a manual install using 7870M entry since it just a rebadged.

PM Leshcat's in this forum and ask him to include 8870M in his next release. Don't forget to give him the HardwareIds of your GPU.
   
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Default 04-25-2013, 16:48 | posts: 7

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If you guys really desperate, do a manual install using 7870M entry since it just a rebadged.
What is the procedure to do the manual (7870M) installation?
   
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Default 04-25-2013, 19:53 | posts: 294

Not recommended to do this. Extract the latest 13.5 mobility enduro driver beforehand.

1. Right click your HD8870M in device manager and select "Update driver software"
2. "Browse my computer for driver software"
3. "Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer"
4. "Have disk"
5. Browse to "..\Packages\Drivers\Display\W86A_INF\" (64 bit)
6. Select the file that start with C7 if u're using Win7 and C8 for Win8.
6. Untick "Show Compatible Hardware"
7. Pick "HD7800M"
   
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Default 04-25-2013, 20:12 | posts: 7

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Not recommended to do this. Extract the latest 13.5 mobility enduro driver beforehand.

1. Right click your HD8870M in device manager and select "Update driver software"
2. "Browse my computer for driver software"
3. "Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer"
4. "Have disk"
5. Browse to "..\Packages\Drivers\Display\W86A_INF\" (64 bit)
6. Select the file that start with C7 if u're using Win7 and C8 for Win8.
6. Untick "Show Compatible Hardware"
7. Pick "HD7800M"
So is there no correct way to install 8870M, since they are not supported in the mobility drivers?
   
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Default 04-25-2013, 23:56 | posts: 18

I already sent a pm to Leshcat, lets see if he reply, last time he login was on day 20 of this month.
Or i think its better wait for an release from amd, if we force any driver installation we might get into problems.
   
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Default 04-26-2013, 08:52 | posts: 7

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I already sent a pm to Leshcat, lets see if he reply, last time he login was on day 20 of this month.
Or i think its better wait for an release from amd, if we force any driver installation we might get into problems.
pfaf09, what driver are you running, since you have 8870M in your sig.?
   
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Default 04-26-2013, 10:38 | posts: 294

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I already sent a pm to Leshcat, lets see if he reply, last time he login was on day 20 of this month.
Or i think its better wait for an release from amd, if we force any driver installation we might get into problems.
maybe you can post a comment on his website, asked him to check guru3d forum pm.
   
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Default 04-26-2013, 11:37 | posts: 18

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pfaf09, what driver are you running, since you have 8870M in your sig.?
Im using 9.3.5.0 by SW Update.

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maybe you can post a comment on his website, asked him to check guru3d forum pm.
Thanks i will try
   
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Default 04-26-2013, 12:34 | posts: 7

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Im using 9.3.5.0 by SW Update.


Are they working ok? In modern games like BF3, Bioshock and so on? I'm looking at a laptop with 8870M GPU...

v9.3.5.0 is pretty old I think..
   
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Yes its old, some games are getting me with low fps, i try tomb raider and should be better for this graphic
   
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Default 04-26-2013, 14:15 | posts: 1,538 | Location: shropshire,UK

See gaming performance section.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-...k.89376.0.html
   
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