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Samsung starts production 10nm-class 128Gbit TLC NAND flash memory
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Default Samsung starts production 10nm-class 128Gbit TLC NAND flash memory - 04-12-2013, 08:53 | posts: 21,323 | Location: Guru3D testlab

Samsung started mass production of 10nm-class 3-bit-per-cell (TLC) NAND flash memory chips with a capacity of 128Gb. TLC flash memory offers lower costs than MLC flash memory but has lower endurance. ...

Samsung starts production 10nm-class 128Gbit TLC NAND flash memory
   
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Default 04-12-2013, 09:42 | posts: 72 | Location: PA

so what happens from here assuming they do get to 7nm and 5nm?

maybe they need to work on implementing other technology's to bring in faster performance and longer battery life like DDr4 memory controllers instead of DDr2 and better firmware and more complex architectures. last but not least is a new SATA standard because the current one has been bottlenecked for the last 3yrs and is do for an upgrade!

Graphene would be the next logical step and after that Diamond! maybe?
   
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Default 04-12-2013, 09:52 | posts: 13,567 | Location: USA

dafuq did you just say????
   
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Default 04-12-2013, 11:25 | posts: 546

Diamond????
Most lol-able prediction i have ever heard.
   
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Default 04-12-2013, 11:29 | posts: 1,377 | Location: Inside My Thoughts..

I'm sure kenoh is onto something there. But the problem is that I doubt that even him knows what it is.

Anw back on topic. Hilbert or anyone else care to elaborate on the below? Thank you.

"TLC flash memory offers lower costs than MLC flash memory but has lower endurance"

By lower endurance what does it mean precisely and by how much? And compared to what or which other flash memory?
   
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Cool "Diamond???? Most lol-able prediction i have ever heard." - 04-12-2013, 12:21 | posts: 72 | Location: PA

Seems like some people need to be updated with the times...LOL

http://www.geek.com/chips/81ghz-diam...reated-551147/

http://news.discovery.com/tech/diamo...ercomputer.htm

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/1...r-in-a-diamond

obviously Diamond is a natural evolution of grapheme in nature so....

I can see Diamond quantum computing in about 20yrs so maybe 2029...if you know what I mean?
   
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Default 04-12-2013, 12:27 | posts: 72 | Location: PA

[QUOTE=Koniakki;4575296]I'm sure kenoh is onto something there. But the problem is that I doubt that even him knows what it is.

I'm well aware of what I'm talking about! honestly you could expect to see diamond based computing in consumer hands within 100yrs. but it will happen!

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Default 04-12-2013, 16:32 | posts: 6,440 | Location: Chilling

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I'm sure kenoh is onto something there. But the problem is that I doubt that even him knows what it is.

Anw back on topic. Hilbert or anyone else care to elaborate on the below? Thank you.

"TLC flash memory offers lower costs than MLC flash memory but has lower endurance"

By lower endurance what does it mean precisely and by how much? And compared to what or which other flash memory?
MLC = 3,000 PE cycles at 20nm
TLC = 1,000 PE cycles at 20nm

It's amazing, we're almost at the limit.
   
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Default 04-12-2013, 20:21 | posts: 546

How diamond is even coming into possibility?
It does not meet the firstest criteria along with other, abundance.
   
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Default 04-12-2013, 20:26 | posts: 4,903 | Location: Washington DC

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How diamond is even coming into possibility?
It does not meet the firstest criteria along with other, abundance.
Maybe Lil Wayne can donate those stupid diamond teeth he has
   
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Default 04-12-2013, 22:01 | posts: 546

^lol. Even with those donate,maximum 32 ssd would be made?:p
(1ssd per tooth)
   
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Default 04-12-2013, 22:07 | posts: 7,811

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Maybe Lil Wayne can donate those stupid diamond teeth he has
When people cite Diamond as a source for future computing materials, they're generally talking about Synthetic Diamond rather than the stuff you mine. It's actually pretty viable for some things, processors for example.

Check this: http://www.geek.com/chips/81ghz-diam...reated-551147/

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Default 04-12-2013, 22:21 | posts: 7,512 | Location: GTA, Canada

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How diamond is even coming into possibility?
It does not meet the firstest criteria along with other, abundance.
They would not use natural diamonds, they'd have a factory making artificial ones.

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Default 04-12-2013, 22:29 | posts: 546

^is it that easy to synthasize diamond , i mean simple enough to produce in a large scale? I don't know, just asking.
   
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Default 04-12-2013, 22:48 | posts: 7,512 | Location: GTA, Canada

They wouldn't need as much as you think, so production wouldn't be what I would call "large scale". But the answer to your question is yes.
   
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Default 04-12-2013, 22:52 | posts: 546

^ok, then. Lets see when this 'diamond' era arrive....
   
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Default 04-13-2013, 08:05 | posts: 72 | Location: PA

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^ok, then. Lets see when this 'diamond' era arrive....
Graphene first" then Diamond later!

id say in about 50yrs but with certain components using Diamond and others using Graphene kind of like how gold and other metals are used for more efficient quality parts because there more conductive for a much longer life span of microprocessors. Pure Diamond based processors will come much later.
   
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Default 04-13-2013, 10:34 | posts: 546

^u are expressing these possibilities with such a confidence. I hope u and i would visit this thread 50yrs later with diamond pc or whatever tech the pc would run on.
Sure, i will lough seeing my own post, what a useless topic we wasted our time posting about.
   
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Default 04-13-2013, 14:48 | posts: 1,643 | Location: Ipswich UK

GTX2000 with diamond Boost oh and PhysX+

diamond boost build in storage on Gpu to install your games with rapid load option

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Natural diamond is both too costly and too impure to use in processors (yes, natural diamond is impure, it's the impurities that give them their colour etc).
   
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