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Sony to launch 4K TVs this month and a 4k-mediaplayer
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Default Sony to launch 4K TVs this month and a 4k-mediaplayer - 04-08-2013, 09:42 | posts: 21,572 | Location: Guru3D testlab

Sony has announced the prices of itsÂ*4k resolution TVs. The cheapest model will cost roughly 5000 USD, 3900 EUR. The top of the line 65" model XBR-65X900A will cost roughly 2000 USD more. Both t...

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Default 04-08-2013, 09:43 | posts: 13,796 | Location: USA

Now all we need are the 4K Blu-rays
   
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Default 04-08-2013, 09:52 | posts: 23,577 | Location: Netherlands

"The cheapest model will cost roughly 500 USD, 3900 EUR"

see the price difference ?
   
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Default 04-08-2013, 10:04 | posts: 9,769 | Location: UK

Fly to the US and buy, much cheaper lol.

Why are Sony re-inventing the wheel.
There is already a colour standard that runs from 30bit to 48bit called Deep Color / xvYCC.
   
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Default 04-08-2013, 10:16 | posts: 119 | Location: Perth, Western Australia

Missing a few 0's =P
"The cheapest model will cost roughly 5000 USD, 3900 EUR. The top of the line 65" model XBR-65X900A will cost roughly 2000 USD more."
   
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Default 04-08-2013, 11:29 | posts: 497

...the cheapest 3900, alright, sure i am gonna buy such an expensive tv, they evolve faster than pc and mobile phones nowadays...
   
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Default 04-08-2013, 16:58 | posts: 1,307 | Location: UK

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This is kick ass.
   
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Default 04-08-2013, 17:52 | posts: 1,377 | Location: Inside My Thoughts..

And one will need a Rig with 3930k along with 2x or 3x Titans to be able to play at that Res. NO THANK YOU SIR!

Although the ones that can afford it most will probably be able to afford the above mentioned Rig or better too.

So I will hold on my Sammy 59" and its measly 1080p Res for now.
   
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Default 04-08-2013, 18:09 | posts: 3,633 | Location: USA

edge lit led killed that.... I say pointless still it will be years before that res is addopted as main stream. Im not a fan of upscaling
   
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Default 04-08-2013, 18:52 | posts: 1,307 | Location: UK

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And one will need a Rig with 3930k along with 2x or 3x Titans to be able to play at that Res. NO THANK YOU SIR!

Although the ones that can afford it most will probably be able to afford the above mentioned Rig or better too.

So I will hold on my Sammy 59" and its measly 1080p Res for now.
Input lag on a screen like that would make it home cinema primarily.

PC connection might only accept a 1080p signal, or interpret a 1080p signal. Need more information to say for sure.
   
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Default 04-08-2013, 19:00 | posts: 3,839 | Location: The Netherlands

Hmm, 4K Mediaplayer. Does that mean like 200GB Rips?
   
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Default 04-08-2013, 20:47 | posts: 362 | Location: RI, USA

They should work on true led tv's and not trying to force us to go to 4k, which there is no content for and the companies don't even put out full hd yet.
   
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Default 04-08-2013, 20:53 | posts: 9,769 | Location: UK

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Hmm, 4K Mediaplayer. Does that mean like 200GB Rips?
H265 4K TV only needs double the bandwidth of H264 1080p TV.
Pretty good.
   
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Default 04-09-2013, 02:13 | posts: 75 | Location: PA

well I just bought me a Seiki 50" Slim LED 4KTV for $1,300 that I will use as a computer monitor and will move to my bedroom when I get a bigger tv like maybe that vizio 70" if it comes out for a reasonable price?

$5,000 for a 55" is just way to much for an increased resolution when it's made with the same LED panels available for full HD today!
   
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Default 04-09-2013, 19:06 | posts: 4,292 | Location: MI, USA

I want. I also want one to be about 24-30" so I can have a reasonably sized screen for my 'puter.
   
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well I just bought me a Seiki 50" Slim LED 4KTV for $1,300 that I will use as a computer monitor and will move to my bedroom when I get a bigger tv like maybe that vizio 70" if it comes out for a reasonable price?

$5,000 for a 55" is just way to much for an increased resolution when it's made with the same LED panels available for full HD today!
What are you on about? A 50" 4K for $1300? 4K?! On which planet? I was shocked when I heard about these 4K sets for $7000 and $5000. Just a few months ago these things were lowest $19000! I don't think you know what you're talking about pal.
   
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What are you on about? A 50" 4K for $1300? 4K?! On which planet? I was shocked when I heard about these 4K sets for $7000 and $5000. Just a few months ago these things were lowest $19000! I don't think you know what you're talking about pal.
...apparently he's correct

though i really gotta wonder the quality of it...i have some seiki tvs at my work, and i'm not impressed...

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=7674736

according to google, it used to be $1300, but is now $1500
   
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Sooo, cheap 4k displays for PC's in one or two years?
About time if you ask me.
   
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Sooo, cheap 4k displays for PC's in one or two years?
About time if you ask me.
Not until our graphics cards can surpass 2560x1600 res.
   
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Default 04-16-2013, 15:12 | posts: 12,225 | Location: England

I'm about as interested in 4K TVs as I was 3DTVs, i.e. not interested at all. I cannot see 3D so that technology was a waste for me plus I hate the idea of having to wear glasses to view it anyway. And 4K will be pointless for about 5 years as there won't be much in the way of actual 4K content for years. I read that 4K movie downloads will be in the region of 100 GB too so I think it'll remain an elitist tech for the forseeable future. 3DTVs have been around about, what, five years now and the amount of 3D content is still sparse. I think that is a good indicator of how long 4K will take before it becomes practical.

Most people won't care about 4K and the only reason they own 1080p and/or 3DTVs now is because they were the only ones on offer when they bought a new TV. A lot of people I know don't change their TVs whenever new technology comes out, they only do so when their old ones break down and they have to buy a replacement.
   
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Default 04-16-2013, 15:49 | posts: 1,307 | Location: UK

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Sooo, cheap 4k displays for PC's in one or two years?
About time if you ask me.
What would be the point?

Reference monitor for 4K editing/color correction? Unlikely, but so long as the color space is correct, the resolution of the screen is mostly unimportant - and most would have access to a 4K projector for client visits anyhow.

Gaming? Not unless games companies are prepared to invest in creating 4K texture maps would it be worth it, and as rightly pointed out above me; graphics cards have limitations currently. As do graphics engines, and I question the speed/performance currently of a games engine and graphics card.

Browsing the net? the majority of websites do not have resolutions above a certain amount, or do they offer more than 16.7 mill colors - hence why lots of websites have massive blank areas on the screen, because they were designed to cover 1024x768 tablet users and said 'screw it' to anyone above that baseline.

two years?

Try 2020 for mainstream 4K to overtake 1080P - and by then it'll be 10K, making 4K seem 'so 2013'.

RED Camera company has already made a 6K cinema camera LINK.
   
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Default 04-16-2013, 16:27 | posts: 11,098 | Location: Finland

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What would be the point?

Reference monitor for 4K editing/color correction? Unlikely, but so long as the color space is correct, the resolution of the screen is mostly unimportant - and most would have access to a 4K projector for client visits anyhow.

Gaming? Not unless games companies are prepared to invest in creating 4K texture maps would it be worth it, and as rightly pointed out above me; graphics cards have limitations currently. As do graphics engines, and I question the speed/performance currently of a games engine and graphics card.

Browsing the net? the majority of websites do not have resolutions above a certain amount, or do they offer more than 16.7 mill colors - hence why lots of websites have massive blank areas on the screen, because they were designed to cover 1024x768 tablet users and said 'screw it' to anyone above that baseline.

two years?

Try 2020 for mainstream 4K to overtake 1080P - and by then it'll be 10K, making 4K seem 'so 2013'.

RED Camera company has already made a 6K cinema camera LINK.
Websites aren't an issue, that's easily fixed with scaling. Also upscaling 1080p content to 4K is really straight forward and would probably look better due to dense pixels than on native 1080p screen, pixel doubling without fancy scaling would look good.

The faster we reach 4K the better because the would force GPU makers to do something for higher resolution performance.
   
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Default 04-17-2013, 02:02 | posts: 1,307 | Location: UK

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Websites aren't an issue, that's easily fixed with scaling. Also upscaling 1080p content to 4K is really straight forward and would probably look better due to dense pixels than on native 1080p screen, pixel doubling without fancy scaling would look good.

The faster we reach 4K the better because the would force GPU makers to do something for higher resolution performance.
Disagree. We need to get to wherever were going naturally and organically.

We don't need 4K monitors for prosumer or consumer markets yet, we just don't.

The issues it raises now will be reduced in time, but to race there for no reason other than its a bigger number is misdirected.
   
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