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Default Creative Fatal1ty 800 headset - 03-29-2013, 16:33 | posts: 77

I ran a search but couldn't find a thread.

Worth buying? Should I get something else? This kit appears to be universally approved of everywhere I look.

But does anyone have a better choice for similar cash?
   
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Default 03-29-2013, 17:02 | posts: 4,928 | Location: Washington DC

I have both the USB and the analog versions. Do NOT buy the USB version. I've had nothing but problems with that one.

They fit my head perfectly though so I think they are pretty comfortable. They aren't the best quality either but for the price they are pretty decent.
   
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Default 03-29-2013, 17:08 | posts: 77

Thanks. Comfort is important but clarity of the mic is something I'd like to know more about. If you could comment it would be appreciated.

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Default 03-29-2013, 17:37 | posts: 4,928 | Location: Washington DC

Mic quality is nice and clear. I use it almost every day and none of my friends have complained that they couldn't hear me.
   
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Default 03-29-2013, 18:02 | posts: 77

Nice. That's what I wanted to know. Thanks man.
   
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Default 03-29-2013, 18:28 | posts: 2,010 | Location: Sault Ste. Marie Ont. CA

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I have both the USB and the analog versions. Do NOT buy the USB version. I've had nothing but problems with that one.

They fit my head perfectly though so I think they are pretty comfortable. They aren't the best quality either but for the price they are pretty decent.
This guy is right on. Whatever you end up choosing,make sure it's analog.
   
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Default 03-29-2013, 22:26 | posts: 77

Thanks all, and ESlik for backing up. Very hard to get this stuff right when I'm not the 000000.1 percent and have to think hard about buying things that are important to me.
   
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Default 03-29-2013, 22:48 | posts: 9,188 | Location: Toledo

Oh god, don't buy this. The audio quality is so bad. I just shelved mine. They're also pretty uncomfortable over long periods. The mic quality is decent I guess.
   
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Default 03-29-2013, 23:03 | posts: 7,823

Was going to comment earlier myself, but 20 bucks for headphones and a mic, what can you do?
   
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Default 03-29-2013, 23:26 | posts: 9,188 | Location: Toledo

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Was going to comment earlier myself, but 20 bucks for headphones and a mic, what can you do?
I suppose that's true, unfortunately.
   
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Default 03-29-2013, 23:32 | posts: 7,823

You never know, maybe one day he'll want to spend a little more. I've said it before and will again, audio is severely overlooked for PC setups. Not just for gaming but in general.
   
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Default 03-29-2013, 23:52 | posts: 9,188 | Location: Toledo

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You never know, maybe one day he'll want to spend a little more. I've said it before and will again, audio is severely overlooked for PC setups. Not just for gaming but in general.
Yeah I've known this, I've stalked the audio section for years but it always seems like an afterthought, like it's not really something worth spending money on.
   
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Default 03-29-2013, 23:59 | posts: 7,823

Yup. Most people are, it's all about giving things a chance. People are naturally very visually orientated, and while they might love music and/or audio they don't often consider that there can be a difference in sound quality. It takes very little (At least with decent advice pertaining to budget) to make a massive difference. I'm glad you bit the bullet. The more that realise it the better, as I said to you once: I hate to think of anyone using such an awful headset.

I'm really glad that you're happy with your new sound setup. I must admit when recommending stuff like that it's a little worrying. Almost every time you do people are happy, but you get that one in a handful that genuinely cannot tell the difference for whatever reason. The CAL (D1001) + Z is a fantastic combo, and I'm guessing it's made a bigger difference to your enjoyment of computer related media than most other upgrades over the past 5 years.

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Default 03-30-2013, 00:15 | posts: 9,188 | Location: Toledo

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Yup. Most people are, it's all about giving things a chance. People are naturally very visually orientated, and while they might love music and/or audio they don't often consider that there can be a difference in sound quality. It takes very little (At least with decent advice pertaining to budget) to make a massive difference. I'm glad you bit the bullet. The more that realise it the better, as I said to you once: I hate to think of anyone using such an awful headset.

I'm really glad that you're happy with your new sound setup. I must admit when recommending stuff like that it's a little worrying. Almost every time you do people are happy, but you get that one in a handful that genuinely cannot tell the difference for whatever reason. The CAL (D1001) + Z is a fantastic combo, and I'm guessing it's made a bigger difference to your enjoyment of computer related media than most other upgrades over the past 5 years.
In all honesty, the sound difference was almost too much at first. My brain wasn't used to hearing so much detail, and still really isn't. listening to music right now is like the actual activity I'm using my PC for, instead of just an addition to whatever else I was doing. Didn't really expect that.
   
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Default 03-30-2013, 00:29 | posts: 7,823

I think the fact you went from that Fatality set punctuated the difference a lot more than might have been normal for someone jumping into what is essentially a lower end mid-fi setup. You've almost skipped the entry level 'good' audio segment entirely. Which probably makes things a lot more punctuated, and there's nothing wrong with that if you can do it in a good price range. It can become addictive once you understand what you've been missing. With visuals, you still see what is there even though it looks bad. With audio there can be entire segments of a track missing.

It's partly why I recommended not spending upward of $300 to begin with, the setup you have is fantastic but if you do choose to upgrade there's still room for a feeling of value. Personally speaking I'm already using some pretty decent gear, so there's a major diminishing return problem for me. I want better but find it hard to get without feeling I'm being kicked in the balls by my wallet, trust me.

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Default 03-30-2013, 06:05 | posts: 18

For a USB Headset get the Logitech G35
   
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Default 03-30-2013, 06:54 | posts: 3,832 | Location: Sweden

i had the steelseries frost (usb) and can tell you (with confidence) to stay the **** away. i'm actually never touching a usb headset again.
   
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Default 03-30-2013, 08:36 | posts: 146

is the usb bad? why you say buy analog so bad!? i plan on buying the logiech g35 but its usb, what is the difrents?
   
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Default 03-30-2013, 19:50 | posts: 7,823

USB Headsets have built in soundcards on the line, which are usually very low quality.
   
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Default 03-31-2013, 09:36 | posts: 146

so the g35 will be low quality?-_-
   
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Default 03-31-2013, 09:59 | posts: 11,305 | Location: Finland

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so the g35 will be low quality?-_-
"Low quality" to put it nicely it seems.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/529963/logi...headset-review
   
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Default 03-31-2013, 15:04 | posts: 1,672 | Location: Pennsylvania

The mic Quality of this head set is not bad it is very good. The downside of this headset for me is the mic input jack on the headset died on me which rendered the headset useless after 6months. (The mic on the headset is removable) Plus I had the analog version.

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Default 03-31-2013, 15:14 | posts: 26,734 | Location: Hampshire, UK

Guys, stay away from usb headsets. Also I would recommend to stay away from gaming headsets in general. the "good" ones cost a lot of money and sound average at best. It's much better to buy a decent set of audiophile headphones and if you're on a tight budget pair them with a cheap Xonar DG or similar card and you have great entry level setup for games (dolby headphone) and music. My AD 700 + Xonar DG cost me 100 in total and I'm so happy with the sound! Seriously
   
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Default 05-02-2013, 18:52 | posts: 77

Hey all (again) Thx for the advice. And Eclap. Yeah, made me think.

Finished my contract, bux in the bank as I speak. I held off from the fatality owing to your advice. A lot of stuff you've all advised is in full size PCI slots that I don't have.

1/ I run a giant notebook/laptop 8930G.. Yeah it's 4 years old now but it's still great because of the lovely screen and i've upgraded over the years. **Now with 840 pro**

2/ My living room audio is Rotel RA10 series w/ Naim DAC connected via bi-wire silver anniversary to Kef Q7s. I hear pretty well, but I don't expect that sound from headphones.

3/ I want directional 'phones i.e. using Dolby headphone I can hear behind me in two ears. My sound card is the usual 5:1 Realtek but not on motherboard. It's in a mini PCI 1.1 slot (x1). I still have one spare. Plus a spare express card slot that I've never used (amongst the other slots I've never used).

So, now I've got 100s + to spend. Advice gentlemen please.
   
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Default 05-02-2013, 20:32 | posts: 213 | Location: Nottingham

Just my opinion, the headset is great! I've had Bose noise/none noise cancelling headphones in the past, and sure the quality is great. But this headset is roughly 20 quid, and unless you have a reason i.e you want to pay for a badge, then i would suggest just going ahead and buying them. Quality is great, mic i've never had a problem with (used them for years and no-one ever complained, the exact opposite, people kept wanting to know which ones i had so they could get a pair)
The only thing i will say, and this is a just a personal thing... the detachable mic... lord i hate the fact that its detachable. Being me i lost it within 6 months.. but then a friend wanted a cheap pair of headphones, so gave him my headset and i got another one, for another 20 odd quid.
Worth it, and you could spend the other money on something else (just get the none usb version)
EDIT: Just thought i would say, sure there will be a difference between this headset and more expensive ones, but i would compare it to 5ms and 7ms response time on a monitor, you have to really work to notice the difference, if notice it at all. (my guessing most people wouldn't)

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