Guru3D.com Forums

Go Back   Guru3D.com Forums > Videocards > Videocards - NVIDIA Drivers Section
Videocards - NVIDIA Drivers Section In this section you can discuss everything ForceWare driver related. ForceWare (Detonator) drivers are for NVIDIA TNT, Quadro and all GeForce based videocards.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
20-35% Performance Increase, XP + 550ti Users
Old
  (#1)
The General
Ancient Guru
 
The General's Avatar
 
Videocard: PNYGTX 5501GB
Processor: Intel Q6600
Mainboard: HP Cheap
Memory: DDR2 4GB
Soundcard: Headphones
PSU: 550W
Thumbs up 20-35% Performance Increase, XP + 550ti Users - 03-25-2013, 04:13 | posts: 2,943 | Location: MD/CA

Decided to do 2 videos, but this is awesome.

#1 This is my computer specs and my settings are in NCP and in Nvidia Tray tools which i am also using.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvPKwpiRq2E
As you can see i have everything set the highest settings.

#2 This is a quick sample video i made playing NFS 2010 at Max/1920 and Nexuiz 2012 1920/Almost max, shaders i have to turn to high , everything else max. All DX9 of course.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziHph_K38MA

#3 I only tested NFS 2010 and Nexuiz , but i am running them at 1920x1080 and still able to get 50-60 all the time in NFS(depending on the stage, some stages i get 35-50) and 30-35+ in Nexuiz. Never was able to do that in vista or Windows 7.

#4 Here is the interesting thing, using the correct 550 ti drivers 267.59
this is where the increase in performance comes in to play, before i was using the newest 300 series or 290's, nah forget them, use these:

" Nvidia has released new drivers to support the newly launched GTX 550 Ti and the GTS 450. " " This driver adds support for the new GeForce GTX 550 Ti GPU "

Drivers allows me to game at 1920x1080 at max or near max with ease. Now keep in mind i am using XP, but hey anyone with a 550 ti i suggest you try out these old drivers, you may get a boost too. Let me know if you get the boost using win7 or vista or whatever you're using. I am so happy
I plan to test crysis 2 later

Last edited by The General; 03-25-2013 at 04:20.
   
Reply With Quote
 
Old
  (#2)
yosef019
Maha Guru
 
yosef019's Avatar
 
Videocard: GTX770 4gb @1250mhz
Processor: i5 3570k 4.6 1.2v NH-D14
Mainboard: P8Z68-V
Memory: 8GB 2133 ARES CL9 2T
Soundcard: SB Recon3D Pro Fatality
PSU: TX 650W
Default 03-25-2013, 05:20 | posts: 1,710 | Location: Israel - Haifa

can you compare 314.2X drivers with windows 8 vs xp ?
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#3)
lucidus
Ancient Guru
 
lucidus's Avatar
 
Videocard: 780
Processor: i7 920 3.7GHz
Mainboard: Asus P6T Deluxe
Memory: 6GB
Soundcard: Onboard
PSU: Corsair TX750
Default 03-25-2013, 05:31 | posts: 6,666 | Location: Dubai

You have Netscape Navigator installed?! Damn you're retro
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#4)
The General
Ancient Guru
 
The General's Avatar
 
Videocard: PNYGTX 5501GB
Processor: Intel Q6600
Mainboard: HP Cheap
Memory: DDR2 4GB
Soundcard: Headphones
PSU: 550W
Default 03-25-2013, 05:35 | posts: 2,943 | Location: MD/CA

I don't have windows 8 and i have no intention on installing that horrible OS. But the 314 drivers work just fine in XP, but i could never play any of the games i tested at 1920x1024 at max and still get the performance i get. In NFS 2010 with the 314 drivers i can only play at 1600x900 at max i would get 19-35, but with the 267.59, i get 50-60 , or 45-60 all the time. Bottom line, 267.59 blows the 314 or 300 series in general out the water when it comes to performance. Sorry but i have no plans to reinstall back to win7 to do any testing.
   
Reply With Quote
 
Old
  (#5)
The General
Ancient Guru
 
The General's Avatar
 
Videocard: PNYGTX 5501GB
Processor: Intel Q6600
Mainboard: HP Cheap
Memory: DDR2 4GB
Soundcard: Headphones
PSU: 550W
Default 03-25-2013, 05:37 | posts: 2,943 | Location: MD/CA

Quote:
Originally Posted by lucidus View Post
You have Netscape Navigator installed?! Damn you're retro
Firefox for main browsing and youtube, websites, forums.
Seamonkey for adding beautiful hot women ( actresses only ) to the bookmark section.
Netscape for adding porn stars and porn sites .

If you want those bookmarks, pm me and you can browse for hours on all the hot women i have listed.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#6)
HeavyHemi
Ancient Guru
 
HeavyHemi's Avatar
 
Videocard: SLI TITAN SC @ 1097/3105
Processor: i7 980x 4.3 Ghz 1.35 v
Mainboard: EVGA X58 E758
Memory: 12Gb Corsair Dom 2000
Soundcard: Asus Xonar Phoebus
PSU: CORSAIR AX1200
Default 03-25-2013, 06:12 | posts: 3,515 | Location: Wooing whilst wearing only socks.

Why in the world would someone use ancient drivers that don't have optimization for games in the last two years or don't support any GPU but the GTS 450 and the 550ti without modifying them?
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#7)
The General
Ancient Guru
 
The General's Avatar
 
Videocard: PNYGTX 5501GB
Processor: Intel Q6600
Mainboard: HP Cheap
Memory: DDR2 4GB
Soundcard: Headphones
PSU: 550W
Default 03-25-2013, 06:37 | posts: 2,943 | Location: MD/CA

Quote:
Originally Posted by HeavyHemi View Post
Why in the world would someone use ancient drivers that don't have optimization for games in the last two years or don't support any GPU but the GTS 450 and the 550ti without modifying them?
I think the title says 550 users, so its really aim at them. I think i made that clear. Also about ancient drivers doesn't mean anything, i think playing NFS 2010 at the settings i am playing and getting 50-60 frames or 40-50 all the time at 1920x1080 max proves that. All because something is old, doesn't mean it may not work better than something new.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#8)
Prophet
Master Guru
 
Prophet's Avatar
 
Videocard: Msi 680 Gtx Twin Frozr
Processor: Intel Sb@4.7
Mainboard: Asus P8Z68V Progen3
Memory: 12 Gb Kingston
Soundcard: Asus Essence STX|Akg k701
PSU: Corsair 1200w
Default 03-25-2013, 07:21 | posts: 557 | Location: Heaven

Quote:
Originally Posted by HeavyHemi View Post
Why in the world would someone use ancient drivers that don't have optimization for games in the last two years or don't support any GPU but the GTS 450 and the 550ti without modifying them?
Maybe its time you understand that the latest isnt always the greatest. Even if ther are optimizations they are more often that not a few %. Taken that those few % actually work as supposed the underlying driver can differentiate more.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#9)
rewt
Maha Guru
 
Videocard: √
Processor: √
Mainboard: √
Memory: √
Soundcard: √
PSU: √
Default 03-25-2013, 18:08 | posts: 1,244 | Location: Americas

I gained nearly 1000 points in Unigine Valley using these drivers on low settings. However with these drivers on ultra settings I actually lost points compared to newer drivers at ultra.

It's as if older drivers were more efficient with CPU (in some cases) and newer drivers are more efficient with GPU.

Last edited by rewt; 03-25-2013 at 18:19.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#10)
bishi
Master Guru
 
Videocard: GTX780 3GB SLI @+250/+650
Processor: i7 2600K @ 4.8Ghz
Mainboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3P-B3
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB
Soundcard: G930
PSU: 850W XFX
Default 03-27-2013, 00:36 | posts: 311 | Location: London

I just find this hilarious that you use 3 different browsers for different purposes. So inefficient.

Netscape for porn. Lol.
   
Reply With Quote
 
Old
  (#11)
The General
Ancient Guru
 
The General's Avatar
 
Videocard: PNYGTX 5501GB
Processor: Intel Q6600
Mainboard: HP Cheap
Memory: DDR2 4GB
Soundcard: Headphones
PSU: 550W
Default 03-27-2013, 00:50 | posts: 2,943 | Location: MD/CA

Quote:
Originally Posted by bishi View Post
I just find this hilarious that you use 3 different browsers for different purposes. So inefficient.
Well just in case one browser goes down, i have 2 back ups

Quote:
Originally Posted by bishi View Post
Netscape for porn. Lol.
Been using it for about 6 years now, no virus, no problems. Very safe and because netscape is so old , less resources, faster pages loading, um videos Pm me if you want a copy of the bookmark i have in it
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#12)
Bukkake
Member Guru
 
Videocard: EVGA SC GTX 780Ti OC
Processor: i7 940 @ 3.7hz
Mainboard: dx58so
Memory: 8GB DDR3-2133
Soundcard: Onboard
PSU: 650 watt
Default 03-30-2013, 19:46 | posts: 79 | Location: in the Kingdom

does this work for 560ti?
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#13)
chuuey
Master Guru
 
chuuey's Avatar
 
Videocard: MSI 660Ti Power Edition
Processor: Intel Core i7 3930k
Mainboard: MSI X79MA-GD45
Memory: DDR3 / Kingston / 16GB
Soundcard: Accuphase DP-400
PSU: Seasonic X-660
Default 03-30-2013, 19:50 | posts: 196 | Location: Japan

Well, it's true that all of my DX9 titles i played in my old XP install, run in fact faster on XP, compared to windows7, with latest drivers though hehe
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#14)
The General
Ancient Guru
 
The General's Avatar
 
Videocard: PNYGTX 5501GB
Processor: Intel Q6600
Mainboard: HP Cheap
Memory: DDR2 4GB
Soundcard: Headphones
PSU: 550W
Default 03-31-2013, 01:07 | posts: 2,943 | Location: MD/CA

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bukkake View Post
does this work for 560ti?
On XP it should. Infact, use any of the 270 drivers with XP vs the 300 series and you will see what Im talking about. I tested the 314 vs the 275.33 or 270.61 and the frame rate is cut in half, like 50%. So the 270 drivers work great. I also tested this in windows7 , and its horrible with any driver. Xp just gives better frame rates overall.

Quote:
Originally Posted by chuuey View Post
Well, it's true that all of my DX9 titles i played in my old XP install, run in fact faster on XP, compared to windows7, with latest drivers though hehe
You use the latest drivers using XP, do that and try out the 275.33 and you will see a big difference in performance.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#15)
chuuey
Master Guru
 
chuuey's Avatar
 
Videocard: MSI 660Ti Power Edition
Processor: Intel Core i7 3930k
Mainboard: MSI X79MA-GD45
Memory: DDR3 / Kingston / 16GB
Soundcard: Accuphase DP-400
PSU: Seasonic X-660
Default 03-31-2013, 14:27 | posts: 196 | Location: Japan

Quote:
Originally Posted by The General View Post
On XP it should. Infact, use any of the 270 drivers with XP vs the 300 series and you will see what Im talking about. I tested the 314 vs the 275.33 or 270.61 and the frame rate is cut in half, like 50%. So the 270 drivers work great. I also tested this in windows7 , and its horrible with any driver. Xp just gives better frame rates overall.


You use the latest drivers using XP, do that and try out the 275.33 and you will see a big difference in performance.
Don't think they work with the 600 series though
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#16)
CPC_RedDawn
Ancient Guru
 
CPC_RedDawn's Avatar
 
Videocard: 3GB HD7970OC/2GB HD7770
Processor: 4770K@4.5GHz/Q6600@3.6GHz
Mainboard: Z87-GD65 / P5K PREMIUM
Memory: 16GB@1866MHz/4GB@1066MHz
Soundcard: Creative SoundBlaster Z
PSU: 1200W/900W
Default 03-31-2013, 14:40 | posts: 5,760 | Location: Wolverhampton/United Kingdom

Just out of curiosity General are you using more than 1 monitor? Because in the video you have Multi Display Performance mode selected in Nvidia panel... If your using 1 display you should have single display performance mode enabled.

Also nice trolling, both here and the Vista thread you just made. Top trolling!
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#17)
The General
Ancient Guru
 
The General's Avatar
 
Videocard: PNYGTX 5501GB
Processor: Intel Q6600
Mainboard: HP Cheap
Memory: DDR2 4GB
Soundcard: Headphones
PSU: 550W
Default 03-31-2013, 20:13 | posts: 2,943 | Location: MD/CA

Quote:
Originally Posted by chuuey View Post
Don't think they work with the 600 series though
270 or 260 drivers, nah. unless someone mods them right?
Also if you're not using XP there's no need to do it, because well i tested the 260 and 270 drivers using windows 7 with my same set up and there was no change in gaming performance, like it is in Windows XP. Not saying there could of been a driver that did it, but i only tested the ones that i use and tested on xp.

Quote:
Originally Posted by CPC_RedDawn View Post
Just out of curiosity General are you using more than 1 monitor? Because in the video you have Multi Display Performance mode selected in Nvidia panel
Um that's the default nvidia settings, and for the longest which i have been using nvidia cards i never did change that setting. Is it going to do anything to my performance? I mean i always just left it alone.

Quote:
Originally Posted by CPC_RedDawn View Post
Also nice trolling, both here and the Vista thread you just made. Top trolling!
Trolling? What are you talking about? I was using vista, but not anymore. I went back to using XP , whats the problem here?
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#18)
Noisiv
Ancient Guru
 
Videocard: GTX 460 HAWK Talon Attack
Processor: Q6600@3.5GHz
Mainboard: Gigabyte EP-43-DS3L
Memory: 4GB OCZ 5-4-4-4-12
Soundcard: Onboard Realtek ALC888
PSU: Silent Pro M700
Default 03-31-2013, 20:28 | posts: 2,954

275.33 is the first WHQL after NV made sck.775 optimizations in 270 series.
That's where perf. increase comes for you compared to 260 series.

Other than that, it just an ordinary driver. Just like 550 Ti is one among many Fermis.
I very much doubt there is any secret love between the two, or that it performs better than latest set.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#19)
The General
Ancient Guru
 
The General's Avatar
 
Videocard: PNYGTX 5501GB
Processor: Intel Q6600
Mainboard: HP Cheap
Memory: DDR2 4GB
Soundcard: Headphones
PSU: 550W
Default 03-31-2013, 20:47 | posts: 2,943 | Location: MD/CA

Quote:
Originally Posted by Noisiv View Post
275.33 is the first WHQL after NV made sck.775 optimizations in 270 series.
That's where perf. increase comes for you compared to 260 series.
In the video i was using a 260 driver, but i finally switch over to using the 275.50's which performs just like the rest of the 270's drivers , only thing it fixes my riddick AA problem. The 260 and 270 drivers all perform the same performance wise, anything above 270, the 300 cuts my performance in half about 50%.

Note: I have not tested how the 280's or 290's perform using my setup to see how the performance is yet. But the 300 series compared to the 260 or 270 is horrible.

Just more proof that all because something is new doesn't mean anything, i tested Sniper 2 last night with the 275.50 drivers, no problems whatsoever. all max at 1920x1020 high to very high settings, 30-35 frames. Doesn't seem to go any higher than that for some reason, but very smooth , no issues.

Last edited by The General; 03-31-2013 at 20:56.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#20)
Noisiv
Ancient Guru
 
Videocard: GTX 460 HAWK Talon Attack
Processor: Q6600@3.5GHz
Mainboard: Gigabyte EP-43-DS3L
Memory: 4GB OCZ 5-4-4-4-12
Soundcard: Onboard Realtek ALC888
PSU: Silent Pro M700
Default 03-31-2013, 21:12 | posts: 2,954

NFS 2010 and latest driver(s) - I can vouch for this one. Should play beautifully for ya too.

I don't play other games that you mention.

But with latest driver(s), the only game that I can think of that requires some additional intervention is - Sleeping Dogs. Max. pre-rendered frames = 1, because at default I get less performance and sometimes stutter.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#21)
The General
Ancient Guru
 
The General's Avatar
 
Videocard: PNYGTX 5501GB
Processor: Intel Q6600
Mainboard: HP Cheap
Memory: DDR2 4GB
Soundcard: Headphones
PSU: 550W
Default 03-31-2013, 21:18 | posts: 2,943 | Location: MD/CA

Noisiv are you using XP?
If you're not, what drivers are you using and what settings do you have it at?
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#22)
Noisiv
Ancient Guru
 
Videocard: GTX 460 HAWK Talon Attack
Processor: Q6600@3.5GHz
Mainboard: Gigabyte EP-43-DS3L
Memory: 4GB OCZ 5-4-4-4-12
Soundcard: Onboard Realtek ALC888
PSU: Silent Pro M700
Default 03-31-2013, 21:24 | posts: 2,954

Ooh... that little part.

Windows 8 running with Latest WHQL - 314.22.

Settings - mostly default.
I put Single Display(GLOBAL) and Max Power(per game profile)... just in case.

Sometimes overriding Aliasing, fps-capping, forcing VSYNC, AO and AF, lod bias,
but VERY rarely, and only if I am sure that what I'm doing is beneficial.

Last edited by Noisiv; 03-31-2013 at 21:31.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#23)
GhostXL
Ancient Guru
 
GhostXL's Avatar
 
Videocard: ASUS GTX 780 SLI @ 1150
Processor: i7 4790K @ 4.8ghz on H90
Mainboard: ASUS Maximus VII HERO Z97
Memory: G.Skill Trident DDR3 2667
Soundcard: Sound Blaster Z
PSU: CORSAIR AX1200 watt
Default 03-31-2013, 21:30 | posts: 5,576 | Location: PA, USA

Guys stop busting on the General. He is 100% right about using older sets for older hardware.

Some of these newer sets, while they have optimizations for Geforce GTX 6 series and TITAN, will not have the same impact with Geforce GTX 5 series and under.

While it may have BUG fixes, performance gains will not be as likely to be seen on a 550Ti.

with older sets tuned more towards his card at it's release and shortly after, I can see it having an impact on his performance. The fact that he is running XP also can justify his card performing better. He is stuck on DX9, and XP handles DX9 very well still.

I really don't think he has a reason to lie about this, calling him a troll is kinda dumb.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#24)
The General
Ancient Guru
 
The General's Avatar
 
Videocard: PNYGTX 5501GB
Processor: Intel Q6600
Mainboard: HP Cheap
Memory: DDR2 4GB
Soundcard: Headphones
PSU: 550W
Default 03-31-2013, 21:47 | posts: 2,943 | Location: MD/CA

um does anyone know of a program that will show OSD display when recording ?
I tried evga tool, afterburner tool, nvidia tray tools , when recording it , and after viewing the video it doesn't display it.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#25)
Noisiv
Ancient Guru
 
Videocard: GTX 460 HAWK Talon Attack
Processor: Q6600@3.5GHz
Mainboard: Gigabyte EP-43-DS3L
Memory: 4GB OCZ 5-4-4-4-12
Soundcard: Onboard Realtek ALC888
PSU: Silent Pro M700
Default 03-31-2013, 22:28 | posts: 2,954

Action! probably
   
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBulletin Skin developed by: vBStyles.com
Copyright (c) 1995-2014, All Rights Reserved. The Guru of 3D, the Hardware Guru, and 3D Guru are trademarks owned by Hilbert Hagedoorn.