NVIDIA on Tomb Raider performance issues

Hilbert Hagedoorn

NVIDIA made a small statement that acknowledges the performance issues of Tomb Raider on GeForce graphics cards. The new Tomb Raider game is an AMD Gaming Evolved title, and NVIDIA claims it didn't r...

NVIDIA on Tomb Raider performance issues

WhiteLightning · 03-10-2013, 18:47 | posts: 20,495 | Location: Netherlands

"we recommend you do not test Tomb Raider until all of the above issues have been resolved."

Too late Nvidia , ive already finished the game. Cant keep people waiting you hear!

mcarr6 · 03-10-2013, 19:02 | posts: 8 | Location: Los Angeles

I personally don't care about the blame game, but crashes so obvious makes you wonder if CD actually even tested with an Nvidia card.

deathfrag · 03-10-2013, 19:14 | posts: 207 | Location: ALGERIA

"we would like to apologize to GeForce users that are not able to have a great experience playing Tomb Raider"
WTF !!! where is the driver fix ??? your "apologize" can't fix my game problemes .....

Mufflore · 03-10-2013, 19:22 | posts: 9,556 | Location: UK

If it matters that much to you, you should read up.
The game needs a patch as well as a driver update.
How can NVidia help what has happened?

Oh wait, you wouldnt know, yet you still spout

Neo Cyrus · **Memory**: 6GB DDR3-2000 9-9-9-24-1T

Hey at least you guys will get a driver fix and a game patch. I still can't run RAGE without it constantly crashing and being glitched up the wazoo in seemingly random ways.

-Tj- · *Last edited by -Tj-; 03-10-2013 at 20:15.*

^
AMD 7000 series has some hw addons for ID5 engine, guess AMD couldnt fix it with driver.

@ Mufflore

Imo nvidia could have reacted faster and demanded that retail game code sooner, not "tweaking" with some old code for this long.
That's way I think its kinda weak excuse..

I bet it would be much better if they asked for this new code 2-3weeks before release

Mufflore · 03-10-2013, 19:44 | posts: 9,556 | Location: UK

Surely you read what NVidia said?
They werent given the new code until the game was released.
They created a driver based on the older code they were given.
How are they to know that code wont be used in game?

Even if they had received the right code, the game needed a patch anyway.
NVidia couldnt have sorted this out without the game devs providing information they can use AND fixing the code they released.

Aura89 · 03-10-2013, 19:46 | posts: 4,825 | Location: Washington State, USA

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Originally Posted by -Tj-

^
AMD 7000 series some hw addons for ID5 engine, guess AMD couldnt fix it with driver.

@ Mufflore

Imo nvidia could have reacted faster and demanded that retail game code sooner, not "tweaking" with some old code for this long.
That's way I think its kinda weak excuse..

I bet it would be much better if they asked for this new code 2-3weeks before release

how exactly do you know they didn't?

Neo Cyrus · **Memory**: 6GB DDR3-2000 9-9-9-24-1T

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Originally Posted by -Tj-

AMD 7000 series some hw addons for ID5 engine, guess AMD couldnt fix it with driver.

I went to read up on that and couldn't find anything through Bing or Google. Got a link?

deathfrag · 03-10-2013, 20:13 | posts: 207 | Location: ALGERIA

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Originally Posted by Mufflore

If it matters that much to you, you should read up.
The game needs a patch as well as a driver update.
How can NVidia help what has happened?

Oh wait, you wouldnt know, yet you still spout

the patch is already released ! and there is no driver yet

-Tj- · *Last edited by -Tj-; 03-10-2013 at 20:25.*

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Originally Posted by Aura89

how exactly do you know they didn't?

Well Im guessing, they are a big corp. they should have asked more.

Or do you really think SuqareEnix & Eidos said

u nvidia you cant have it, AMD said so.
It can be but I kinda doubt it, this sounds more like nvidia's scenario. Remember BatmanAA lol they actually made anti AMD antialiasing hehe xD

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mufflore

Surely you read what NVidia said?
They werent given the new code until the game was released.
They created a driver based on the older code they were given.
How are they to know that code wont be used in game?

Even if they had received the right code, the game needed a patch anyway.
NVidia couldnt have sorted this out without the game devs providing information they can use AND fixing the code they released.

and yet the game released a 1.8gb patch at release day, I mean if nvidia asked more frequently then those bugs could have been resolved as well, wouldn't you agree?

Ah well.. it is what it is, Imo both messed up - Nvidia, AMD and now its us users that get a ****ty experience in the end

@ Neo Cyrus

"Support for Partially Resident Textures,[9] which enable virtual memory support through DirectX and OpenGL extensions."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_HD_7000_Series

&
http://mrelusive.com/publications/pr...ware_final.pdf

dr.noob · 03-10-2013, 20:17 | posts: 1,092 | Location: Portugal

I finished the game with my 650ti 2gb with no problems at all.

Mufflore · 03-10-2013, 20:17 | posts: 9,556 | Location: UK

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Originally Posted by deathfrag

the patch is already released ! and there is no driver yet

Um and how long do you think it takes to write a driver, test it, make sure it works with the new patch that was released when? ...

Your not with stupid, you are it

The IQ level here is definitely dropping.

WhiteLightning · 03-10-2013, 20:21 | posts: 20,495 | Location: Netherlands

Why pick Nvidia and developers side and not the people who play the game ? it should work at launch

Mufflore · 03-10-2013, 20:21 | posts: 9,556 | Location: UK

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Originally Posted by -Tj-

and yet the game released a 1.8gb patch at release day, I mean if nvidia asked more frequently then those bugs could have been resolved as well, wouldn't you agree?

Huh?
If they dont know they need to ask, why would they ask.
Its up to the devs to release the code to NVidia if its changed, thats their job.

SLI-756 · 03-10-2013, 20:24 | posts: 3,150 | Location: Sunny Scotland

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Originally Posted by WhiteLightning

"we recommend you do not test Tomb Raider until all of the above issues have been resolved."

Too late Nvidia , ive already finished the game. Cant keep people waiting you hear!

Talk to CD, not nvidia cause nvidia are one of the victims in this pitiful show of arrogance.

WhiteLightning · 03-10-2013, 20:25 | posts: 20,495 | Location: Netherlands

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Originally Posted by SLI-756

Talk to CD, not nvidia cause nvidia are one of the victims in this pityful show of arrogance.

the only victims are the people who want to play the game and cant.

SLI-756 · 03-10-2013, 20:27 | posts: 3,150 | Location: Sunny Scotland

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Originally Posted by WhiteLightning

the only victims are the people who want to play the game and cant.

Huh?

so if every new game that got released played crap on AMD cards for weeks then there would be no damage done to AMD reputation then? business as usual eh?
fair play is all we ask, not exclusion.

Mufflore · 03-10-2013, 20:29 | posts: 9,556 | Location: UK

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Originally Posted by WhiteLightning

the only victims are the people who want to play the game and cant.

CD shot themselves in the foot as well because initial sales will be slower due to these issues.
NVidia sales will be slowest.
I havent bought it yet due to them.

WhiteLightning · 03-10-2013, 20:32 | posts: 20,495 | Location: Netherlands

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Originally Posted by SLI-756

Huh?

so if every new game that got released played crap on AMD cards for weeks then there would be no damage done to AMD reputation then? business as usual eh?
fair play is all we ask, not exclusion.

Dont see why it would damage the reputation. Allot of games run crap at launch in case you havent noticed. this is no different.

WhiteLightning · 03-10-2013, 20:34 | posts: 20,495 | Location: Netherlands

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Originally Posted by Mufflore

CD shot themselves in the foot as well because initial sales will be slower due to these issues.
NVidia sales will be slowest.
I havent bought it yet due to them.

Nvidia sales will also be slower because that awesome game program where you get the game for free and 2 other games. its not just this problem that causes slow sales.

SLI-756 · 03-10-2013, 20:37 | posts: 3,150 | Location: Sunny Scotland

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Originally Posted by WhiteLightning

Dont see why it would damage the reputation. Allot of games run crap at launch in case you havent noticed. this is no different.

Yeah i pre-ordered this, you know what? well you see the next amd sponsored game, you suppose i'm gonna pre-order that?
you know two thirds of gamers use nvidias cards?
LOL

WhiteLightning · 03-10-2013, 20:43 | posts: 20,495 | Location: Netherlands

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Originally Posted by SLI-756

Yeah i pre-ordered this, you know what? well you see the next amd sponsored game, you suppose i'm gonna pre-order that?
you know two thirds of gamers use nvidias cards?
LOL

Well ordering a few weeks later is always better then pre-ordering.
i wonder how long you will keep it up though , ive tried myself

Mufflore · 03-10-2013, 20:43 | posts: 9,556 | Location: UK

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Originally Posted by WhiteLightning

Nvidia sales will also be slower because that awesome game program where you get the game for free and 2 other games. its not just this problem that causes slow sales.

Are you arguing for the sake of it?
That has no effect on what is happening due to the code and driver issues.
I could say that sales will be less because of the recession, but it has nothing to do with what is being discussed.