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Valve's Steam Box game system to begin testing in 3-4 months
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Default Valve's Steam Box game system to begin testing in 3-4 months - 03-07-2013, 07:19 | posts: 21,323 | Location: Guru3D testlab

Valve expects to offer prototypes of its upcoming video games console for testing within four months time. The firm's chief executive Gabe Newell revealed the news to the BBC ahead of the British Aca...

Valve's Steam Box game system to begin testing in 3-4 months
   
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I like how Valve just does these random things these days that seem completely pointless. Really, a Steambox? Mac and Linux support for random games? What happened to the days when Valve was a game studio, I mean come on.
   
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Default 03-07-2013, 10:23 | posts: 458 | Location: Portugal

I dont see any harm in expanding their range of products and services, may bring other companies to do the same.
   
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Default 03-07-2013, 10:29 | posts: 2,853

no hl2 ep 3/hl3 news = not interested in valve news
   
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Default 03-07-2013, 11:24 | posts: 1,353 | Location: Australia, QLD

The aim of this is great, bring PC into the living room and all that. But I really don't see how something like this would work, PC games are a completely different beast to console games. Console games are heavily optimized for the specific hardware in those consoles, so they run perfect with no bugs.

Just about every component of this thing would need to be upgradeable, and it basically has to be exactly like a PC with windows and the ability to update video drivers etc. Otherwise it will be a bug fest with hardware that will run PC games well for about three years, and that's about it. Will be interesting to see what they come up with that's for sure.
   
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id buy one
   
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Default 03-07-2013, 12:07 | posts: 18,500 | Location: Turkey

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no hl2 ep 3/hl3 news = not interested in valve news
i will be the only one on this planet who won be playing HL3. i also think iam the only one who stil didn't play Black Mesa thing.

HL= Boring

anyway, Valve; lets see what you got there. maybe you bring something interesting. have no idea how it will effect the markets.
   
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Default 03-07-2013, 12:27 | posts: 542

Gabe: We're proud to be releasing L4D2 soon!

HL Fan: When's HL3 coming out?

Gabe: Portal 2 is going to amazing, it will be arriving later this year.

HL Fan: When's HL3 coming out?

Gabe: We're painstakingly working on our support for Mac OS, it's going to be great!

HL Fan: When's HL3 coming out?

Gabe: Look out everyone we're planning on releasing a Console system!

HL Fan: When's HL3 coming out?

*cricket*

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Default 03-07-2013, 12:31 | posts: 7,190 | Location: Above Earth in a Big Rocket Ship

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I like how Valve just does these random things these days that seem completely pointless. Really, a Steambox? Mac and Linux support for random games? What happened to the days when Valve was a game studio, I mean come on.
Yeah, because bringing PC gaming to the masses is completely pointless.

Valve has multiple teams working internally. They launched Portal 2 not that long ago and are currently in the process of launching Dota 2. Leaks have shown that they are working on a new engine internally and will probably launch a HL3 on that. And Valve has always taken forever to release stuff, so no I don't really remember the days.

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The aim of this is great, bring PC into the living room and all that. But I really don't see how something like this would work, PC games are a completely different beast to console games. Console games are heavily optimized for the specific hardware in those consoles, so they run perfect with no bugs.

Just about every component of this thing would need to be upgradeable, and it basically has to be exactly like a PC with windows and the ability to update video drivers etc. Otherwise it will be a bug fest with hardware that will run PC games well for about three years, and that's about it. Will be interesting to see what they come up with that's for sure.
With the PS4 and "720" being PC hardware I don't see how this is a problem anymore. As long as the platform doesn't constantly shift game developers will know what they need to target.

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Default 03-07-2013, 12:43 | posts: 3,827 | Location: Sweden

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i will be the only one on this planet who won be playing HL3. i also think iam the only one who stil didn't play Black Mesa thing.

HL= Boring

anyway, Valve; lets see what you got there. maybe you bring something interesting. have no idea how it will effect the markets.
nah, i'm with you. never beat a HL game, got bored of the first two back when they were big.
   
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Default 03-07-2013, 14:23 | posts: 2,853

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Gabe: We're proud to be releasing L4D2 soon!

HL Fan: When's HL3 coming out?

Gabe: Portal 2 is going to amazing, it will be arriving later this year.

HL Fan: When's HL3 coming out?

Gabe: We're painstakingly working on our support for Mac OS, it's going to be great!

HL Fan: When's HL3 coming out?

Gabe: Look out everyone we're planning on releasing a Console system!

HL Fan: When's HL3 coming out?

*cricket*

you have hit the nail on the head with this post lol
   
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Default 03-07-2013, 15:19 | posts: 7,190 | Location: Above Earth in a Big Rocket Ship

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you have hit the nail on the head with this post lol
Well I mean he can't answer because Valve doesn't have set schedules or targeted releases. People can shift teams at will, they aren't tied to specific projects. They come in and work on what they want, when it's finished it's finished. It's kind of a dumb question to ask Gabe when you know how the company works.
   
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Default 03-07-2013, 18:52 | posts: 1,353 | Location: Australia, QLD

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With the PS4 and "720" being PC hardware I don't see how this is a problem anymore. As long as the platform doesn't constantly shift game developers will know what they need to target.
They won't be targeting this platform. Its essentially a mini PC that will just install and run steam games as normal PC's do... I'm assuming *shrug*. If this is the case then it will be experiencing the same bugs and possible performance problems that PCs games sometimes suffer. Which are only fixed by game patches and video driver updates. Meaning it won't last like a console, for 10 years.. lol. This is what I meant.

But yeah, it might actually be a console that devs will specifically make games for and sell them on steam, separate from PC games, who knows. Maybe all this has been revealed somewhere but I haven't seen it haha.
   
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Default 03-07-2013, 19:07 | posts: 6,889 | Location: Dubai

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What happened to the days when Valve was a game studio, I mean come on.
Nothing at all. You mean you haven't been flooded with DOTA 2 invites by Valve?
   
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Default 03-07-2013, 19:13 | posts: 23,440 | Location: Hoek van Holland, Netherlands

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Nothing at all. You mean you haven't been flooded with DOTA 2 invites by Valve?
ive got 17 of them.
   
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Default 03-07-2013, 23:26 | posts: 6,889 | Location: Dubai

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ive got 17 of them.
People were buying them for a couple of cents a head when the Market allowed listing I got 11 cents out of 2 invites .. no complaints
   
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Default 03-08-2013, 01:48 | posts: 14,954 | Location: Glasgow

I think this is a huge waste of time and money for Valve.

If they won't subsidise the hardware then it won't be of any challenge to the PS4/720, and won't help bring PC gaming to the masses as it will either be too expensive or too slow.

Unsure a gimmicky heart rate monitoring controller will help things either.

Will be interesting to see, but it looks like a small market to me i don't see why console gamers would be interested and i don't think PC gamers would either.
   
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Default 03-08-2013, 01:50 | posts: 6,889 | Location: Dubai

Just plug in an HDTV to your PC as a secondary or a mirrored monitor and you've got your own steam box. Waste of R&D money.
   
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Default 03-08-2013, 02:16 | posts: 8,805 | Location: Indiana

I think they need something a little more slicker than just Steam Big screen. No HTPC is complete without Netflix..etc. Toss in some PVR and Streaming to other devices in the house, compatabilities with Android/Ios, cloudbox functionality..etc would help get some consumer attention if marketed right and even that might not be enough to shine in the shadows of the PS4/720 without losing money.
   
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Default 03-08-2013, 02:26 | posts: 921

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I think this is a huge waste of time and money for Valve.

Will be interesting to see, but it looks like a small market to me i don't see why console gamers would be interested and i don't think PC gamers would either.
This^

I think consoles will one day be more like easily upgradeable computers. But I don't see the Steam box taking off. People buy consoles to play exclusive titles. And I can't think of too many PC exclusives that aren't already ported to other consoles.

I mean, Portal 2 is on every platform for instance.

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I like how Valve just does these random things these days that seem completely pointless. Really, a Steambox? Mac and Linux support for random games? What happened to the days when Valve was a game studio, I mean come on.
Lol, was having a discussion about this in relation to the mythical fantasy of how great Valve would be to work for, how great the boss less work environment was and how the last game Valve The Game Studio released that was a totally original new IP as well as a total new game that wasn't a development or buyout of a mod of one of their other games where

Totally New Original IP: Left 4 Dead in 2008
New game that wasn't a development of a mod: Portal 2 in 2011

Any other game studio would have gone under long ago if they released games at Valves pace

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I dont see any harm in expanding their range of products and services, may bring other companies to do the same.
They need to get Steam sorted out before they go ahead and try to pile a whole bunch of other people on to the service. I assume they are targeting new customers because if you already have a PC with Steam and a collection of games you would have to be a dribbling imbecile to buy a dedicated Linux based console (assuming the rumours are indeed true) that uses the same service but won't allow you to play the games you already have because their is no Linux version of the game out there.
   
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Default 03-08-2013, 17:23 | posts: 658

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I like how Valve just does these random things these days that seem completely pointless. Really, a Steambox? Mac and Linux support for random games? What happened to the days when Valve was a game studio, I mean come on.
It's called making money.
   
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