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7870 XT vs EVGA 660 SC Signature 3GB
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Default 7870 XT vs EVGA 660 SC Signature 3GB - 03-03-2013, 18:32 | posts: 3

I guest 7870 xt is best the only pro i can found for the 660 is nvidia physx
   
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Default 03-03-2013, 19:44 | posts: 2,059 | Location: Estonia

7870 ofc, why make the topic if you already know the answer?
   
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Default 03-03-2013, 19:57 | posts: 3

I wanted to know the opinion of the forum
   
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Default 03-03-2013, 22:07 | posts: 2,059 | Location: Estonia

Yeah, I know you did.. I was a hypocrite myself for asking the same kinda question.

Anyways, of course pick the 7870 XT. PhysX is pointless.
   
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Default 03-04-2013, 19:12 | posts: 3

So...anyone else?
   
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Default 03-04-2013, 19:34 | posts: 5,437 | Location: Michigan,usa

You can have both a AMD card and GPU physx by doing a hybrid PhysX setup. Where you use say a HD7870 as a main card, and a GT430 or so with at least 96 cuda cores. By using the work around Hybridiz tool Which patches the phsyx runtime files to aloud it to work in the setup. Now if you do not have any games that uses GPU phsyx or hardly play them, then theres no point to even do this.

Some reason when i tried it originally with a 9800GT it didn't work,tho when I tried it with a GT430 that I got back from a RMA of a xfx 6600GT, then it was a different story and worked good in borderland 2 and other games I have that uses gpu phsyx.

As for the two card's since you do not say which country your in, in your profile. I can't go check on any other deals for you. Unless you are outside of the USA. Just go with which ever one you can afford, that has the features that you want.

Because both are good card's, and you can look at a review here on guru site http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages...review,11.html which shows both HD 7870 and GTX 660 SC's and make your choice from it. Now the review is old so, it doesn't take in any account from the 12.11 drivers which increased the HD7 series performance a bit. But it better if you research and make the choice, then blindly take other people advice. Because some times people are bias towards their favor graphics card. No offense to any one.

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Default 03-04-2013, 20:49 | posts: 2,059 | Location: Estonia

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But it better if you research and make the choice, then blindly take other people advice. Because some times people are bias towards their favor graphics card. No offense to any one.
lol, clearly pointing to me of course

The 7870XT will be the better choice, a normal 7870 beats the 660 already. The 660 doesn't compare with the 7870XT, as that card falls more into the 7950/670/660Ti category. Next to an OC'ed (and standard) 7870XT the 660 SC becomes non-existent.

No biased information here.. heck I would be stupid to give you biased information, lol.

Anyways, long story short - 7870XT definitely. If you replaced that 660 SC to "vs 660Ti" in the topic title - it would make a bit more sense.

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Default 03-14-2013, 09:39 | posts: 2,861 | Location: Barrie, ON Canada

I beg to differ, in actual gaming tests the 660 beats the 7850/70.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...gb-review.html
   
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Default 03-14-2013, 09:41 | posts: 1,822

The latest reviews from those folks says AMD has high latencies, at least on CF they are terrible.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...crossfire.html

Another vote for Nvidia.
   
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Default 03-14-2013, 09:54 | posts: 2,861 | Location: Barrie, ON Canada

Thank you, I knew it wasn't just me. I'm not a team green fanboy either. I have had success with both in the past.
   
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Default 03-14-2013, 10:01 | posts: 3,330 | Location: Lebanon

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I beg to differ, in actual gaming tests the 660 beats the 7850/70.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...gb-review.html
Old review. September. 12.11 Betas came out in October.

@Dr. Noob: stick to the point. We aren't discussing CF here. I already replied on that other topic.
   
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Default 03-14-2013, 10:04 | posts: 243 | Location: Poland

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The latest reviews from those folks says AMD has high latencies, at least on CF they are terrible.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...crossfire.html

Another vote for Nvidia.
Latest reviews?2 months ago maybe, now drivers are near perfect, latencies eliminated...
Don't talk if u didn't' dig enough and u have lack of knowledge...
Only advantage NV now is poorly supported by game developers physx, thats all.
Period.
660 is overpriced
   
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Default 03-14-2013, 10:08 | posts: 1,822

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Latest reviews?2 months ago maybe, now drivers are near perfect, latencies eliminated...
Don't talk if u didn't' dig enough and u have lack of knowledge...
Only advantage NV now is poorly supported by game developers physx, thats all.
Period.
660 is overpriced
That review is from yesterday with the NVIDIA 314.14 Beta and AMD 13.2 Beta 7.
   
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Default 03-14-2013, 10:09 | posts: 3,330 | Location: Lebanon

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Latest reviews?2 months ago maybe, now drivers are near perfect, latencies eliminated...
Don't talk if u didn't' dig enough and u have lack of knowledge...
Only advantage NV now is poorly supported by game developers physx, thats all.
Period.
660 is overpriced
Nah man, he's right about CrossFire. Those microstutter issues do not affect single cards. There are workarounds for microstutter, but they involve VSync, FPS caps, FrameRate Control, Dynamic VSync, etc... offered by RadeonPro.

VSync off, CF vs. SLI, SLI is smoother.

Regardless of newer drivers or not, the microstutter issue is still not fixed. Maybe with a memory rewrite we'll see some difference? Let's see.


@Dr. Noob: SLI isn't perfect either, as you can see in your own review. Honestly, with both CF and SLI, I'd enable VSync and wouldn't want to dip below 60FPS.

The SLI frame rate metering works on certain engines and doesn't work too well on others. Nvidia have said so themselves, as I remember. Can't remember the article, though.
   
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Default 03-14-2013, 10:42 | posts: 243 | Location: Poland

Point is, guys, and stick to it, is about ONE card, no sli/cf.
And from my experience, I don't see any stutter, all my games playin smooth(MP3 atm, FC3, Skyrim, WT or WoT, so...
   
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Default 03-14-2013, 13:40 | posts: 2,059 | Location: Estonia

You would be retarded to go with the 660.

7870XT rapes it anytime, sorry to say.
   
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Default 03-14-2013, 13:58 | posts: 1,822

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You would be retarded to go with the 660.

7870XT rapes it anytime, sorry to say.
Yes, the XT is much faster, but does it provide a good gaming experiencie with low latency?!Who knows.
   
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You would be retarded to go with the 660.

7870XT rapes it anytime, sorry to say.
http://www.kitguru.net/components/gr...iti-le-review/

Hardly. Does it score better? Yes Significantly enough to call rape? No It does show that the AMD cards are total juice pigs. I'm not really envious of that.
   
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Nah man, he's right about CrossFire. Those microstutter issues do not affect single cards. There are workarounds for microstutter, but they involve VSync, FPS caps, FrameRate Control, Dynamic VSync, etc... offered by RadeonPro.

VSync off, CF vs. SLI, SLI is smoother.

Regardless of newer drivers or not, the microstutter issue is still not fixed. Maybe with a memory rewrite we'll see some difference? Let's see.


@Dr. Noob: SLI isn't perfect either, as you can see in your own review. Honestly, with both CF and SLI, I'd enable VSync and wouldn't want to dip below 60FPS.

The SLI frame rate metering works on certain engines and doesn't work too well on others. Nvidia have said so themselves, as I remember. Can't remember the article, though.
Sli has advanced very well over the years. Sli is always humming along with benchmarks and my games.
   
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Default 03-14-2013, 19:23 | posts: 2,059 | Location: Estonia

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http://www.kitguru.net/components/gr...iti-le-review/

Hardly. Does it score better? Yes Significantly enough to call rape? No It does show that the AMD cards are total juice pigs. I'm not really envious of that.
Well it doesn't matter since you will never get any AMD card in your life lol.
   
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Well it doesn't matter since you will never get any AMD card in your life lol.
Spoken like a true fanboy. As a matter of fact, I've owned 5 or 6 ATI cards.
Let me see, an old Rage3D, a 9700pro, a 1600XT, a 4870 and a 5770. I have lots of experience with ATI(AMD)cards. Whatever point you're trying to make is lost on me.
   
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same old suspects in threads like these geez
no offense against you twtalor
   
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None taken. If I found an AMD card significantly better at around the same price, I'd snap it up in a heartbeat. 4 or 5fps is not worth it.
   
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I went with sli 680 knowing full well xfire 7970 was faster. I really didnt care
   
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You would be retarded to go with the 660.

7870XT rapes it anytime, sorry to say.
this comment screams "retarded fanboy" lol

i myself w0ould take the 660 regardless of which is faster
   
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