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AMD TressFX Featured in Tomb Raider: Lara Croft Reborn
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Default AMD TressFX Featured in Tomb Raider: Lara Croft Reborn - 02-26-2013, 09:45 | posts: 21,280 | Location: Guru3D testlab

AMD has been teasing with a small TressFX feature for the past couple of days. We can uncover what this really is, it is a new more realistic hair simulation that will be introduced in Tomb Raider: ...

AMD TressFX Featured in Tomb Raider: Lara Croft Reborn
   
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Default 02-26-2013, 09:48 | posts: 890 | Location: Taipei, Taiwan

The differences are pretty impressive. I wonder what kind of perf hit this will have when you toggle it on.
   
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Default 02-26-2013, 10:01 | posts: 52 | Location: Netherlands

i think i prefer the original look.

wile the amount of detail on the tressFX picture seems to be higher, the same could be achieved using higher resolution textures on the hair but oh well... actually most of the offputting low quality aspect of the original could be fixed with textures / higher poly count on the hair and it wouldn't even tax the system that much more.

and the added "hanging hair" that is not part of the original hair just makes it look messy and chaotic (not in a shipwreck way but just crappy) not exactly "A New Frontier of Realism" but that might just be the pictures.

not that Nvidia's effort at hair has been that much better or usable at all.

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Default 02-26-2013, 10:02 | posts: 87 | Location: Bournemouth, UK

Looks amazing. As DarkKnight said, wondering how will the perfomance suffer from this little AMD treat
   
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Default 02-26-2013, 10:03 | posts: 7,971 | Location: Urban`Jungle

WOW!

Now this is some serious stuff, finally after 6-7years!

I will buy it just becuase of that
   
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Default 02-26-2013, 10:11 | posts: 5,587 | Location: Switzerland

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i think i prefer the original look.

wile the amount of detail on the tressFX picture seems to be higher, the same could be achieved using higher resolution textures on the hair but oh well... actually most of the offputting low quality aspect of the original could be fixed with textures / higher poly count on the hair and it wouldn't even tax the system that much more.

and the added "hanging hair" that is not part of the original hair just makes it look messy and chaotic (not in a shipwreck way but just crappy) not exactly "A New Frontier of Realism" but that might just be the pictures.

not that Nvidia's effort at hair has been that much better or usable at all.
You should read the entire description for understand why it is different, basically it is pushed by the wind forces, and movement.. not in the first one.

better to see it in video or in real time instead of compare 2 statics screenshoots.

But i agree we are far of the demonstration of the AMD Havocs Physics ( the dancer ), before Intel buy it (and remove GPGPU from it ) ( 8 years ago )

Look good no, and i wait to see it in movement. ?


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Default 02-26-2013, 10:17 | posts: 52 | Location: Netherlands

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You should read the entire description for understand why it is different, basically it is pushed by the wind forces, and movement.. not in the first one.

better to see it in video or in real time instead of compare 2 statics screenshoots.

But i agree we are far of the demonstration of the AMD Havocs Physics ( the dancer ), before Intel buy it (and remove GPGPU from it ) ( 8 years ago )
ah so it's like clothes in nvidia's APEX/physx... wonder if they ever applied it to hair since it's the exact same principle.

but that indeed looks MUCH better.

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Default 02-26-2013, 10:19 | posts: 2,066

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The differences are pretty impressive. I wonder what kind of perf hit this will have when you toggle it on.
Probably not that much, Alice MR hair was just on CPU.
   
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Default 02-26-2013, 10:21 | posts: 7,971 | Location: Urban`Jungle

^
and just with few sprites, this is more advanced and much better. Idk about perf. impact though, but i presume it would take away at least 5-10fps..

I hope to see this stuff in more upcomming games
   
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Default 02-26-2013, 10:21 | posts: 331 | Location: France

Looks pretty impressive! Let's wait for a video or something but wow. Any chance to see it with nVidia GPU?
   
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Default 02-26-2013, 10:22 | posts: 5,587 | Location: Switzerland

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ah so it's like clothes in nvidia's APEX/physx... wonder if they ever applied it to hair since it's the exact same principal.

but that indeed looks MUCH better.
Nearly the same principle...
   
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Default 02-26-2013, 10:22 | posts: 3,826 | Location: Sweden

looks nice.
   
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Looks pretty impressive! Let's wait for a video or something but wow. Any chance to see it with nVidia GPU?
Its direct compute, imo it will run on Nvidia too.

But 7900 has higher tflops power so im a little worried about NV Fermi GF100/110 performance.

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Default 02-26-2013, 10:26 | posts: 11,987 | Location: new jersey

Looks ok in stills but it may end up looking like rope instead of hair.

Need a vid...oh and i like the shampoo type ad
   
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Default 02-26-2013, 10:29 | posts: 7,971 | Location: Urban`Jungle

^
Imo default non TessFX looks like a rope of hair ;D


Check nvidia's 2010 hair tech demo, im pretty sure it will be something like that, if not better
   
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Default 02-26-2013, 10:34 | posts: 5,587 | Location: Switzerland

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Looks ok in stills but it may end up looking like rope instead of hair.

Need a vid...oh and i like the shampoo type ad
I dont know what some some of them smoke, but well original marketing for sure for the press.

This reboot of the series look definitively excellent..

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Default 02-26-2013, 10:54 | posts: 1,038 | Location: Somewhere in Scotland

Pretty neat!
Really like it.
   
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Got to get myself that shampoo
   
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Such a small thing, but such massive improvements there, beautiful.
   
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Am I the only one here that doesn't care about hair?
   
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Its direct compute, imo it will run on Nvidia too.

But 7900 has higher tflops power so im a little worried about NV Fermi GF100/110 performance.
"TressFX" - I will get maybe good fps on my GTX 480 because I think that GTX 480 is faster or slower than HD 7970* at extreme/insane (hair tessellated) tessellation (eg: Tessmark 0.3.0).

* - attention to ATi-AMD Optimized Tesselation (enabled is (much) faster than disabled/original but enabled is lower polygons.)
   
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Default 02-26-2013, 12:54 | posts: 5,672 | Location: PA, USA

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"TressFX" - I will get maybe good fps on my GTX 480 because I think that GTX 480 is faster or slower than HD 7970* at extreme/insane (hair tessellated) tessellation (eg: Tessmark 0.3.0).

* - attention to ATi-AMD Optimized Tesselation (enabled is (much) faster than disabled/original but enabled is lower polygons.)
Bro your GTX 480 isn't faster than the HD 7970 in anything I'm afraid other than Physx, as AMD doesn't support Nvidia Physx.

Plus this game is optimized on AMD cards, specifically the HD 7 series. So I'm sure there will be an advantage for AMD to some degree.
   
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Am I the only one here that doesn't care about hair?
nope, i mostly care about tits and ass too.

But here we are speaking about graphics, and every improvement it's welcome.
   
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Bro your GTX 480 isn't faster than the HD 7970 in anything I'm afraid other than Physx, as AMD doesn't support Nvidia Physx.

Plus this game is optimized on AMD cards, specifically the HD 7 series. So I'm sure there will be an advantage for AMD to some degree.
Exactly, if the recent specs that got released are to be believed (and they haven't adjusted them) then the NVidia optimization is going to be terrible. They've listed the recommended cards as HD 5850s and a GTX 480s, with the GTX 480 being in a different league and it being placed along side an HD 5850 it doesn't bode well for NVidia.

(This stands even if you change the card to an HD 6850).
   
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Imo default non TessFX looks like a rope of hair ;D
Don't say Rope
   
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