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~$600 World of Warcraft Rig
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Default ~$600 World of Warcraft Rig - 02-11-2013, 21:16 | posts: 6,678 | Location: Portland, Oregon

I've been out of the loop for a while, so what does $600 get you in 2013? This isn't for me....

So far I know the basics are about:
$27 - 4GB DDR3 1600
$55 - 500W PSU
$60 - 500GB HDD
$20 - DVD drive
$35 - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
$30 - Cougar Spike MicroATX case
$10 - extra 120mm fan (optional)

That leaves about $350 to mess around with for the CPU+Mobo+GPU.
It looks like a GTX 650 Ti or AMD 7850 would be ideal. The case I found was $30 and it's MicroATX, so preferably that form factor would be best for this.
   
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Default 02-11-2013, 21:24 | posts: 4,628 | Location: Not Far North Enough (England)

Probably looking AMD FX series, AMD A8/A10 or intel i3. I'm still on X58, so don't ask me for the nitty details
   
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Default 02-11-2013, 21:26 | posts: 828

i3 + 61/75 matx board + gtx650 should be fine for wow
   
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Default 02-11-2013, 22:25 | posts: 209 | Location: Greece

Going with a 500watt PSU is a baaaaad idea.
   
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Default 02-11-2013, 22:31 | posts: 4,838 | Location: Netherlands

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Going with a 500watt PSU is a baaaaad idea.
Why? It will only run WoW with a mid range videocard.

500w will be enough, unless he plans to upgrade later on.
   
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Default 02-11-2013, 22:40 | posts: 6,678 | Location: Portland, Oregon

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Going with a 500watt PSU is a baaaaad idea.
Only if it's a bad PSU.

GTX 650 Ti uses 80-90W on load.
AMD A8-3870K CPU uses about 160W on load it seems.

Even a 430W PSU would be fine, but I only use 430W PSU's for non gaming rigs.
   
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Default 02-11-2013, 23:09 | posts: 209 | Location: Greece

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GTX 650 Ti uses 80-90W on load.
A 500watt of a quality brand might be adequate but most ppl say that. On the box of a GPU it says "Requires a 450watt to run". Most ppl get confused on that and forget everything else.

For the specisic example, a GPU needs 450watt PSU, the CPU will say "requires 120 watt" and so on and so forth.

Going with the absolute minimum is the worst idea ever and the #1 reason of most burnouts and faults.

If you take into account the full load of every part, OC and some fault building or electric company wiring and faults you can see that the safest bet is to have some extra wattage in stock.
   
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Default 02-12-2013, 00:41 | posts: 16,068 | Location: US East Coast

500watt PSU will be fine as long as it's a quality unit....

For WoW....look for a cheap i5 ...2310 or 3350P would work (or 2400, if you can find one cheap). If not in the budget, an i3 2120 would work as well. Go NVidia for graphics....GTX650Ti will work. For a motherboard, the ASRock B75M-DGS would work.



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Default 02-12-2013, 00:43 | posts: 5,128 | Location: FLA,USA

A friend of mine just built a fx 6300 based computer with a 7770 for WoW and he is getting great fps in ultra on 1440x900 and still gets okay fps on 1920x1080 when he plays on his tv. He built his rig for less than $600.
   
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Default 02-12-2013, 00:51 | posts: 16,068 | Location: US East Coast

1440x900 is pretty easy for current and last gen graphics cards....1920x1080 is a different story. He's not pulling that off on Ultra without being below 60fps



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Default 02-12-2013, 01:44 | posts: 6,678 | Location: Portland, Oregon

WoW is still very laggy in heavily populated towns no matter how high end your rig is right?
   
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Default 02-12-2013, 01:58 | posts: 16,068 | Location: US East Coast

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WoW is still very laggy in heavily populated towns no matter how high end your rig is right?
Nope. I have no lag in game at all....aside from certain raids that are buggy as hell.


   
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Default 02-12-2013, 02:19 | posts: 25,795 | Location: Hampshire UK

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Going with a 500watt PSU is a baaaaad idea.
no it's not, not at all. he could easily run a wow rig of a 400watt psu.
   
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Default 02-12-2013, 02:23 | posts: 25,795 | Location: Hampshire UK

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A 500watt of a quality brand might be adequate but most ppl say that. On the box of a GPU it says "Requires a 450watt to run". Most ppl get confused on that and forget everything else.

For the specisic example, a GPU needs 450watt PSU, the CPU will say "requires 120 watt" and so on and so forth.

Going with the absolute minimum is the worst idea ever and the #1 reason of most burnouts and faults.

If you take into account the full load of every part, OC and some fault building or electric company wiring and faults you can see that the safest bet is to have some extra wattage in stock.
you've just proved again that you have no clue about what you're talking about. look at my rig. It's running a i5 2500k @4.5ghz, 8gb ram, a heavily oced gtx 480 (which is still to date one of the most power hungry single gpu solutions out there), a sound card, ssd, 4 hdds and a wheel/peripherals. all this on a 650watt psu. Under heavy load (prime and other demanding benchmarks) it'll draw under 500w, if that. For gaming it's under 400w.

I'll say this again, if you don't know what you're talking about, stay quiet. this is other people's money and they need good advice not some half wit nonsense. OP, I'll edit my post in a minute with what I would buy for $350 to run WoW (no matter how much I don't see a WoW rig haha).

edit: creation, let me enlighten you, read through this. that is an oced gtx 660ti which will need more power than any gpu in op's budget and check the chart for other gpus. you're absolutely clueless. http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages..._review,7.html

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Default 02-12-2013, 02:30 | posts: 16,068 | Location: US East Coast

Bet I can beat the price...lol


   
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Default 02-12-2013, 02:39 | posts: 25,795 | Location: Hampshire UK

I've actually given up on looking for the parts, seeing as I'm not sure where the OP is getting them from etc but yeah, feel free to go for it. Am I right in guessing that WoW runs better on nvidia cards? or is that a thing of the past?
   
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Default 02-12-2013, 02:42 | posts: 16,068 | Location: US East Coast

Nope, still runs better on NVidia. On "high" my HD7870 struggled to keep 60fps at 1920x1080 whereas my GTX660 stays at 100+ and surprisingly my GTX560Ti could stay around 60fps on "Ultra"....


   
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Default 02-12-2013, 03:14 | posts: 12,877 | Location: USA

Wrong thread.
   
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Default 02-12-2013, 04:01 | posts: 1,428 | Location: Japan, Soka

CreationP,

I used watt meter to measure what wattage I could hit when running furmark and prime95 at the same time. Result was 380W.

With lighter specs, I doubt he hits 300W.

430W quality PSU would be more than enough.

Next time you write something, at least google, if you dont have tools to backup your words.
   
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Default 02-12-2013, 05:24 | posts: 5,128 | Location: FLA,USA

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1440x900 is pretty easy for current and last gen graphics cards....1920x1080 is a different story. He's not pulling that off on Ultra without being below 60fps
Which is why I said okay anything above 30 fps is very playable.

BTW all I was trying to say with my post is it don't take much to run WoW OP could probably run it with a FX 4100 and a 650ti. That is all my post was getting at.

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Default 02-12-2013, 06:54 | posts: 6,678 | Location: Portland, Oregon

Possibly answering my own question here.
The FX 4100, A8-3870K, and i3 2120 are very similar in performance. Don't think I'll be overclocking the CPU as those AMDs don't seem to benefit much from it sadly. The i3, however, I would.

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Default 02-12-2013, 07:56 | posts: 828

The i3 can't be overclocked, does this person play games other than wow ?
   
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Default 02-12-2013, 08:17 | posts: 6,678 | Location: Portland, Oregon

ah, fail... They probably play free games like League of Legends.
   
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Default 02-12-2013, 11:53 | posts: 25,795 | Location: Hampshire UK

@CreationP - what exactly is your psu model?
   
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Default 02-12-2013, 13:08 | posts: 209 | Location: Greece

@ eclap

You showed me a thread/ article that backs up my theory. Thanks. 660Ti needs a min of 450-500watt IF you do not OC. Also, you still trying to say I'm not right after you proved my theories wrong in more than 3 threads and still proved you wrong in all of them. You really have a problem with me eh? WHat I said in previous thread is:

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A 500watt of a quality brand might be adequate but...
I really don't give a rats ass of what PSU the OP will buy. I don't really care if he buys the absolute minimum whether it is 380-400 or 500watt. But when something out of the ordinary happens and yes, it will happen, and the PSU won't be good enough then he will be the one comming back crying that his PSU/GPU or whatever else is fried.

My PSU is a Tagan PSU that I own for 5 years now, I don't remember the model name and number and you need to read more carefully.

A very good gaming pc (Not OC) will require in average 380 watt in full load. On the other hand a hardcore gaming oc requires about 500watt. Are you brave enough to go with a 400/500 watt PSU or would you prefer to have at least 100-150 watt in stock for electricity provider malfunctions, storms etc etc. ?

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