Guru3D.com Forums

Go Back   Guru3D.com Forums > Hardware > Die-hard Overclocking & Case Modifications 
Die-hard Overclocking & Case Modifications  Want to overclock that processor, videocard or even mainboard ? Wanna tweak the best out of your piece of hardware or have the means to design a killer case ? Get in here and pimp that rig man.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
3770K De-lidded and lapped With Liquid Pro - Awesome results.
Old
  (#1)
Stu @ MSD
Member Guru
 
Videocard: 3x HD7970 @ 1260/1950
Processor: Intel i7 3770K @ 4.6ghz
Mainboard: Asus Maximumus Extreme-Z
Memory: 8GB Sammy @ 2400mhz
Soundcard: Onboard 7.1
PSU: Enermax Max Revo 1500w
Default 3770K De-lidded and lapped With Liquid Pro - Awesome results. - 02-01-2013, 23:04 | posts: 110 | Location: Blackpool. UK

Hi Guys,
Took the plunge and de-lidded my 3770K as even with my huge loop, 90c at 1.28v and 4.7ghz was stopping me testing any further and I really want some more clocks. Also, my core temps were very uneven which has always niggled me.

Plus - I just wanted to do it for the hell of it, so off we go...

Quick test beforehand using ten runs of IBT on normal yield the following results.

  • Idle Core 1 = 31c
  • Idle Core 2 = 26c
  • Idle Core 3 = 29c
  • Idle Core 4 = 23c

  • Max Core 1 = 76c
  • Max Core 2 = 88c
  • Max Core 3 = 83c
  • Max Core 4 = 79c




After the work was completed, I performed the same test, and yielded the following results.

  • Idle Core 1 = 27c (-4c)
  • Idle Core 2 = 24c (-2c)
  • Idle Core 3 = 26c (-3c)
  • Idle Core 4 = 22c (-1c)

  • Max Core 1 = 53c (-23c)
  • Max Core 2 = 56c (-32c)
  • Max Core 3 = 58c (-25c)
  • Max Core 4 = 54c (-25c)
An incredible max improvement of 32 Degrees C!

And importantly, the cores are now all within 5c of each other, instead of
12c as they were previous, which I expect is a result of the lapping.





Just to be sure it wasnt a fluke, I put on a quick double run on Max settings. results are almost identical.



Pleased?
Oh yes! Now for some more volts and clocks!

Pictures to follow. just uploading.
   
Reply With Quote
 
Old
  (#2)
Stu @ MSD
Member Guru
 
Videocard: 3x HD7970 @ 1260/1950
Processor: Intel i7 3770K @ 4.6ghz
Mainboard: Asus Maximumus Extreme-Z
Memory: 8GB Sammy @ 2400mhz
Soundcard: Onboard 7.1
PSU: Enermax Max Revo 1500w
Default 02-01-2013, 23:05 | posts: 110 | Location: Blackpool. UK

The bits n bobs...


She's under the knife...


No turning back now...




IHS was definately concave... that pleased me.






Pop her back in with some Liquid pro...




And that is pretty much that. All I can say is TAKE YOUR TIME.

Rush this and you will slip and wreck her... but take your time and its very simple to do.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#3)
SLI-756
Banned
 
Videocard: 760 SLI 4gb 1215/ 6800
Processor: Devil's Canyon i5 @4.8
Mainboard: gigabyte z97 G1 Sniper
Memory: 8gb dominator gt @2400
Soundcard: asus xonar dx
PSU: EVGA SuperNova 1200 P2
Default 02-01-2013, 23:24 | posts: 7,606 | Location: Sunny Scotland

The last pic with the liquid pro is very impressive no wonder your temps have plummeted, excellent thread, wow! good results man!
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#4)
scoter man1
Ancient Guru
 
scoter man1's Avatar
 
Videocard: Evga GTX 570/Korean 1440p
Processor: Intel Core i7 4790K
Mainboard: Asus Sabertooth Z97 Mark1
Memory: GSkill Trident X 2x4GB
Soundcard: Onboard/Superlux HD660
PSU: XIGMATEK 750w
Default 02-01-2013, 23:30 | posts: 4,291 | Location: MI, USA

Can't wait to hear how far you can get now.
   
Reply With Quote
 
Old
  (#5)
P90G0D
Newbie
 
Videocard: 7870 Hawk @ 1350c, 1600m
Processor: 3770K @ 4.8Ghz 1.402v
Mainboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6
Memory: G. Skill 8GB DDR3 2200
Soundcard:
PSU: AX1200
Default 02-02-2013, 04:48 | posts: 26

Just went with pro today and it truly is amazing.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#6)
Greyleroux
Member Guru
 
Greyleroux's Avatar
 
Videocard: Gtx660 Sli_U2713
Processor: 3570K@4.4_H80i
Mainboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4
Memory: 16G DDR3 @1600
Soundcard: SB ZxR_ATH-AD-500X
PSU: 850W
Default 02-02-2013, 06:18 | posts: 76 | Location: Japan

you just lost the warranty and the possibility to resell the CPU .but you already knew that
I attend to resell my 3570k later on so I will never attempt something like that ,,was tempted I must admit.
The gain in temps is just phenomenal !
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#7)
hallryu
Don Altobello
 
hallryu's Avatar
 
Videocard: 2x HD7970 - QNIX/U2711
Processor: 3770k delid@4.8GHz - H320
Mainboard: GA-Z77X-UP7 (F5)
Memory: Dominator GT 2134 2x4GB
Soundcard: Asus Xonar D2X + SP2500
PSU: BeQuiet! DP Pro 1200W
Default 02-02-2013, 09:02 | posts: 11,415 | Location: England

Nice thread. I lapped my IHS as well as the delid.

Looks like your CPU performs exactly like mine. 1.29v for 4.7GHz or thereabouts. Max temps for me were around 62C.

I didn't have time to get 4.8GHz stable, well not yet! .
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#8)
P90G0D
Newbie
 
Videocard: 7870 Hawk @ 1350c, 1600m
Processor: 3770K @ 4.8Ghz 1.402v
Mainboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6
Memory: G. Skill 8GB DDR3 2200
Soundcard:
PSU: AX1200
Default 02-02-2013, 09:33 | posts: 26

Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyleroux View Post
you just lost the warranty and the possibility to resell the CPU .but you already knew that
I attend to resell my 3570k later on so I will never attempt something like that ,,was tempted I must admit.
The gain in temps is just phenomenal !
Could always super glue the ihs back on

All joking aside i would have no issues buying a delidded 3770K/3570K aslong as the owner demonstrated it worked perfectly
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#9)
ballistix32
Newbie
 
Videocard: msi gtx 680 twin frozr 4
Processor: 3570k
Mainboard:
Memory:
Soundcard:
PSU: thermaltake 1200w
Default 02-04-2013, 01:53 | posts: 1

Hi Newbie here, just signed up on the forums to comment on this thread. I just de-lidded my 3570k last night. I also have my syringe of liquid pro and cant wait to try reassemble. I have a quad rad and a apogee xt.

I was wondering if OP had tried doing a direct die mount.

If I go direct mount to the die, do you think i should lap the xt? I believe it is manufactured to be slightly convexed for mounting to non-lapped core2duos.

Any help would be apprecited
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#10)
max883
Master Guru
 
max883's Avatar
 
Videocard: Asus 780Ti SLi
Processor: I7-4790K
Mainboard: Asus Maximus VI FORMULA
Memory: Corsair dom 16.GB 2.4GHz
Soundcard: Creative X-FI Recon3D
PSU: Corsair AX-1200i
Default 02-04-2013, 12:28 | posts: 172 | Location: Norway

My i7-2700K is runing at 5.Ghz 1.34v max temp in prime 95 is 58.c

Using XMPC water coling for cpu and gpu
   
Reply With Quote
 
Old
  (#11)
Stu @ MSD
Member Guru
 
Videocard: 3x HD7970 @ 1260/1950
Processor: Intel i7 3770K @ 4.6ghz
Mainboard: Asus Maximumus Extreme-Z
Memory: 8GB Sammy @ 2400mhz
Soundcard: Onboard 7.1
PSU: Enermax Max Revo 1500w
Default 02-04-2013, 16:43 | posts: 110 | Location: Blackpool. UK

Quote:
Originally Posted by ballistix32 View Post
I was wondering if OP had tried doing a direct die mount.
No - that was my next course of action if still unhappy, but its a bit more involved as it requires dissasembly of the ECU mounting framework.

I didnt bother re securing the IHS. After 48 hrs it should be welded in place anyway. And its not like it moves about.

After some tests and benching, my best overall settings with 100% stability are 45x103 for 4640mhz @ 1.27v with ram at 2200 with 1.55v.
I have also brought PLL voltage down to 1.7 for less heat.
So I have done some IBT tests set to max, with extreme ticked for ten runs using all the ram.

Results are very impressive. A max of 54C.



But perhaps even more impressive are the results of my same tests PASSIVE with no radiator cooling at all.
(All cooling fans switched off except the 2x silent case fans to keep the Vregs cool.)


Still a max of 67C. Well happy.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#12)
moab600
Ancient Guru
 
moab600's Avatar
 
Videocard: GTX 780 AMP 1267/7300MHZ
Processor: Core I7 4790K 4.6GHZ DC
Mainboard: Asus Z97 PRO 1204
Memory: 8GB DDRIII 1866MHZ
Soundcard: Asus Xonar STX II Z906
PSU: SeaSonic M12II 650W 85+Br
Default 02-04-2013, 20:08 | posts: 4,626 | Location: Israel

Quote:
Originally Posted by max883 View Post
My i7-2700K is runing at 5.Ghz 1.34v max temp in prime 95 is 58.c

Using XMPC water coling for cpu and gpu
I wonder how, my 2700K need 1.44v to run 100% stable on 4.8ghz
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#13)
Agent-A01
Ancient Guru
 
Agent-A01's Avatar
 
Videocard: GTX Titan H20 1472/7600
Processor: i7 5820K 4.7GHz H20
Mainboard: ASUS X99-A
Memory: Crucial 4x4GB 2666
Soundcard: Xonar Phoebus-PC360/HD598
PSU: SeaSonic Platinum-1000
Default 02-04-2013, 20:55 | posts: 6,883 | Location: USA

Quote:
Originally Posted by moab600 View Post
I wonder how, my 2700K need 1.44v to run 100% stable on 4.8ghz
i think thats a troll bot.. every post he made has been the same thing..

anyways i need 1.35 for 5ghz. you got a dud chip
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#14)
moab600
Ancient Guru
 
moab600's Avatar
 
Videocard: GTX 780 AMP 1267/7300MHZ
Processor: Core I7 4790K 4.6GHZ DC
Mainboard: Asus Z97 PRO 1204
Memory: 8GB DDRIII 1866MHZ
Soundcard: Asus Xonar STX II Z906
PSU: SeaSonic M12II 650W 85+Br
Default 02-04-2013, 22:23 | posts: 4,626 | Location: Israel

lol how awesome is time. well anyway it get's to 57C max so no worries.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#15)
Scerate
Maha Guru
 
Scerate's Avatar
 
Videocard: GTX 780Ti 1200/7000 1.1v
Processor: i7 3770k 4.5Ghz 1.2v
Mainboard: Asus Sabertooth Z77
Memory: 16GB Veng 1866 8-9-9-24
Soundcard: Soundblaster Zx
PSU: Corsair AX760i
Default 02-04-2013, 22:52 | posts: 984 | Location: Austria

will delid my cpu too after the guarantee is over, right now i'm pretty happy with mine maxing at about 75 C LinX i really hope i will see some upper 50 C too then
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#16)
Hukkel
Member Guru
 
Videocard: XFX HD7850 DD
Processor: i5-2500k
Mainboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme 4
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 2*4GB
Soundcard:
PSU: CM Silent pro M600
Default 02-05-2013, 12:44 | posts: 93

@OP; well tbh your temps were crazy high from the beginning tbh. That high with liquid cooling with only 1.28v. Even though 4.7 @ 1.28 isn't that high at all.

I wonder what did the actual thing? The lapping? The delidding? Maybe the reseat?

Good work though. If I delid it I will put my liquid cooler on the bare die itself. But first will have to see how the temps will be when using it stock and OC-ing it with liquid cooling.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#17)
Ti3Kob
Master Guru
 
Ti3Kob's Avatar
 
Videocard: GTX680 SLI@1398/7800 H2O
Processor: i7 2700K @ 5.26Ghz HT H2O
Mainboard: ASUS Maximus V GENE
Memory: 16GB G-Skill @2.2GHz CAS9
Soundcard: Asus Xonar crap
PSU: Corsair AX860
Default 02-05-2013, 17:52 | posts: 638 | Location: France

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hukkel View Post
@OP; well tbh your temps were crazy high from the beginning tbh. That high with liquid cooling with only 1.28v. Even though 4.7 @ 1.28 isn't that high at all.

I wonder what did the actual thing? The lapping? The delidding? Maybe the reseat?

Good work though. If I delid it I will put my liquid cooler on the bare die itself. But first will have to see how the temps will be when using it stock and OC-ing it with liquid cooling.
The delidding did most of it, and the lapping got a couple degrees more.

If you're talking about your 2500k, DON'T TRY to delid it. It's not using TIM between the actual CPU and the IHS unlike Ivy Bridge (the core is soldered to the IHS), and you would most likely kill the chip just trying to delid it.
Anyway Sandy Bridge CPUs aren't touched by this temp problem. If it runs hot you just need more cooling :p

@moab600 Like Agent-A01, my 2700K needs 1.35V for 5GHz too, and 1.4V for 5.26GHz, though 5.3 needs 1.45, and 5.4 needs 1.55. It did need more than that on my previous motherboard (a Gigabyte). Btw max883 does look like a troll indeed

Last edited by Ti3Kob; 02-05-2013 at 17:58.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#18)
hallryu
Don Altobello
 
hallryu's Avatar
 
Videocard: 2x HD7970 - QNIX/U2711
Processor: 3770k delid@4.8GHz - H320
Mainboard: GA-Z77X-UP7 (F5)
Memory: Dominator GT 2134 2x4GB
Soundcard: Asus Xonar D2X + SP2500
PSU: BeQuiet! DP Pro 1200W
Default 02-05-2013, 17:57 | posts: 11,415 | Location: England

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hukkel View Post
@OP; well tbh your temps were crazy high from the beginning tbh. That high with liquid cooling with only 1.28v. Even though 4.7 @ 1.28 isn't that high at all.

I wonder what did the actual thing? The lapping? The delidding? Maybe the reseat?

Good work though. If I delid it I will put my liquid cooler on the bare die itself. But first will have to see how the temps will be when using it stock and OC-ing it with liquid cooling.
I hope you get good results, delidding your CPU ages you! The problem is not necessarily the TIM it could be the actual gap between the IHS and the die, so there becomes a point that no matter how good the cooling there is just simply nothing that can be done to lower the temps.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#19)
Hukkel
Member Guru
 
Videocard: XFX HD7850 DD
Processor: i5-2500k
Mainboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme 4
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 2*4GB
Soundcard:
PSU: CM Silent pro M600
Default 02-05-2013, 19:20 | posts: 93

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ti3Kob View Post
The delidding did most of it, and the lapping got a couple degrees more.

If you're talking about your 2500k, DON'T TRY to delid it. It's not using TIM between the actual CPU and the IHS unlike Ivy Bridge (the core is soldered to the IHS), and you would most likely kill the chip just trying to delid it.
Anyway Sandy Bridge CPUs aren't touched by this temp problem. If it runs hot you just need more cooling :p

@moab600 Like Agent-A01, my 2700K needs 1.35V for 5GHz too, and 1.4V for 5.26GHz, though 5.3 needs 1.45, and 5.4 needs 1.55. It did need more than that on my previous motherboard (a Gigabyte). Btw max883 does look like a troll indeed
Nah not my 2500k. My 3770k in my current project build.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#20)
iancook221188
Maha Guru
 
Videocard: GTX 670 SLI / GTX 460 SLI
Processor: 2600k4.5 / i7 970 4.4 WC
Mainboard: X68 UD4 / X58A UD5
Memory: 16GB / 24GB
Soundcard:
PSU: TX850 / AX850
Default 02-05-2013, 20:14 | posts: 1,480 | Location: uk

great result in this thread but i don't think my bro would let me do this to his 3770k
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#21)
moab600
Ancient Guru
 
moab600's Avatar
 
Videocard: GTX 780 AMP 1267/7300MHZ
Processor: Core I7 4790K 4.6GHZ DC
Mainboard: Asus Z97 PRO 1204
Memory: 8GB DDRIII 1866MHZ
Soundcard: Asus Xonar STX II Z906
PSU: SeaSonic M12II 650W 85+Br
Default 02-05-2013, 22:24 | posts: 4,626 | Location: Israel

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ti3Kob View Post
The delidding did most of it, and the lapping got a couple degrees more.

If you're talking about your 2500k, DON'T TRY to delid it. It's not using TIM between the actual CPU and the IHS unlike Ivy Bridge (the core is soldered to the IHS), and you would most likely kill the chip just trying to delid it.
Anyway Sandy Bridge CPUs aren't touched by this temp problem. If it runs hot you just need more cooling :p

@moab600 Like Agent-A01, my 2700K needs 1.35V for 5GHz too, and 1.4V for 5.26GHz, though 5.3 needs 1.45, and 5.4 needs 1.55. It did need more than that on my previous motherboard (a Gigabyte). Btw max883 does look like a troll indeed
Hmm could be my motherboard then, well nonetheless still very good. 2700K 2600K any new IVY are strong without any oc.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#22)
hallryu
Don Altobello
 
hallryu's Avatar
 
Videocard: 2x HD7970 - QNIX/U2711
Processor: 3770k delid@4.8GHz - H320
Mainboard: GA-Z77X-UP7 (F5)
Memory: Dominator GT 2134 2x4GB
Soundcard: Asus Xonar D2X + SP2500
PSU: BeQuiet! DP Pro 1200W
Default 02-05-2013, 22:39 | posts: 11,415 | Location: England

Nice results OP. Here is a comparison with my CPU for you:

   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#23)
Hukkel
Member Guru
 
Videocard: XFX HD7850 DD
Processor: i5-2500k
Mainboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme 4
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 2*4GB
Soundcard:
PSU: CM Silent pro M600
Default 02-05-2013, 23:04 | posts: 93

Man I hope my cpu will clock as good as yours. That is a nice low voltage. My friend couldn't get his stable at 4.8 and he was already at 1.45v.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#24)
hallryu
Don Altobello
 
hallryu's Avatar
 
Videocard: 2x HD7970 - QNIX/U2711
Processor: 3770k delid@4.8GHz - H320
Mainboard: GA-Z77X-UP7 (F5)
Memory: Dominator GT 2134 2x4GB
Soundcard: Asus Xonar D2X + SP2500
PSU: BeQuiet! DP Pro 1200W
Default 02-05-2013, 23:50 | posts: 11,415 | Location: England

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hukkel View Post
Man I hope my cpu will clock as good as yours. That is a nice low voltage. My friend couldn't get his stable at 4.8 and he was already at 1.45v.
Getting to 4.7GHz was a breeze. I've only had a short play with higher clocks and the voltage jump was quite big. I have to pick that up again at about 1.35v. I was nearly stable for 4.8GHz. I suspect 4.9 and 5 are going to be around 1.45v ish!
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#25)
stavitgr
Newbie
 
stavitgr's Avatar
 
Videocard: AMD Radeon 7990 @1100Mhz
Processor: i7-3770k Delidded @5.1Ghz
Mainboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP7
Memory: 2x 4GB Corsair DP 2400MHz
Soundcard: Onboard
PSU: Corsair AX850 Gold
Default 02-06-2013, 21:59 | posts: 18 | Location: Athens, Greece

Here's my 3770k temps (for comparison).. The cpu is delidded and I used XSPC K2 for the chip and Indigo Xtreme 1155 between IHS and XSPC Raystorm block.

Before that, highest core temps under prime95 @ 4.6GHz HT on were 78-80 and after the procedure they're 48-51 or lower.. Huge improvement

Also my cpu doesnt require that much voltage considering it does 4.6 HT on @ 1.17 and 4.8 HT on @ 1.27 (12h prime stable) so i'm pretty pleased with the result.


Last edited by stavitgr; 02-06-2013 at 22:08.
   
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBulletin Skin developed by: vBStyles.com
Copyright (c) 1995-2014, All Rights Reserved. The Guru of 3D, the Hardware Guru, and 3D Guru are trademarks owned by Hilbert Hagedoorn.