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Default Have you had a SSD die on you yet ? - 01-31-2013, 15:47 | posts: 22,528 | Location: Netherlands

Well today my 3RD SSD went dead for me.

1st was a Corsair P128
2nd was a OCZ Vertex 2
3rd my Crucial M4

They all died on different mobo's. (x48/x58/z68) (witht he SSD tweaks , even pagefile on another drive.)

I never had any problem RMA-ing, so doubt this time i will, but im quite pissed to say the least.

It starts with hard lockups where i have to remove the sata cable from the drive, then when i put it back in it works again. but its already a sign of the drive dying. funny enough the crystal info program showed the drives at 100% each time. so the program is useless aswell imo.
somewhat later , the drive will be stuck at sata detection (IDE/AHCI does not matter).

Im starting to think that the SSD technology is very flawed, since this is the 3rd time, and ive much have purchased about 20 mechanical drives in my life, and there was only failing one!!

So i was just wondering has anyone ever experienced SSD drive failing ?
   
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Default 01-31-2013, 15:57 | posts: 5,672 | Location: Urban`Jungle

Well to be honest all those disks are a bit so so.

If you had a lets say Samsung 830 or Intel 33x/ 520 in there then I might be concerned as well.
   
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Default 01-31-2013, 16:00 | posts: 280 | Location: Essex

Dodgy PSU sending a spike maybe.
   
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Default 01-31-2013, 16:02 | posts: 22,528 | Location: Netherlands

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Well to be honest all those disks are a bit so so.

If you had a lets say Samsung 830 or Intel 33x/ 520 in there then I might be concerned as well.
Corsair P128 http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages...review,12.html


OCZ vertex 2 http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages...review,13.html


Crucial M4 http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages...review,16.html


Doesnt show so / so at all


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Dodgy PSU sending a spike maybe.
could this happen on 3 different PSU's ?
   
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Default 01-31-2013, 16:05 | posts: 5,672 | Location: Urban`Jungle

Yes, but by todays standards they are a bit lower quality.
   
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Default 01-31-2013, 16:06 | posts: 22,528 | Location: Netherlands

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Yes, but by todays standards they are a bit lower quality.
That doesnt mean they should die does it ? especially for that kind of money.
   
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Default 01-31-2013, 16:06 | posts: 5,815 | Location: Tacoma, Washington

I haven't had on die yet out of the 2x 180 Corsair Force 3's and 2x 240 Corsair Force GT's that I own.
   
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Default 01-31-2013, 16:10 | posts: 5,672 | Location: Urban`Jungle

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That doesnt mean they should die does it ? especially for that kind of money.
That's true but back then all SSD were quite expensive, maybe you just happened to have bad luck with them?

Or probably dodgy firmwares, i know M4 had a lot of firmware issues, same goes for Vertex2.
   
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Default 01-31-2013, 16:49 | posts: 4,825 | Location: Spain

sorry to hear ,white
3 different ssds, three different mobos, no coincidence here
at least, you got RMA option, you'd be really pissed off if they failed after warranty....
   
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Default 01-31-2013, 20:36 | posts: 2,002 | Location: far,far from home

In the first place , i am really sorry for you.
Now,dying SSD is nothing new and it is a fact.Flash memory has its own flaws.
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funny enough the crystal info program showed the drives at 100% each time. so the program is useless aswell imo.
Well,Crystal info uses SMART,and smart is making a prediction based on some numbers and tresholds,and it is failing at best .
SSD are pretty new tech so SMART is rather clueless,or manufacturers are putting higher tresholds ,so SMART will not trigger any warning.
So maybe we are not having the whole picture here.
Just for the kicks,look for Scott Moulton on myharddrivedied or Youtube speaking on SSDs tech.i warn you,some info will change your mind about SSDs.
   
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Default 01-31-2013, 20:45 | posts: 58

I have two, One old Intel SATA2 that is my OS drive, never failed me and i have a newer Kingston 240gb that i use as a Game drive for Steam..
   
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Default 01-31-2013, 20:48 | posts: 4,472 | Location: Washington DC

My first SSD was a cheap Microcenter brand drive (rebranded ADATA) and about 2 months into using it, the BIOS just refused to recognize it.

My new Intel drive has worked flawlessly
   
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Default 01-31-2013, 23:15 | posts: 1,824

Yes, a MC also (ADATA S599 64GB) about wo weeks ago. The other three are OK, but I replaced them all with Samsung 830s ($60 each for the upgrade kit).
   
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Default 02-01-2013, 00:33 | posts: 1,396 | Location: uk

2 corsair x32 died within a month of each other i did fold on them for 6 months so that wouldn't of help they did not even have trim or garbage collection
   
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Default 02-01-2013, 01:46 | posts: 12,047 | Location: USA

Nope. I have a first gen Corsair Force ssd that is still working.
   
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Default 02-01-2013, 11:12 | posts: 38 | Location: Bonny Scotland

i'd definitely be looking at my power supply.............

i have 3 SSD's all Crucial M4

Back from when they cost a few bob a 64GB,then a 128gb and lately a 256gb i'm running Win8 Pro on

they have all been updated with the latest firmware and i have not had ANY issues with Crucial SSD's
   
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Default 02-01-2013, 12:18 | posts: 956 | Location: Austria

my oldest SSD is in my notebook which is a OCZ Vertex 2 60GB i carried it over from my old X58 rig and still works very well, 100% Health according to CrystalDiskInfo with 5415 hours ontime, great purchase and it's about 2 years old i think.
   
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Default 02-01-2013, 17:30 | posts: 6,449 | Location: Chilling

I just had my Crucial M4 64GB die on me after around 7,000 hours, original revision and latest firmware.

Thank god Crucial has the best customer service I have ever dealt with and made the RMA painless.
   
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Default 02-01-2013, 20:06 | posts: 163 | Location: PT

I have a 128gb M4 running 24/7 since 2011 (may) with win8 pro (upgraded from win7 a few months ago) still running flawlessly

The only measure ive taken was to turn off pagefile ( having 12Gb RAM and all ) and ofc, (duh) not downloading using torrent clients to the SSD.

Also turned off hibernation file but, for drive space purposes only (12gb!), but it doesnt really impact desktop PC SSDs life that much, not to mention the pc was always on.

Cant really tell what happened to your SSDs, but from my point of view, the SSDs dying so soon isnt normal. Something must be eating the flash memory life
   
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Default 02-01-2013, 20:36 | posts: 6,449 | Location: Chilling

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I have a 128gb M4 running 24/7 since 2011 (may) with win8 pro (upgraded from win7 a few months ago) still running flawlessly

The only measure ive taken was to turn off pagefile ( having 12Gb RAM and all ) and ofc, (duh) not downloading using torrent clients to the SSD.

Also turned off hibernation file but, for drive space purposes only (12gb!), but it doesnt really impact desktop PC SSDs life that much, not to mention the pc was always on.

Cant really tell what happened to your SSDs, but from my point of view, the SSDs dying so soon isnt normal. Something must be eating the flash memory life
Actually, Crucial must be experiencing some issues with first revisions M4 (at least 64GB's). When I was calling tech support, they started asking me a bunch of questions, but the moment I mentioned mine was Firmware 0001 revision and that it wasn't appearing in BIOS after leaving it on (unconnected) for 24 hours, they just told me to contact customer support and RMA it and didn't bother to ask me to do anything else off their checklist.

I don't want to start a rumor here or anything though.
   
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Default 02-01-2013, 22:18 | posts: 163 | Location: PT

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Actually, Crucial must be experiencing some issues with first revisions M4 (at least 64GB's). When I was calling tech support, they started asking me a bunch of questions, but the moment I mentioned mine was Firmware 0001 revision and that it wasn't appearing in BIOS after leaving it on (unconnected) for 24 hours, they just told me to contact customer support and RMA it and didn't bother to ask me to do anything else off their checklist.

I don't want to start a rumor here or anything though.
True, happened in pretty much all M4's, the first firmwares had a 5200 Hour Bug, after 5200hs the SSD would disapear from bios, and giving, ofc, windows a bsod error.
But showing up again after a reboot, after that, would crash again after 30/40 mins max.

Mine was one of them, happened to me 2days right after the news hitted the web. (That was january 2012)
But i updated the firmware after the crash and the SSD got up and running again like always, no data lost.

This wasnt related to flash memory life span, just a bug, if your SSD is revision 001 you probably had the same issue.
   
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Default 02-01-2013, 23:05 | posts: 6,449 | Location: Chilling

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True, happened in pretty much all M4's, the first firmwares had a 5200 Hour Bug, after 5200hs the SSD would disapear from bios, and giving, ofc, windows a bsod error.
But showing up again after a reboot, after that, would crash again after 30/40 mins max.

Mine was one of them, happened to me 2days right after the news hitted the web. (That was january 2012)
But i updated the firmware after the crash and the SSD got up and running again like always, no data lost.

This wasnt related to flash memory life span, just a bug, if your SSD is revision 001 you probably had the same issue.
It was on the latest firmware, 040H, when it died. The firmware 0001 is also the revision listed on the drive itself (the firmware it shipped with).
   
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Default 02-02-2013, 07:25 | posts: 1,590 | Location: Israel - Haifa

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That's true but back then all SSD were quite expensive, maybe you just happened to have bad luck with them?

Or probably dodgy firmwares, i know M4 had a lot of firmware issues, same goes for Vertex2.
still rocking with old agility 3 60 gb ssd updating firmwares when they out
   
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Default 02-02-2013, 07:33 | posts: 2,002 | Location: far,far from home

if you have patience,you will be rewarded with intricate work of SSD internals


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLoYduckmuo

around minute 40 fun starts
   
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Default 02-02-2013, 08:02 | posts: 708

All 4 of my 80GB Intel x25-m G2's have been running for 3 years 3 months no problems.

~4.6 TB of data written to each of them, "Media Wearout Indicator: 98" on each.

6 months ago my friend bought a brand new 512 GB OCZ Vertex 4, we installed Windows 7 and transferred all of his personal data from his 1 TB HDD.

We then ran AS SSD benchmark to make sure the drive was working correctly and as the speeds were up to spec we formatted his 1 TB HDD so he could use it for storage.

1 hour later he got a BSOD and the SSD is dead - wont detect in BIOS...

The Intel SATA controller on the Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe was set to AHCI mode with hot swap enabled - checked the SATA and power cables - still clipped in properly.

No explanation as to why it died - I think some are just poorly manufactured.

Claimed it on warranty but my friend lost all of his personal data.

Learned a valuable lesson that day - always keep a backup of personal data.
   
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