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AMD reveals Radeon HD 8000 series for Desktop PCs
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Default AMD reveals Radeon HD 8000 series for Desktop PCs - 01-08-2013, 04:46 | posts: 2,362 | Location: 127.0.0.1



See entire lineup here: http://www.amd.com/us/products/deskt...desktop.aspx#2

Looks like 8350/8400 are renamed 6000 series GPUs.

Everything else is on PCI-e 3.0 and DX 11.1.

Full spec sheets for 8950 and 8970:
http://www.amd.com/us/Documents/AMD_...re_Summary.pdf

http://www.amd.com/us/Documents/AMD_...re_Summary.pdf
   
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Default 01-08-2013, 05:29 | posts: 1,294

Cool. Thanks. That leaves little room for speculation.
   
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Default 01-08-2013, 06:23 | posts: 1,599 | Location: Unknown

Nothing to see here. Only rebrands. Another reason never to buy pre-built PCs.
   
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Default 01-08-2013, 06:24 | posts: 776

This is for OEM PCs only right?
   
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Default 01-08-2013, 06:31 | posts: 2,362 | Location: 127.0.0.1

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This is for OEM PCs only right?
That's what they said for 6770/6750 initially.. OEM only. (Rebrands of 5770/5750)

Then it became retail.
   
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Default 02-05-2013, 10:51 | posts: 9,071 | Location: Sweden

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTI5Mjk

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While AMD has yet to officially introduce their Radeon HD 8000 series, published today was the initial open-source Linux graphics driver support for handling the Radeon HD 8800 "Oland" graphics cards.
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In terms of today's Oland work, there was a simple commit to Mesa to "add support for Oland chips" inside the RadeonSI driver. This ended up being a fairly trivial commit for introducing the Oland GPU chip support, but again the RadeonSI driver is far from being feature-complete.

Another commit added in the new Oland PCI IDs: 0x6600, 0x6601, 0x6602, 0x6603, 0x6606, 0x6607, 0x6610, 0x6611, 0x6613, 0x6620, 0x6621, 0x6623, and 0x6631.

There was also a fairly trivial commit to the xf86-video-ati DDX for introducing Oland GPU support, which again is not really any different compared to the Southern Islands support. Likewise, a commit went into Mesa's DRM library (libdrm) too.

At the time of publishing, the Radeon DRM kernel driver support for Oland hasn't been seen. This support will be targeted for the Linux 3.9 kernel merge window, which is a bit unfortunate since Ubuntu 13.04 and other Q2 distributions are generally sticking to Linux 3.8 or prior. Unless these vendors end up back-porting the initial HD 8000 Linux series support to the older kernel (at least the Mesa changes are candidates for next month's release of Mesa 9.1), most users will have to wait until H2'2013 for reliable HD 8000 series open-source support. Fortunately, there should be at least good launch-day coverage in the Catalyst Linux driver.
   
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Default 02-05-2013, 10:58 | posts: 1,652 | Location: Luleå, Sweden

The 8850 should be what I'm looking for.
   
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Default 02-05-2013, 11:22 | posts: 483 | Location: chicago area

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The 8850 should be what I'm looking for.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...CE&PageSize=20

here you go. why wait? get one today!
   
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Default 02-05-2013, 12:25 | posts: 5,284 | Location: PA, USA

This is for OEM parts, they are known to be slower than the desktop consumer varients anyway. Still no concrete info but thanks!
   
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Default 02-05-2013, 13:01 | posts: 5,652 | Location: Urban`Jungle

8970 still with 32ROPS? that doesnt sound so next-gen.. 48 would be better
   
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Default 02-05-2013, 13:28 | posts: 104 | Location: Pakistan

Great post. Although OEM varients are slower than the desktop gaming batch but this narrows down our speculations for the 8xxx series.

BTW any idea about the prices??
   
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I hope Nvidia will replicate soon :3
   
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Default 02-05-2013, 17:15 | posts: 5,284 | Location: PA, USA

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8970 still with 32ROPS? that doesnt sound so next-gen.. 48 would be better
That is because these are OEM parts. The real deal isn't going to be the same.

They already announced that OEM parts are going to be practically rebranded HD 7 series. So these are actually going to be faster than the HD 7 OEM's.

OEM parts are always weaker in general compared to the full blown consumer end purchase as an add-in card.

So this isn't the "Actual" HD 8970 and 8950 etc. It's the OEM varient. It even says "OEM" in parenthesis.

Plus I wouldn't expect anything too much more powerful. It seems it will be 15-30% at most faster through hardware specs. GCN2 is going to be where the speed increase and performance comes from. Their GCN drivers as of late are very very well optimized, and they are STILL learning. GCN 2 is said to take this a step further. Which means even more FPS and stability from GCN arch, with a more efficient card.

AMD is really going the software route now, and it's showing.

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Default 02-05-2013, 17:42 | posts: 2,542 | Location: Look out!

Hm, no mention of OpenGL 4.3 support.
   
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Default 02-05-2013, 22:33 | posts: 19,041 | Location: Toronto, Canada

Hurray more rebranding. To be honest, desktop PC tech seems to have slowed down faster than expected (sounds funny I know), I think there's a lot more attention on the mobile space since for the general public, we have the computational power we need to solve everyday things.

However, that's not to say we can't harness more computational power, but the general public rather focus on small devices hoping to see desktop-like computational power on them instead.

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Default 02-05-2013, 22:36 | posts: 15,598 | Location: US East Coast

This "news" isn't anything new. We knew about this several weeks ago....

That list is OEM cards....not retail.

The heading for the page even says such

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Desktop OEM PCs


   
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Default 02-06-2013, 02:15 | posts: 2,230 | Location: Hong Kong

Learn something new everyday. So OEM parts are actually inferior for AMD? Never knew about it but then, i never buy OEM parts (other than windows).


   
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Default 02-06-2013, 02:56 | posts: 5,284 | Location: PA, USA

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This "news" isn't anything new. We knew about this several weeks ago....

That list is OEM cards....not retail.

The heading for the page even says such
I think people are just looking for more gunpowder to shoot at AMD with, and missed the whole "OEM" thing.
   
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Default 02-06-2013, 16:48 | posts: 15,598 | Location: US East Coast

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Learn something new everyday. So OEM parts are actually inferior for AMD? Never knew about it but then, i never buy OEM parts (other than windows).
It's no different from what NVidia does....


   
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Default 03-23-2013, 14:32 | posts: 160 | Location: Ancient Greece - Acropolis

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This is for OEM PCs only right?
Yes. these are only OEM Re-Brands. NVIDIA is well known for Re-Brands while ATI back in the day didn't do such as thing all that much.

The Desktop versions are said to be Performance Monsters and will greatly differ versus the existing HD 7900 series.
   
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Default 03-23-2013, 15:09 | posts: 495

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Yes. these are only OEM Re-Brands. NVIDIA is well known for Re-Brands while ATI back in the day didn't do such as thing all that much.

The Desktop versions are said to be Performance Monsters and will greatly differ versus the existing HD 7900 series.
trolling out loud mate.? what performance monsters.? it's a refresh not a new generation..it's GCN2 and now we have GCN..

difference in real world performance will be minimal from 5% up to 25%
   
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Default 03-23-2013, 15:27 | posts: 2,897 | Location: Lebanon

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trolling out loud mate.? what performance monsters.? it's a refresh not a new generation..it's GCN2 and now we have GCN..

difference in real world performance will be minimal from 5% up to 25%
Where did you get those numbers from?
   
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made up in his head?
   
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made up in his head?
Well, I'll be waiting for a URL or chat record anyways...
   
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Lightbulb 03-23-2013, 16:03 | posts: 495

have you ever seen ati/nvidia huge differences between a refresh.? on the last years i don't..

if you expect hd8000 will be 50-100% faster than hd7000 i will not argue people, it's your run
   
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