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Guru3D PC Buyers Guide Winter 2012
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Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Default Guru3D PC Buyers Guide Winter 2012 - 12-10-2012, 09:01 | posts: 21,376 | Location: Guru3D testlab

Guru3D offers you their bi-annual PC Buyers Guide, this is the 2012 Winter slash Christmas edition. This article brings you a set of recommendations of products we feel are great components to build y...

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Default 12-10-2012, 09:12 | posts: 3,650 | Location: UK

Nice guide. I can't seem to find anything about suggested monitors in there. I will look again as I have just woken up
   
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Default 12-10-2012, 09:14 | posts: 21,376 | Location: Guru3D testlab

The guide is just the overall PC build, no mouse, keyboards and monitors.


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Default 12-10-2012, 09:16 | posts: 3,650 | Location: UK

Ok. Cheers Don. Thought I read monitors too! *drinks more coffee fast*

   
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Default 12-10-2012, 09:18 | posts: 21,376 | Location: Guru3D testlab

LOL quote from first paragraph in article: "Monitor, keyboard, mouse and speakers are not included. We do this for brevity's sake, as the monitor alone would require its own guide, especially if I were to cover LCD monitors."


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Default 12-10-2012, 09:20 | posts: 3,650 | Location: UK

DOHH!

Can we have a monitor guide then? lol

Soooo want an expert opinion and round-up of latest and greatest monitors for gaming. Will mooch around The HTPC, HDTV & High Definition section instead!
   
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Default 12-10-2012, 10:08 | posts: 6,878 | Location: Dubai, UAE / London, UK

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DOHH!

Can we have a monitor guide then? lol

Soooo want an expert opinion and round-up of latest and greatest monitors for gaming. Will mooch around The HTPC, HDTV & High Definition section instead!
This. Would love in depth reviews regarding monitors/tv's ranging from 24-32'' .
   
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Default 12-10-2012, 10:55 | posts: 546

7850HD low-range???
Then what category am i into?
Lol, with 6850, i am may be in no-range category.
And, in low range i think fx6300 would be better option than i3-3220.
Nice guide though.

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Default 12-10-2012, 12:44 | posts: 7,439 | Location: Canada, Quebec

I would love monitors guide as well.
   
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Default 12-10-2012, 14:53 | posts: 533 | Location: USA

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7850HD low-range???
Then what category am i into?
Lol, with 6850, i am may be in no-range category.
And, in low range i think fx6300 would be better option than i3-3220.
Nice review though.

My "lan rig" (which usually sits under my desk opposite my main rig but I digress) has a ECS mobo ($50.00 ), Intel G540 (2.5Ghz no HT, also $50.00), 2x2Gb of the cheapest DDR3 ram kit (18.99 at time of purchase) on newegg and a 6870 and it still does better in games than most people here would even be willing to admit to

Even in RTS games it has managed to impress me quite a bit.

Since most games still support DX9 our "old" cards are more than overkill if you aren't worried about running with the latest 32xSLIQXSGAA and post processing "injectors", etc, etc.

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Default 12-10-2012, 15:48 | posts: 39

I see the OCZ Vertex 4 is not recommended. Is it because of the memory controller, and is the Samsung 840 pro 128gb really better than the Vertex 4?(I'm planing to buy a SSD and was going to go for Vertex 4)
   
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Default 12-10-2012, 16:03 | posts: 533 | Location: USA

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I see the OCZ Vertex 4 is not recommended. Is it because of the memory controller, and is the Samsung 840 pro 128gb really better than the Vertex 4?(I'm planing to buy a SSD and was going to go for Vertex 4)
I (and I think most people here) would tell you to go Samsung over OCZ any day of the week. Even if OCZ made a faster drive I think the reputation Samsung has built vs OCZ speaks for itself.
   
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Default 12-10-2012, 16:25 | posts: 546

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My "lan rig" (which usually sits under my desk opposite my main rig but I digress) has a ECS mobo ($50.00 ), Intel G540 (2.5Ghz no HT, also $50.00), 2x2Gb of the cheapest DDR3 ram kit (18.99 at time of purchase) on newegg and a 6870 and it still does better in games than most people here would even be willing to admit to

Even in RTS games it has managed to impress me quite a bit.

Since most games still support DX9 our "old" cards are more than overkill if you aren't worried about running with the latest 32xSLIQXSGAA and post processing "injectors", etc, etc.
yeah.I agree.
But the funny thing is, in game, your lan-rig is powerful than my/our main-and-only pc.
Strange.
   
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Default 12-10-2012, 16:35 | posts: 2,021

I really think the guide should mention the something like the A10-5800k for budget gaming (like really budget). You can do with the integrated graphics on that one and it overclocks really nicely. Not to say that the i3 3220 is a bad choice, but still I think the AMD deserves to be mentioned
Performance wise they are pretty much in the same league and it's cheaper (plus you don't need a dedicated GPU).

Good guide, a monitor guide would be interesting I agree.

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Default 12-10-2012, 16:57 | posts: 3,402 | Location: Kansas

You'll note that I did not recommend any of the new SSD's, for Samsung I recommended the 830's. Reliability of SSD's has been... disappointing. So many firmware problems and drive failures, so it's really best to let the new drives have some time on the market to see if they're going to be worth buying and any bugs get resolved with firmware updates. Even then well... Crucial's latest firmware update failed to work on my 256 GB Crucial M4. If I had to choose I'd definitely take the Samsung 840 Pro over the Vertex 4, both for performance and past reliability.

Monitors are tricky to make a guide to because different people want different things from their monitors and what one person can see another cannot, which can make such a guide rather subjective.

The 7850 is a fantastic deal and I'm glad I could put it in my budget gaming PC guide, you can find these for as low as 160 USD. I really wish Intel would make a K series for the i3 series, something for the overclockers on a budget. Overall though the price of the low end gaming PC even with a 3570K and 7850 would run you only about 800 USD, that's not a lot. There was a time when I set my guides by budget and the budget gaming PC was 1000 USD


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Default 12-10-2012, 17:05 | posts: 3,402 | Location: Kansas

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I really think the guide should mention the something like the A10-5800k for budget gaming (like really budget). You can do with the integrated graphics on that one and it overclocks really nicely. Not to say that the i3 3220 is a bad choice, but still I think the AMD deserves to be mentioned
Performance wise they are pretty much in the same league and it's cheaper (plus you don't need a dedicated GPU).
If you're using integrated graphics, you're not building a gaming machine. Integrated graphics are fine for some light, casual gaming; nothing more. At least not right yet. I expect this will change with future generations. I really wish I could could have recommended an AMD processor, the new Piledriver is a definite improvement over their Bulldozer fiasco. Head to head they do very well with Intel's processors (especially for multithreaded tasks) for the money... except for gaming. That poor single core performance means in any game not GPU limited they get stomped by Intel processors. And a gaming PC guide was what I was putting together.


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Default 12-10-2012, 17:08 | posts: 13,599 | Location: USA

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I would love monitors guide as well.
I'm gonna have to second this.
   
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Default 12-10-2012, 17:09 | posts: 1,347 | Location: Portugal

Nice guide boss.
   
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Default 12-10-2012, 17:24 | posts: 85 | Location: Upstate NY

This guide always seems so misguided... The mid end and high end PC's are pretty well thought out hardware wise, but the low end PC's are never smart buys at all.

It's perfectly possible to put a low end gaming PC together, even for a target of 1080p, that won't run you more than 300-400$.

Why would you recommend a core i3 for a low end build?
The Phenom II, while admittedly outdated, is 94.99$ on Newegg right now with free shipping. It's an ACTUAL 4 core CPU which can easily be overclocked into the 4ghz range, and for a budget PC I can't understand why you would ever recommend anything else. It will absolutely stay even with the Ivy bridge dual cores in modern games, unless you're doing artificial benchmarking at 640x480, which nobody is doing.

And the 7850 for a low end GPU? really? How about a 6850 for less than 140$, or even a 6770 for less than 100$

Granted those are LOWER END but thats the point of a budget gaming PC isn't it?

Even if you buy a 955BE and a 6770, you're already at about 200$. That's a good chunk of money for a low end budget PC build.

And an SSD? There is no way that an SSD should be included in a budget PC build, for gaming or otherwise. While they're amazing performance wise, they are extremely expensive and offer practically no storage space. HDD's are the only viable option on a low budget. A 128GB SSD gives you enough room for an OS, a couple programs, and maybe 3 or 4 games before you've maxed it out.

Why not spend half the money on a 500GB HDD and have enough room for plenty of games and all the programs you'll ever need?

The h60 recommendation seemed a little weird too... what about all the fantastically performing budget air coolers that are cheaper? The hyper 212+ is half the price(or less, I got mine for 15$ when it was on sale on newegg) and still gives a ton of performance. My 1055t is at 3.9ghz on a 212+ and barely goes over 50c.

I chaffed a little at the gtx 680 recommendation too... has there ever been a card that was worse in the price/performance category? You can get a 670 for over 100$ less, some of them are even going for 350$ on newegg, and it's only a couple percentage points of performance difference. Now granted that's for a high end build, but if you're trying to get really high end why not buy 2 670's and SLI them for 700$, rather than a single 680 for 500$?

And bare in mind that almost ALL of my accumulated knowledge(or more accurately memorized statistics) comes from reading hardware reviews on Guru3d.

But every time one of these buyer guides comes out I feel like they do a bad job on the low end segment. I feel like a lot of it could be more well thought out, especially if you actually consider the prices of various components across the board(which would seem to be the point of the article).

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Default 12-10-2012, 17:38 | posts: 3,402 | Location: Kansas

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This guide always seems so misguided... The mid end and high end PC's are pretty well thought out hardware wise, but the low end PC's are never smart buys at all.

It's perfectly possible to put a low end gaming PC together, even for a target of 1080p, that won't run you more than 300-400$.
You're absolutely wrong. You can put together a budget PC that is capable of playing some games at that price, but it won't be a gaming PC. Let's refer to our Far Cry 3 benchmarks: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages...nchmark,6.html. You certainly won't be able to crank up the graphics settings at 1080p with a Phenom II and a Radeon 6850.


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Default 12-10-2012, 17:44 | posts: 85 | Location: Upstate NY

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You're absolutely wrong. You can put together a budget PC that is capable of playing some games at that price, but it won't be a gaming PC. Let's refer to our Far Cry 3 benchmarks: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages...nchmark,6.html. You certainly won't be able to crank up the graphics settings at 1080p with a Phenom II and a Radeon 6850.
Dumb statement, I've already made it clear that I avidly read every article on this website.

Your opinion presupposes that any PC incapable of playing the newest game on the most modern graphics engine at maximum settings with 60 FPS doesn't qualify as a gaming PC.

My PC plays far cry 3 fairly well, but I can't play at max settings and still maintain smooth gameplay that is necessary for an FPS. Does that mean my system isn't a gaming machine?

A Phenom II with a 6850 will absolutely be able to play far cry 3 if you sacrifice some of the IQ settings. And that's the point of a budget gaming PC.

If you're ONLY advising parts based on what will allow you to play the most modern games with the highest settings possible then you are NOT explaining how to build a budget gaming PC, and you should just come out and say that. By the by, notice that the 7850 only pulls 17 FPS on that chart? 17 FPS is choppy and completely unplayable, so by your standards the 7850 build wouldn't qualify as a gaming PC either.
   
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Default 12-10-2012, 17:47 | posts: 3,402 | Location: Kansas

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And an SSD? There is no way that an SSD should be included in a budget PC build, for gaming or otherwise. While they're amazing performance wise, they are extremely expensive and offer practically no storage space. HDD's are the only viable option on a low budget. A 128GB SSD gives you enough room for an OS, a couple programs, and maybe 3 or 4 games before you've maxed it out.

Why not spend half the money on a 500GB HDD and have enough room for plenty of games and all the programs you'll ever need?
Clearly you haven't used an SSD. Really the speed difference (and reduced load times) and improved responsiveness of a computer running an SSD compared to a HDD is well worth the tradeoff. I understand some people like to have 100 games installed at one time, that's fine, go ahead and get the HDD if that's what really matters. But to everyone else I would go with the SSD.


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Default 12-10-2012, 17:55 | posts: 3,831 | Location: Sweden

highly recommend this site for monitor reviews and guidance

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/

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Default 12-10-2012, 17:56 | posts: 85 | Location: Upstate NY

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Clearly you haven't used an SSD. Really the speed difference (and reduced load times) and improved responsiveness of a computer running an SSD compared to a HDD is well worth the tradeoff. I understand some people like to have 100 games installed at one time, that's fine, go ahead and get the HDD if that's what really matters. But to everyone else I would go with the SSD.
I have a 250GB SSD in my desktop and a 120GB SSD in my laptop.

So for you a budget gaming PC needs to be able to pull unrealistic framerates in the most modern games, and it also needs to be able to boot into windows in 5 seconds flat?

Load times in games are very fast to begin with, with several exceptions, such as MMO's like WoW or SW:TOR. But once the game is loaded in memory everything is loading from your memory which far surpasses your SSD to begin with in terms of speed. For normal games or FPS's the benefit of an SSD is very small.
If you play WoW all time and want to put it on your SSD then sure, you'll notice a huge difference when you dont have to look at a loading screen anymore, but again, that's a luxury that you can't afford in a budget gaming build.

My SSD is my favorite component in my entire PC, but if I was building on a budget it wouldn't have made the list.

Your recommendation will give someone the option to have a handful of games installed and nothing else. What a stupid limitation to have in any PC, budget or otherwise.

If you recommend an SSD for a mid end or high end build it's fine because you supplement the SSD with a large HDD, as I do.
In a low end build it makes no sense whatsoever.

I noticed you also skirted over every other point I brought up.
A corsair H60 in a budget build, where you recommended 2 Ivy bridge CPU's with locked multipliers and no overclocking options, and therefore nonexistant heat issues? Sure, lets spend an extra 50$ for a cooler that we will never utilize.

It's because of guides like this that the myth of "gaming computers are too expensive" even exists.
   
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Default 12-10-2012, 18:08 | posts: 3,402 | Location: Kansas

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Dumb statement, I've already made it clear that I avidly read every article on this website.

Your opinion presupposes that any PC incapable of playing the newest game on the most modern graphics engine at maximum settings with 60 FPS doesn't qualify as a gaming PC.

My PC plays far cry 3 fairly well, but I can't play at max settings and still maintain smooth gameplay that is necessary for an FPS. Does that mean my system isn't a gaming machine?

A Phenom II with a 6850 will absolutely be able to play far cry 3 if you sacrifice some of the IQ settings. And that's the point of a budget gaming PC.

If you're ONLY advising parts based on what will allow you to play the most modern games with the highest settings possible then you are NOT explaining how to build a budget gaming PC, and you should just come out and say that. By the by, notice that the 7850 only pulls 17 FPS on that chart? 17 FPS is choppy and completely unplayable, so by your standards the 7850 build wouldn't qualify as a gaming PC either.
I do believe we have very different ideas of what a gaming machine is. You are looking to the absolute budget, what is the absolute lowest cost you can spend and still be able to play games (though some IQ compromises may have to be conceded)? It's a certainly valid way to approach the problem, I obviously am a bit different in my approach.

I view building a new gaming PC as an investment. I want the machine that's going to last the longest amount of time for the money I have paid. I want to do it without having to sacrifice IQ settings if at all possible. I don't want to find out in 6 months that my machine can't play the latest and greatest game I've been waiting for. This is why my guides target resolutions and not dollar values.

And no for 2560x1600 the 7850 wouldn't qualify for gaming for Far Cry 3 by my standards.


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