Gaming Rig Confirmation

Capcha · **Gaming Rig Confirmation -** 11-27-2012, 03:22 | posts: 9

Pill Monster · 11-27-2012, 03:45 | posts: 20,483 | Location: NZ

Swap the 680 for this or this or one of these.

XBEAST · 11-27-2012, 07:11 | posts: 1,444 | Location: Unknown

Since you're planning to overclock video card, this ^

Unless you really need Sabertooth, switch to something cheaper, like Z77 Extreme4 or Z77X-D3H/UD3H. Saves you 100$.

Agility 3 is slow and relatively unreliable. Get Samsung 830. Either 256GB or 128GB.

If RAM reliability is not very important, G.Skill will be fine. Otherwise go with Crucial, Samsung or Kingston.

Switch PSU to Seasonic X 650W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151088

SLI-756 · 11-27-2012, 07:17 | posts: 3,142 | Location: Sunny Scotland

Stick with the 680 and live the dream, borderlands 2 awaits, Slab.

Pill Monster · 11-27-2012, 08:09 | posts: 20,483 | Location: NZ

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Originally Posted by SLI-756

Stick with the 680 and live the dream, borderlands 2 awaits, Slab.

Which dream would that be....the one you're living in perhaps?

http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/

XBEAST · 11-27-2012, 08:15 | posts: 1,444 | Location: Unknown

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphic...d-HD-7970/GPU-

108% faster. Not that everyone cares about BL2...

SLI-756 · *Last edited by SLI-756; 11-27-2012 at 08:25.*

Minimum is what matters not maximum LOL.
solid 60 oh yeah, 33fps amd what?

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Originally Posted by Pill Monster

Which dream would that be....the one you're living in perhaps?

http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/

i'll throw another in, should a game be deserving.

Pill Monster · 11-27-2012, 08:27 | posts: 20,483 | Location: NZ

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Originally Posted by XBEAST

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphic...d-HD-7970/GPU-

108% faster. Not that everyone cares about BL2...

LOL that pcper benchmark was done nearly 2 months ago using ancient 12.8 drivers.

XBEAST · 11-27-2012, 08:30 | posts: 1,444 | Location: Unknown

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Originally Posted by Pill Monster

LOL that pcper benchmark was done nearly 2 months ago using ancient 12.8 drivers.

At least it was done using Maximum settings. That sort of settings anyone buying a high-end PC would want to play on.

sverek · *Last edited by sverek; 11-27-2012 at 08:35.*

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Originally Posted by XBEAST

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphic...d-HD-7970/GPU-

108% faster. Not that everyone cares about BL2...

Why the hell you bring High PhysX on the table? You do realize AMD doesn't support it?
What CPU was used for those graphs? CPU probably getting owned on MINs with PhysX there.

http://www.techspot.com/review/577-b...nce/page5.html

Pill Monster · 11-27-2012, 08:33 | posts: 20,483 | Location: NZ

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Originally Posted by XBEAST

At least it was done using Maximum settings. That sort of settings anyone buying a high-end PC would want to play on.

Read the rest of the article instead of just looking at the pictures.

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Obviously there is still a lot of testing to be done with Borderlands 2 as we plan to integrate in our GPU testing going forward. As we have done in the past, the chances are good that we will do so setting PhysX at the lowest possible setting - it annoys NVIDIA when we do that but it seems to be the most fair way to compare the performance of these varying GPUs.

The results are skewed anway;

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I did finally get an answer from Gearbox about the slow downs we were seeing on the AMD results. Apparently when larger collections of PhysX simulations are running on the CPU, those threads can take quite a bit longer than they would when running on the GPU. As a result, the CPU (and rest of the game engine code) becomes "blocked" waiting for a single thread to finish, which results in the lower CPU utilization we saw on the AMD results as well as the lower overall performance.

And I didn't drag you into anything. Nice edit...

SLI-756 · 11-27-2012, 08:45 | posts: 3,142 | Location: Sunny Scotland

tbh i thought fella was posting graph in support of amd saying only 110% difference or whatever the max framerate was, i disregarded the physx bias and overlooked the minimum, hence my at the very least misleading -not for citing the physx bias - comment.
but sure if physx didn't exist or we had 8GHz and beyond processors then i'm dual 7970 lightnings.

Justhavocman · 11-27-2012, 08:49 | posts: 98 | Location: Greece

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Originally Posted by Pill Monster

Which dream would that be....the one you're living in perhaps?

http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/

Live the dream of not having an AMD card making jet noises in your PC rig and turning it into a real furnace with its temps

Go for a GTX 670 mate , Asus directu cu ii has the same performance as the 680 with better cooling and noise levels + CHEAPER , cheers!

XBEAST · 11-27-2012, 08:56 | posts: 1,444 | Location: Unknown

I edited it to leave it for now...

Don't drag me into this. I don't give a single f*ck about BL2. If I did and wanted to play it maxed out though, GTX is the only way to go. Playing PhysX title without PhysX is no different than, for example, playing DX11 title without DX11 graphics features.

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Originally Posted by Justhavocman

Live the dream of not having an AMD card making jet noises in your PC rig and turning it into a real furnace with its temps

Noise and temps depend on cooling system. With proper non-reference cooler there won't be any noise/temperature problems.

Pill Monster · 11-27-2012, 08:58 | posts: 20,483 | Location: NZ

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Originally Posted by Justhavocman

Live the dream of not having an AMD card making jet noises in your PC rig and turning it into a real furnace with its temps

Go for a GTX 670 mate , Asus directu cu ii has the same performance as the 680 with better cooling and noise levels + CHEAPER , cheers!

Jet noise? Furnace? what are you on about....?

Sounds like you need to get a decent cooler, my card hits 60c max w/ fan at 30%...... and a 7950 is cheaper than even a 660Ti btw.

Pill Monster · 11-27-2012, 08:59 | posts: 20,483 | Location: NZ

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Originally Posted by XBEAST

I edited it to leave it for now...

Don't drag me into this. I don't give a single f*ck about BL2. If I did and wanted to play it maxed out though, GTX is the only way to go. Playing PhysX title without PhysX is no different than, for example, playing DX11 title without DX11 graphics features.

Agreed but it would be a bad investment just for one game....

SLI-756 · 11-27-2012, 09:03 | posts: 3,142 | Location: Sunny Scotland

Playing a dx11 title without any dx11 candy is like ..playing COD on pc.

XBEAST · 11-27-2012, 09:05 | posts: 1,444 | Location: Unknown

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Originally Posted by Pill Monster

Sounds like you need to get a decent cooler, my card hits 60c max w/ fan at 30%...... and a 7950 is cheaper than even a 660Ti btw.

Maybe where you live it is. At NewEgg cheapest HD 7950 is 10-15% more expensive than cheapest GTX 660 Ti. Same where I live.

Not that it matters though. OP said he is going to OC his card, so 7950/7970 is the way to go. Preferably 7950.

Pill Monster · 11-27-2012, 09:07 | posts: 20,483 | Location: NZ

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Originally Posted by XBEAST

Maybe where you live it is. At NewEgg cheapest HD 7950 is 10-15% more expensive than cheapest GTX 660 Ti. Same where I live.

Not that it matters. OP said he is going to OC his card, so 7950/7970 is the way to go. Preferably 7950.

Yeah...I don't understand why pricing varies from country to country....or Northern/Southern hemisphere.

This is how it looks in AU/NZ.....

alanm · 11-27-2012, 12:10 | posts: 4,976

Its been a topsy turvy year for GPUs. 6-8 months ago, the 670/680 were much better positioned vs 7950/7970, price-wise and performance-wise, hence a solid choice. AMD though have clawed their way back since, on pricing and performance. Better drivers, faster hardware (ghz and boost models) and all at a much lower price. At this point in time, AMD are on top, almost in no-brainer territory for those looking to buy.

Darkest · 11-27-2012, 14:34 | posts: 5,245

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Originally Posted by Pill Monster

Swap the 680 for this or this or one of these.

Agreed.

OP: Ignore the blather about Nvidia being superior. As a gamer, the only thing Nvidia has over AMD right now is PhysX. Something that's only available within a limited number of games, and is still enjoyable for most AMD users. I play with Medium PhysX just fine - and honestly I find its supposed greatness to be a little exaggerated even when it's on high with a 'capable' system.

Lane · *Last edited by Lane; 11-27-2012 at 15:11.*

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Originally Posted by XBEAST

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphic...d-HD-7970/GPU-

108% faster. Not that everyone cares about BL2...

Not faster, It use PhysX on the cpu and cause a thread stall as it is coded with feet ( when nvidia or developpers will understand, it is stupid to force the use of a cpu thread allready used for use by standard process and push the PhysX instructions on it, forcing the thread to wait it is free for do his normal work) .
And in the second case ( GTX680 ) it use Nvidia PhysX by the GPU...

Peoples buy what they think they need: If he play BL2 and think he need Nvidia PhysX, why not... if he play mostly BF3, Dirt, Hitman, FarCry3, Crysis2-3, or need computing stuff etc... different choice.. If he like better Nvidia or AMD he's choice.

Anyway: 2 things i will change in your list:

- Motherboard: the Sabertooth is a bit overpriced for features who are not specially needed ( not a bad board, but the thermal features dont look to be really effective, and are not really needed with last Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge ( who dont have the NB who is really hot as it was with the 1366 I7 9xx series ).

- PSU: 620W is a bit short, try have a 700-750W min for have a good margin ( PSU will be more silent as not in the high range, efficiency will be better, and like this if you upgrade component you will not end to short and need change it )

viren · 11-27-2012, 20:23 | posts: 2,326 | Location: Pune, India

Everything looks fine, you can go ahead and order the parts.

Loophole35 · 11-28-2012, 00:52 | posts: 1,665 | Location: FLA,USA

OP a few things to consider as posted before if you want to save a bit of coin dont go with teh sabertooth get something along the lines of a z77 extreme 4 or the asus p8z77v-pro, on the GPU side the 680 is a waste of money IMHO if you want to go green get a 670 DCUII or 670 WF3 same performance $100 less if you don't mind the red teem go with a 7970 like a Vapor-X or DCUII they tend to scale better when overclocked than the keplers anyways, and last but not least is there any specific reason you want the H100 because the minor overclock you are planing can easily be done with a hyper 212+ which is about $60 less.

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Originally Posted by SLI-756

Playing a dx11 title without any dx11 candy is like ..playing COD on pc.

This sir is truth unfiltered.

Capcha · 11-28-2012, 01:44 | posts: 9

Ok, so the general consensus is that I should go with a cheaper MB. As for the GPU, it seems that it's just an opinion thing and I should just get which ever one I like. And as for overclocking my CPU, I want to push it as high as possible without hurting or stressing it too much.

So the only thing now that I'd plan to change is the MB to a cheaper AS Rock.
Also I'll look into ram and SSDs for just a bit longer now and I might change them to the suggested models.

Is the 620W PSU enough, I originally thought it'd be plenty, but a few people say otherwise.

Is this all enough to run Minecraft though? JK. I'm hoping this will last me a minimum of 5 years though and still be able to run the latest titles well up t'ill then.

Can't say I did't expect a GPU battle. I've no real preference to either one, the NVIDIA just seems right for me

Thank you all for the help!

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