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Question Looking for an alternative to iphone - 11-25-2012, 09:58 | posts: 304 | Location: London UK

Hi,

I currently have and iphone 4 that has given me quite a few problems over the 24 month contract that I have been on. Im due an upgrade 1 month early in 2 weeks and Im wanting to move away from apple iphones for a change.

Ive been looking at what my options are and ive boiled it down to.

Sony Xperia T
Samsung Galaxy SIII
Nokia Lumina 820
HTC 8X

I like the look of all of them but just cannot decide.


I use my iphone for work picking up jobs via exchange emails and I use the camera alot, listen to music while im working or on my way to work, I will occasionally watch videos on my iphone. I don't really game on my phone I have a desktop for that.

What im after is something as tough as an iphone that's going to take a battering and not get damaged. good software to manage my music collection (looking forward to uninstalling itunes ) good camera. and supports exchange emails with push notification. 4g compatible would be nice but im waiting for my carrier to roll that out thanks to EE exclusivity here in the UK decent battery life that would at least last me a full 9 hour day at work without having to recharge.

over to you GURU's let me know which you think best suits my needs.


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Default 11-25-2012, 10:07 | posts: 4,033 | Location: Australia

The Samsung Galaxy SIII comes in 2 different versions, one that has 4G (Samsung SIII 4G), and one that hasn't (normal Samsung SIII). The one that has 4G is actually a newer updated version of the SIII, a SIII.5 if you like!

So, I guess you have 5 phones to choose from, not 4!

It is a difficult choice, because all the phones you listed are good phones.
   
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Default 11-25-2012, 10:14 | posts: 304 | Location: London UK

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The Samsung Galaxy SIII comes in 2 different versions, one that has 4G (Samsung SIII 4G), and one that hasn't (normal Samsung SIII). The one that has 4G is actually a newer updated version of the SIII, a SIII.5 if you like!

So, I guess you have 5 phones to choose from, not 4!

It is a difficult choice, because all the phones you listed are good phones.
I think my carrier is only stocking the SIII atm its probably going to stock it when the 4g network rolls out so thats in 6 months when EE exclusivity runs out

what software does the android OS use to sync /convert music is it any good?
   
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Default 11-25-2012, 10:28 | posts: 10,165 | Location: Dundee, Scotland

It doesn't really use any, you just drag and drop files on.

You can use windows media player if you like, pretty sure itunes works as well, samsung have an application on their website you can use if you want (for the S3), it's not that great, wouldn't bother.
   
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Default 11-25-2012, 10:51 | posts: 304 | Location: London UK

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It doesn't really use any, you just drag and drop files on.

You can use windows media player if you like, pretty sure itunes works as well, samsung have an application on their website you can use if you want (for the S3), it's not that great, wouldn't bother.
what about CDDB and artwork for CD tracks ?

sorry if that's noobish im used to itunes and iOS using gracenote for CDDB.

If I go with a windows phone would I be able to use windows media center to sync/convert and do CDDB lookups ?
   
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Default 11-25-2012, 12:33 | posts: 4,826 | Location: Land of the Great Downunder

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The Samsung Galaxy SIII comes in 2 different versions, one that has 4G (Samsung SIII 4G), and one that hasn't (normal Samsung SIII). The one that has 4G is actually a newer updated version of the SIII, a SIII.5 if you like!

So, I guess you have 5 phones to choose from, not 4!

It is a difficult choice, because all the phones you listed are good phones.
3 major versions actually.

theres the S3 international model which uses the exynos 4412 chip (quad core a9 with overclocked mali400), but only hsdpa support. this model only has 1gb ram.

theres the US model which uses the snapdragon s4 dual core but has 4g support iirc. this model has 2gb ram.

and now theres the newer i9305 S3 4G which uses an exynos 4412 (quad core a9 with overclocked mali400) and has an extra qualcomm 4g/lte modem inside as well as 2gb ram. now if ive been reading correctly, this model comes with jelly bean out of the box.

so if buying a galaxy s3 with 4g, make sure you order the right one, or you may end up with the slower snapdragon instead of the faster exynos.
   
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Default 11-25-2012, 13:25 | posts: 9,869 | Location: Yorkshire [UK]

Android uses copy and paste for music...

I'd just stick with itunes because there's plugins to sync it with itunes anyway.

The i9305 is only out on one network in the UK, don't think you can buy it handset only or PayG.
   
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Default 11-25-2012, 15:33 | posts: 290 | Location: Odessa

I'd go for Sony
   
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Default 11-25-2012, 15:52 | posts: 16,594 | Location: US East Coast

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what about CDDB and artwork for CD tracks ?

sorry if that's noobish im used to itunes and iOS using gracenote for CDDB.

If I go with a windows phone would I be able to use windows media center to sync/convert and do CDDB lookups ?
Windows Phone uses the Zune Media Player software...which is garbage.

If you go with a Windows Phone device, make sure it's Windows Phone 8. No reason to buy a WP7 device if you can avoid it.


   
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Default 11-25-2012, 17:41 | posts: 19,054 | Location: Toronto, Canada

I'd go with the Samsung Galaxy S III, Samsung Galaxy Note II or Google Nexus 4. All three phones are great.

As for the Xperia T, I've heard that it isn't anything interesting based on what I've been reading....

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Default 11-25-2012, 19:24 | posts: 304 | Location: London UK

My only concern with the Galaxy SIII is it looks a little flimsy/plastic and I fear it may break or crack in my pocket, I spend alot of time leaning over desks fixing PC's and my iPhone is kept in my front pocket, there have been a few times ive leaned over a desk and thought I had cracked my phone by hitting it on the side of a desk but it hasn't even got 1 mark on it after 24 months. the SIII may fail me here unless it is actually quite sturdier than it looks. the note is too big its more of an ipad mini size/tablet. too me anyway.

Of course I'm not going to decide until I go into the shop and have one in my hand to see how they feel. but I am tempted by the Sony Xperia T or the Nokia Lumina 820 (free wireless charging plate). It make sense to have a windows phone to match my windows PC. I've got no experience with android OS and ive got no plans to root the OS either. Didn't bother Jail-breaking my iPhone just didn't see a need. The Nokia looks the sturdiest phone of them all. Last time I had a Nokia it was a 5300 with plain LCD screen I remember the buzz about it being the first phone with the antenna inside the phone.

All that is important to me with a phone is Calls, texts, emails, browsing, music, occasional vids, good set of apps, photos, video recording. I don't use social networks. and good sound for my Sennheiser h/phones.
   
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Default 11-25-2012, 20:14 | posts: 19,054 | Location: Toronto, Canada

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My only concern with the Galaxy SIII is it looks a little flimsy/plastic and I fear it may break or crack in my pocket, I spend alot of time leaning over desks fixing PC's and my iPhone is kept in my front pocket, there have been a few times ive leaned over a desk and thought I had cracked my phone by hitting it on the side of a desk but it hasn't even got 1 mark on it after 24 months. the SIII may fail me here unless it is actually quite sturdier than it looks. the note is too big its more of an ipad mini size/tablet. too me anyway.

Of course I'm not going to decide until I go into the shop and have one in my hand to see how they feel. but I am tempted by the Sony Xperia T or the Nokia Lumina 820 (free wireless charging plate). It make sense to have a windows phone to match my windows PC. I've got no experience with android OS and ive got no plans to root the OS either. Didn't bother Jail-breaking my iPhone just didn't see a need. The Nokia looks the sturdiest phone of them all. Last time I had a Nokia it was a 5300 with plain LCD screen I remember the buzz about it being the first phone with the antenna inside the phone.

All that is important to me with a phone is Calls, texts, emails, browsing, music, occasional vids, good set of apps, photos, video recording. I don't use social networks. and good sound for my Sennheiser h/phones.
I've probably only owned phones that are made of plastic even with my Nexus S and never once had any concern about my phone breaking other than cracking the glass when crawling under desk spaces or tight spaces when repairing cables and other computer-related items. The Galaxy S III is as sturdy as my Nexus S.

If you're really concerned about the safety of your device, a hard case never hurts.

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Default 11-25-2012, 21:47 | posts: 10,165 | Location: Dundee, Scotland

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what about CDDB and artwork for CD tracks ?

sorry if that's noobish im used to itunes and iOS using gracenote for CDDB.

If I go with a windows phone would I be able to use windows media center to sync/convert and do CDDB lookups ?
All the music i've ever bought digitally had the artwork embedded and proper artist tags into the mp3 files. If not, do it yourself with mp3tag, an excellent program, which can look up and embed this stuff with a couple clicks.
   
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Default 11-25-2012, 22:29 | posts: 252 | Location: Iran

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The Samsung Galaxy SIII comes in 2 different versions, one that has 4G (Samsung SIII 4G), and one that hasn't (normal Samsung SIII). The one that has 4G is actually a newer updated version of the SIII, a SIII.5 if you like!

So, I guess you have 5 phones to choose from, not 4!

It is a difficult choice, because all the phones you listed are good phones.
well if 4g is not a must i must say that the normal S3 is better because it use Exynos 4112 as SOC while the 4G VERSION USE Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 MSM8960 Which is a little faster on the core front (exynos 4112 is 10-20% faster than other quad core Arm9 and a dual cor krait is roughly equal to a quad core Arm 9) but a lot faster on GPU front as Mali 400mp4 in Exynos 4112 is far better than Adreno 225 in MSM8960
on other hand you get 2 gig of Ram with 4g phone while the international one only give you 1 gb of ram
   
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well if 4g is not a must i must say that the normal S3 is better because it use Exynos 4112 as SOC while the 4G VERSION USE Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 MSM8960 Which is a little faster on the core front (exynos 4112 is 10-20% faster than other quad core Arm9 and a dual cor krait is roughly equal to a quad core Arm 9) but a lot faster on GPU front as Mali 400mp4 in Exynos 4112 is far better than Adreno 225 in MSM8960
on other hand you get 2 gig of Ram with 4g phone while the international one only give you 1 gb of ram
The international 4G LTE Galaxy S3 is a quad core and 2GB ram...
   
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I didn't know of the US version, here we have the proper 4G version
   
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Default 11-26-2012, 00:17 | posts: 10,984 | Location: Finland

With WP8 Windows sees it as mass storage where you can just drag and drop stuff like music. No need for zune or anything like that. That's the case at least in windows 8. I've tagged my music properly and all my WMA lossless, AAC (m4a) and MP3 tracks use the embedded album art and tags work great.

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I would give a look toward the lg optimus g.. I just got mine a couple weeks now and its an awesome phone, bettet than s3 imo
   
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I would give a look toward the lg optimus g.. I just got mine a couple weeks now and its an awesome phone, bettet than s3 imo
It's the krait quad core processor, it's a killer, fast as hell.

I'd go for LG Optimus G or Galaxy SIII, period...
   
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I would get Nexus 4 without contract, then get a sim card for 10/15 pounds a month with unlimited data. I am doing it after Christmas.
   
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Default 11-26-2012, 13:12 | posts: 304 | Location: London UK

Thank you all for your advice,

unfortunatley the LG optimus is not with my carrier, I really don't like the look of the nexus 4. and the SIII in non 4g and 4g variants is a headache,

So with that said the Nokia Lumina 820 with 4g ready and support for exchange push notification looks like the new pohne for me, but I will wait until im in the local shop and have it in my hand to confirm. a close second was going to be the Sony Xperia T. but again the deicision will be made in 2 weeks when Im due the free upgrade.


thanks for you help GURU's

   
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Default 11-26-2012, 13:44 | posts: 10,165 | Location: Dundee, Scotland

4G really matters that much? The coverage in the UK is pretty terrible as is.

Much lower resolution on the nokia 820 compared to the s3, and as far as the million 4g varieties of the S3, in the UK you only need to concern yourself with the international one, the GT-I9305 (the only other one you might get in the UK is the GT-I9300, the non 4G version)
   
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Default 11-26-2012, 13:46 | posts: 282 | Location: Hungary

I bought Xperia P one week ago. All i can say its the best phone i've ever had.
So so so many customization in android, i simly love it. And the phone is fast as lightning. (using Go! theme, locker, Go! everything now)

I can suggest u Sony.
   
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Default 11-26-2012, 14:55 | posts: 571 | Location: UK

Ive just ordered my SGS3 i9305 and I cant wait, im hoping there is an option in it to turn off the 4G radio to save battery as im only on T-mobile but either way itll be a nice phone, especially for 39 quid (36 p/m 24 month) where the iphone 5 was 109 quid. iphone is still a lovely phone but lacking in some ways and nearly three times the price! Whilst ive no current plans to use the 4G in any phone its a 'nice to have' if ever I do.

I was a bit tempted by windows 8 phones but the app store is still a bit lacking at the moment and ill wait and see how it matures in 2 years when I can upgrade again.
   
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I bought Xperia P one week ago. All i can say its the best phone i've ever had.
So so so many customization in android, i simly love it. And the phone is fast as lightning. (using Go! theme, locker, Go! everything now)

I can suggest u Sony.
My brother bought one and has the same feedback, except that the battery is the best he's seen in a smartphone for his moderate uses.
   
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