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Default AMD to cut thousands of jobs - 10-13-2012, 12:35 | posts: 21,323 | Location: Guru3D testlab

Advanced Micro Devices will very likely cut 2340 jobs which is about about 20 percent of the workforce.

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Default 10-13-2012, 12:52 | posts: 6,889 | Location: Dubai

It's the management that needs to go.
   
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Default 10-13-2012, 12:59 | posts: 715 | Location: uk

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It's the management that needs to go.
but then who would run the company ?


that's what all management think! ive rarely seen a good management team, they are a very scarce thing.
   
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Default 10-13-2012, 13:08 | posts: 2,865 | Location: The Freak Show - Earth.

The thing is, if AMD goes out of business then Nvidia will end up fully dominating the market which means, higher prices, and no one that can offer and alternative.

AMD need all the help they can get. They offer low price competing hardware - and their drivers are becoming rather good.

I think my next upgrade will be all AMD besides the CPU; unless (and that's a BIG unless) AMD can bring out a good CPU in the immediate future.

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Default 10-13-2012, 13:08 | posts: 68

I'm not an AMD fan, but I respect them as a company, alternative and competitor. This is sad news, because the company is dying and good people are losing their jobs. I hope they get back on their feet soon.
   
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Default 10-13-2012, 13:27 | posts: 5,590

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The thing is, if AMD goes out of business then Nvidia will end up fully dominating the market which means, higher prices, and no one that can offer and alternative.
Not necessarily. When companies "die" they usually get broken up and sold. Hopefully AMDs GPU business would look enticing for the likes of Intel. Dont know who would be interested in their CPU business since its a tough one manage competitively.
   
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Default 10-13-2012, 13:37 | posts: 2,865 | Location: The Freak Show - Earth.

That's if Intel takes them on. They stand a better chance while obtaining the 'monopoly and monetary status' they currently have. If they get to broken up it doesn't leave much of a leg to stand on.

Sounds like they need better higher management.
   
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Default 10-13-2012, 13:44 | posts: 6,889 | Location: Dubai

They might just end up getting more funds from Abu Dhabi. Meh, lazy management.
   
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Default 10-13-2012, 14:12 | posts: 958 | Location: JerZe

im not seeing amd is successful at all why are they cutting jobs? they not selling and making enough profit? even though their hardware are cheap? maybe becuase intel is just better. Intel maybe a lil expensive but its worth the price. how come intel is not laying people off work even though their hardware is more expensive? simple answer Intel is just better than amd. it maybe expensive but a lot of people like more performance and overclockablity versus cheap and low performing cpu's like amd lol
   
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Default 10-13-2012, 14:30 | posts: 5

They need nothing more guy's, they need our support.
I don't wanna see again intel-nvidia monopoly like the old times, even if amd products are (and gettind) worse
   
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Default 10-13-2012, 15:01 | posts: 5,674 | Location: PA, USA

IMHO this mess came about when people started to treat GPU Brands as Football Teams.

Instead of going for best bank for buck without gimmicks, people just buy a card because it has a certain name on it.

I know people will argue this because they have nothing better to do, but it's my opinion and it will stand no matter what you say. It's something I have noticed in many forums over the years.

I may not post in those other forums myself, but I read through them.
   
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Default 10-13-2012, 16:37 | posts: 18,719 | Location: New Jersey, USA

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They need nothing more guy's, they need our support.
I don't wanna see again intel-nvidia monopoly like the old times, even if amd products are (and gettind) worse
amd cpu`s had my support years ago, I go where the performance is, as far as cpu`s go they do not deserve my hard earned money
   
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Default 10-13-2012, 16:42 | posts: 73

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amd cpu`s had my support years ago, I go where the performance is, as far as cpu`s go they do not deserve my hard earned money
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Default 10-13-2012, 16:51 | posts: 24,243 | Location: NZ

Shame...
   
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Default 10-13-2012, 17:01 | posts: 332

Maybe AMD should just quit producing CPU's and Focus on GPU's Intel Vs Amd is not a war amd could win. While Nvidia vs AMD is a chance.
   
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Default 10-13-2012, 17:39 | posts: 6,440 | Location: Chilling

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Maybe AMD should just quit producing CPU's and Focus on GPU's Intel Vs Amd is not a war amd could win. While Nvidia vs AMD is a chance.
Except for the fact there is no money in enthusiast GPU's for the most part. The real money comes from the Tesla/Firepro and integrated GPU's/CPU's (Trinity, Tegra, etc.). Enthusiast GPU's aren't that hard to make so they are an easy high-margin money source, limited as they may be.

Not to mention that the desktop PC is a dead end at this point going forward, no need to be in denial about that. Your smartphone nearly has the power of a high end desktop PC from 5-6 years ago, the new Windows 8 tablets/ultrabooks will have 99% of the power of a PC (the power that actually counts to 99% of users) and be able to do 99% of the tasks any desktop can do while remaining ultra portable.

This desktop PC to my left is probably the last one I'll ever end up building for myself. Intel has seen the writing on the wall for a long time already, hence Haswell. Nvidia are no different, hence their focus on Tegra (which is a real money maker for them, especially with CUDA).

AMD are also starting to get onboard finally, they just need an architecture that can keep up. As one person succinctly put it, "The took a Server focused architecture and put it in a Laptop... brilliant!".

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Default 10-13-2012, 17:55 | posts: 1,420 | Location: Japan, Soka

AMD is focusing on APU, so I won't expect amd beating intel anytime soon.
APUs are great for middle level destop PC and high-middle end laptops.

I guess AMD really need to find or create constant need for APUs, like pcs in office running on Trinity APU, instead of iCore3... or laptops with APU is like tripple win (cpu + gpu + low energy usage for it) and I'd find that reasonable.
   
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Default 10-13-2012, 17:58 | posts: 3,508 | Location: USA

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Advanced Micro Devices will very likely cut 2340 jobs which is about about 20 percent of the workforce.

AMD to cut thousands of jobs
Amd is on a roll, If they keep this up there might not be any workforce that actual makes there cpu,gpu that makes there money or lack there of it as of late.

If they go belly up it would be very bad for everyone
   
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I had no idea the PC market was shrinking....
   
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They need nothing more guy's, they need our support.
I don't wanna see again intel-nvidia monopoly like the old times, even if amd products are (and gettind) worse
AMD products aren't getting worse.... AMD has shifted focus from "high-end" processors to budget/mainstream processors. Of course they're of little interest to enthusiasts....but they provide value to those just looking for a cheap, capable computer for web browsing, e-mail, word processing and multimedia.


   
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Except for the fact there is no money in enthusiast GPU's for the most part. The real money comes from the Tesla/Firepro and integrated GPU's/CPU's (Trinity, Tegra, etc.). Enthusiast GPU's aren't that hard to make so they are an easy high-margin money source, limited as they may be.

Not to mention that the desktop PC is a dead end at this point going forward, no need to be in denial about that. Your smartphone nearly has the power of a high end desktop PC from 5-6 years ago, the new Windows 8 tablets/ultrabooks will have 99% of the power of a PC (the power that actually counts to 99% of users) and be able to do 99% of the tasks any desktop can do while remaining ultra portable.

This desktop PC to my left is probably the last one I'll ever end up building for myself. Intel has seen the writing on the wall for a long time already, hence Haswell. Nvidia are no different, hence their focus on Tegra (which is a real money maker for them, especially with CUDA).

AMD are also starting to get onboard finally, they just need an architecture that can keep up. As one person succinctly put it, "The took a Server focused architecture and put it in a Laptop... brilliant!".
I dont buy that argument one bit, And I never will Yes phone have grown in power, and cause of that there battery life is pure trash, I dont buy them for anything other then to be cell phone, In terms of raw power they are not they same and will never be unless they come up with some huge break threw on batteries. Desktops are going no where
   
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Default 10-13-2012, 18:07 | posts: 24,243 | Location: NZ

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Except for the fact there is no money in enthusiast GPU's for the most part. The real money comes from the Tesla/Firepro and integrated GPU's/CPU's (Trinity, Tegra, etc.). Enthusiast GPU's aren't that hard to make so they are an easy high-margin money source, limited as they may be.

Not to mention that the desktop PC is a dead end at this point going forward, no need to be in denial about that. Your smartphone nearly has the power of a high end desktop PC from 5-6 years ago, the new Windows 8 tablets/ultrabooks will have 99% of the power of a PC (the power that actually counts to 99% of users) and be able to do 99% of the tasks any desktop can do while remaining ultra portable.

This desktop PC to my left is probably the last one I'll ever end up building for myself. Intel has seen the writing on the wall for a long time already, hence Haswell. Nvidia are no different, hence their focus on Tegra (which is a real money maker for them, especially with CUDA).

I don't think desktops will die out, there will always be a market for them.
Gamers/HTPC users/office workers...whatever.

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Default 10-13-2012, 18:17 | posts: 6,440 | Location: Chilling

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I dont buy that argument one bit, And I never will Yes phone have grown in power, and cause of that there battery life is pure trash, I dont buy them for anything other then to be cell phone, In terms of raw power they are not they same and will never be unless they come up with some huge break threw on batteries. Desktops are going no where
Are you kidding?

Let's take laptops for a second:
Ultrabooks:


That's right, the average is 6.6 hours of straight internet browsing at the same processing power that you see on an average desktop (you know, the kind that most people buy from Dell).

Now let's take powerhouse laptops (that can play games on high graphics) for example:


That's 4.6 hours of straight internet browsing.

So don't kid us about raw power being the limiting factor, because if you want "RAW POWER!!!" then you can plug in any of those laptops and play most games at a high level of detail and still push great FPS:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6351/t...hly-reviewed/6

And just look at how long the iPhone 5 with its extremely high performing CPU can last, now just wait till Haswell and Cover Trail come along.
   
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Default 10-13-2012, 18:26 | posts: 6,440 | Location: Chilling

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I don't think desktops will die out, there will always be a market for them.
Gamers/HTPC users/office workers...whatever.
HTPC builders (i.e.- those using desktop components) are the niche of the niche market. And with the likes of Google TV, Apple TV, set top boxes and cheap Android units like the Mk808, this market has shrunk even further.

Offices are all buying laptops these days, everyone I know that works at any major company told me that when their company are buying new equipment, they all get laptops, and sometimes in addition tablets. It's just that more efficient.

All you have left are gamers, of which most are on consoles and mobile gaming. Desktop gaming is only a few tens of millions, and most don't use top end hardware to begin with. Just look at the Steam survey results, the top percentage of users just use the HD3000 iGPU:

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
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Intel HD Graphics 3000 4.07%
Now look at how many people have an enthusiast class GPU:
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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 0.63%
Not even 2/3 of a percent.

And look at the CPU results:
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3.3 Ghz to 3.69 Ghz 9.57%
3.7 Ghz and above 0.43%
So don't kid yourself that most people buy themselves "gaming systems", most just use whatever system they have on hand.
   
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who cares how long you can browse on a gaming laptop? the question should be how long you can game on them not plugged into the wall
   
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